And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.
Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.
Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.
A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.
Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.
This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.
Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:
I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .
Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …
I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …
In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.
I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.
With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.
TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.
Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”
Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”
Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:
Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.
And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:
Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.
Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.
Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.
This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.
I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.
This is what MRA “activism” looks like.
Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.
katz, You could create yet another fake WordPress blog. 😀
“When SRSsucks is literally titled “SRS Sucks”, and the subreddit is explicitely devoted to hating on another sub.”
So? Like I said, it doesn’t make one a hate group to hate on an organization. This blog is devoted to bashing MRAs, but of course the Manboobz writers aren’t a hate group.
“SRSsucks is a lens: that lens is that SRS sucks.”
Well, yes, of course the community is biased… but they also link to direct screenshots and quotes, which I have read for myself (see the link I posted). And they are 100% correct about SRS.
MRA meetings are not (yet) against the Canadian Seditious and Hate Speech law. That’s because they’re careful to not ever come out and advocate violence directly, instead using euphemism’s like Paul Elam’s “fuck their shit up” comment so as to keep plausible deniability.
@Fade, those are things that SRS thinks. Frankly, it’s the logical conclusion of their positions.
Clint: You posting a link is no less affected by your being a proven libelous, lying, shit-spewing weasel-fucker than anything else you care to post at this point. Good Day.
Kill Whitey, PEM. Kill… Whitey.
…but…because SRS posts bad things jerks on reddit says it is a hate group? You’ve got to be kinda agile from all the mental gymnastics you must be doing to make this work in your head.
Better than hateception: Nyancatception!
“What do you think about the noble MRAs who want baby girls’ voiceboxes removed?”
Do you have a link to this? Until then, you’re full of it.
If you weren’t a misogynist, you’d feel plenty welcome on SRS, I’m sure. And whether to be a misogynist or not is COMPLETELY within your control. All you have to do is stop spouting MRM talking points about the evils of feminism.
You’re like a broken record here. Let’s grant your stupid false equivalency, just for the sake of argument. How the MRM isn’t a hate group for hating feminism, but SRS -is- a hate group for hating the MRM?
Is it ONLY because feminism is bad and MRM is good? If you had any self-awareness, you you would admit that you’re being a disingenuous asshole.
Citation needed
If we end up needing a default way to respond to not pro equality I nominate this one.
freemage how am I libelous? Because you don’t like what I say, it’s not true?
Taxi….taxi?
And … a group is different from an organization, which is why you can have hate groups but no hate organizations.
I think I need more wine.
@PEMRA:
Yeah, the post that I just wrote was an attempt to show you that they are not, in fact, correct about SRS. Like… Everything after what you quoted from me was dedicated to that effort. Did you just gloss over it? Do you think its wrong? Why? Examples!
… which is why it was on YOUR buddies blog.
Can you even read for comprehension, or is everything one huge confirmation bias for you?
That is not implying it is a natural extension of SRS’s form. It is implying that a) sluts and teases are things that exist outsite misogynistic stereotypes when they don’t. and b) if a woman fucked lots of people she’s a slut. and c) if a woman gave a man (on accident or on purpose) the impression she wanted to sleep with him she is obligated to follow up on that to avoid being a tease.
Now read for comprehension or gtfo
“It’s the logical conclusion of their positions” is the new “I have no proof of anything I say but I’m going to say it anyway.”
It’s the logical conclusion that mr Pro equality is both full of shit and not actually pro equality?
Though that ones probably true…
/sleepy, hope I made sense.
Nah, but maybe I’ll put a post on Anti-Anti-Manboobz.
@katz, Good — reduce, reuse, recycle fake blogs; it’s good for the environment.
My favorite phrase of the day. So mellifluous.
… pro-misogyny is totally full of shit. and he can read, because he can post, but he is really not utilizing his abilities. Kind of just skimming the words and then reading “EVERYONE HATES STRAIGHT MEN” into it.
clint just really, really wants to justify the abuse redhead got. he’s not gonna give in on that one. logical inconsistency aside, he’s just another rape (or in this case, rape threat) apologist. and that’s the whole story. if anyone’s ever been raped by an abuser, i think that this brand of “logic” might ring familiar.
and yes, attention trolls/MRAs — if any of you can point to an MRA/MRM-identified individual or movement reaching out to the man who was recently sexually assaulted (I haven’t looked into the details, I see enough assault as it is) by women and ridiculed on social media, my jaw will drop.
i’m sad. this week is sad. boston is sad. kittens won’t really help. a woman just avoided rape by the skin of her teeth on the subway system in the city where i was attached on the subway. i want to take a break from manboobz because i want to take a break from the triggers of … being a woman … but i can’t take a break from those, and manboobz, honestly, makes me feel better and more empowered and supported than any other group.
i’m going to sleep. good night moon.
He thinks SRS positions are wrong. It’s wrong to think underage sex is bad, fat shame is bad, using the “n” word is bad…but rape should be apologized for. I’m thinking he’s gone off the reservation, people. He’s offended that this kind of hateful speech is mocked. He’s a lost cause. There’s nothing left to say.
David, I think it’s time someone was banned.
LOL, I know. There’s my problem right there.
This whole thread has served as an excellent example of how MRA’s derail any discussion of the oppression of women and recenter the topic to be about whiny jerks’ pet projects.
“Oh, a woman is getting rape and death threats? Well, what about paper abortions? It’s not fair that I can’t run around and impregnate women or other people with uteruses, and then head for the hills if the child needs food or school books.”
“Women are afraid to speak online or in public due to harassment from Internet mobs at 4chan or youtube? Well, there aren’t that many men working in daycares or nursing homes. Who cares that men don’t want those jobs, because of the low pay and hard work. Who cares that women take those jobs because they’re so often shut out of higher paying jobs. This totally proves misandry is the real problem!”
and then the classic “I don’t condone the threats, but I think she totally deserves them for being an uppity woman that doesn’t know her place”.
What a crock.