And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.
Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.
Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.
A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.
Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.
This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.
Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:
I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .
Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …
I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …
In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.
I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.
With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.
TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.
Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”
Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”
Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:
Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.
And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:
Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.
Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.
Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.
This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.
I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.
This is what MRA “activism” looks like.
Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.
“Well, PEM, you argue like a petulant, not bright child.”
No, I don’t. I argue from facts, and I stick to the facts. You want to handwave away the facts in question (that is, SRS fits the definition of a hate group) because they make you uncomfortable.
ergo, they are one, because…uh, guys I”m kinda pulling this out of my ass, halp! My ass counts as a source, right /channeling not pro equality.
citation still needed. Where have they said single mothers should be kept in whorehouses? Where have they said female babies should have their voice boxes removed? Where have they done anything hateful, besides apparently quoting people.
Wow. That site sounds weird
haha.
no.
SRS Is a hate group because they protest the hateful things misogynists say in a not-so-nice way that I am incorrectly misconstruing as hateful and hostile. AND THAT IS UNDENIABLE
Remember people if you hate a hate group that makes you a hate group.
This message has been brought to you by the Society for Nurturing and Coddling Hate Groups or Else They Get to Threaten to Rape and Kill You With Impunity.
SRS is hilarious. It looks like /b/, if /b/ suddenly became funny and dropped regressive politics and decided to be Good instead.
Clint, you’re a proven libelous lying shit-spewing weasel-fucker, so anything else you say is irrelevant. Good day.
@PEMRA:
They don’t, and they are not. They do not advocate violence. I honestly dare you to read the site rather than look through the lens of SRSsucks. You know what else is common? New users who have heard the mythos and the crap about SRS, have come to the site to double check, and have ended up finding a great community that they want to be a part of.
And yes, they are in fact a majority SWASCM (or a large proportion). They did a survey recently (end of last year, maybe), I just couldn’t find it to link to.
@kittehs
Have other people posted this before today, or is my brain acting up? ::should sleep::
I can’t give any more credence to PEMs horseshit. Have fun with the chew toy, good night!
nite hellkell!
Great Ceiling Cat, I’m glad I spent lunchtime making pics instead of reading the trolls here. Between disingenuous and fucking moronic they’re a real shit cocktail.
G’night hellkell!
I should follow your example….
If it is extremely important to you to find some way to make a woman responsible for the harassment and threats she is attacked with, you need to reevaluate your priorities.
And I’m 23 years old, thank you.
Marie, Freemage (I think) came up with that phrase and yes, it’s been used a few times already. Your brain is functioning, fear not! 😀
Marie: I’m advocating that this is the only way we should respond to Clint, because he has been shown, in fact, that he is a libelous, lying, shit-spewing weasel-fucker. At that point, it’s obvious further discussion has no possible validity, so we may as well just uniformly C&Ping that post until he goes away or David bans him.
Night hellkell. I promise to bat around a troll in your absence, assuming they stick around
I’m watching the IT Crowd and drinking a nice pinot so my typing may suffer though.
@kittehs
thanks 🙂 just checking.
@freemage
ah. I guess I’ll use it if I bother to respond to him again…and I remember.
“They do not advocate violence.”
This is not a requirement for a hate group.
“I honestly dare you to read the site rather than look through the lens of SRSsucks.”
SRSsucks isn’t a “lens”… they provide direct quotes and screenshots. I’ve read for myself. I don’t wish to be a part of a hate group.
The idea that SRS is a ‘hate group’ is frankly HILARIOUS. SRSsucks sounds like a bunch of people who got their delicate fee-fees hurt when someone on SRS highlighted what privileged asshole they were being.
Your image consisted ENTIRELY of a bunch of ‘gotcha’ comments devoid of any context that didn’t even look particularly ‘hateful’ to me. It’s just people who are refusing to criticize privileged assholes in a ‘nice’ way, and instead just being blunt about it.
Guess what, if you say something misogynist, some people are going to call you a misogynist creep, no matter how much you whine about how it’s not FAAAAIIR because you’re really ‘pro-equality’ (even though you believe that Redhead deserves the rape and death threats because she was part of a protest against your favored cause).
… if you are an MRA you are part of a hate group
Fuck off, pemra, you’re a boring little twerp talking out of your arse. Go back to your MRM sandpit.
Words have meanings, bub, and while you may think most people think of hate group as a group that hates, it does tend to involve inciting voilence against people.
That sums up my feelings perfectly. QFT
I don’t consider what she did to be harassment, though. She was protesting misogyny at the college. She was exercising her right to free speech.
And according to some of the other posters here, the MRA meeting was against Canadian hate speech laws in the first place. Sorry if I’m getting this wrong. Things are way different in the US, where the WBC can use the first amendment as an excuse to torment grieving families. But even here, we fight back and protest against hate speech. Like in 2011, some bikers and truckers gently persuaded the WBC to stay the fuck out of Joplin*. I don’t know what they told them and I don’t want to know. But it shows that having the right to free speech doesn’t mean everyone else has to meekly sit there and take it when someone’s spewing out hateful garbage.
So my point is that even if the MRA stuff is protected speech in Canada (which is doubtful), that other people also have the right to protest it, and that is not harassment.
*They did come back in 2012, but this time we just blocked them out and tried to avoid giving them too much attention.