And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.
Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.
Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.
A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.
Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.
This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.
Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:
I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .
Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …
I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …
In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.
I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.
With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.
TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.
Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”
Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”
Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:
Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.
And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:
Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.
Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.
Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.
This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.
I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.
This is what MRA “activism” looks like.
Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.
@Pro-Equality MRA:
You kinda cut out a middle section there, where I explain that they intend to dish out to SWASCMs what other people receive, intending to break down the privilage SWASCMs get of never having their entire gender or race judged by the actions of some, etc.
But yeah. They pretend. A large portion of their community is SWASCM, I doubt that they all are self-hating. And whenever they find another reddit post that labels them a hate group, they devolve into giggling and joking about taking away “freezed peaches” and implementing the “gynocracy.” How could you possibly take that seriously?
Clint, you’re a proven libelous lying shit-spewing weasel-fucker, so anything else you say is irrelevant. Good day.
PEMRA is even less interesting than the others–he has no capacity to comprehend context, nuance, perspective or irony, and thus views any and all offenses given as identical.
“Yeah, I didn’t even see if those random conversations came from SRS and even if they did from the random bboring crap I glimpsed I did not see any straight white men hate.. but maybe that’s cuz my sister summarized it for me and said it was random boring crap”
First of all, I can assure you they did come from SRS (if you want more, check out r/SRSsucks, it’s a great, intelligent community dedicated to countering the “SRS” hate group).
Well, PEM, you argue like a petulant, not bright child.
I call bullshit.
Guys, clearly any woman who DARES to speak in public is harassing any men in her presence. I mean, come on.
oh, you can assure me. That reassures me so much because you have proven yourself to be a completely reliable and trustworthy source from Glenn Sacks and reddit as your examples of non-misogynistic mras.
I know, Cloudiah, our voices are so high pitched and squeely that it is assault to MANLY MEN’S eardrums
“When you say something like “I don’t condone the responses of people who have given her death/rape threats BUUUUUT she also did some bad things too so let’s not pretend like it’s a one-way street” (And yes, this is what you said. This is not a direct quote, but this is a fair synopsis), you are effectively victim-blaming. You are justifying the way this woman is being treated right now by implying that she somehow deserves it.”
You can’t paraphrase that much. I said I don’t condone the behaviour, however the way it is being portrayed is disingenuous. If we are saying harassment is just wrong across the board, we have to say she’s wrong too because she organized harassment of the group you don’t like, and that’s not OK just because you don’t like them
“I can assure you” is also the new “And that’s real.”
Wow this thread has over a thousand comments already O_O
So
Not
French.
No True Frenchman, a legatee of Foch, and Joffre, and Bernadotte and Napoleon; from the nation which had the longest unbroken family of soveriegns in the history of Europe would laud it’s American reputation as being prone to surrender.
So
Not
French
Code Napoleon. ‘Nuff said.
Marie, if you can’t admit she harassed them you are wrong and you think harassment is OK as long as people you don’t like are being harassed. By your logic, it’s OK that the redhead is being harassed.
Clint is boring, I swear someone already explained this to him. :/
Sorry my comments are so unsubstantial today, just brain floopy and dead.
Music break.
PEM, shut up honey, the women are talking here.
Clint, you’re a proven libelous lying shit-spewing weasel-fucker, so anything else you say is irrelevant. Good day.
“You kinda cut out a middle section there, where I explain that they intend to dish out to SWASCMs what other people receive, intending to break down the privilage SWASCMs get of never having their entire gender or race judged by the actions of some, etc.”
First of all, their motives are irrelevant to the fact that, by definition, they operate on the principles of a hate group… ergo, they are one, however they justify their hate group’s existence.
“They pretend. A large portion of their community is SWASCM, I doubt that they all are self-hating. ”
Well, I don’t really think it’s a large portion of the community. Also, you wouldn’t have to be “individually” self-hating… you just hate the group you’re a part of.
Secondly- I’d disagree. I don’t really think it’s a joke. I’ll point to my Imgur link and r/SRSsucks. They encourage real hatred against groups of people, without irony.
@clint
Go hug a cactus. We’ve already hit that it’s legal to protest groups. Get that through your thick ignorant skull.
comparing her alleged harrassment to their alleged harrassment is like comparing a lit match to a forest fire.
okay, self editing I mean “her alleged harrassment (cuz it’s not been proven yet) to their HARRASSMENT” but the parrallel phrasing got to me
Ffs, the logo for SRS is giant purple dildos. The side bar has had an oboros as a dildo, a giant dildo cake, dags, and the big blue BRD that mythos folks have decided means Bring Reddit Down, but in reality came from the same funny misspelling of “dog” in a mod convo. And have you ever scrolled all the way to the bottom of the site? Delightful artwork of the Archangelles flying in and stealing away internet points while redditors weep over the loss of internet points.
Seriously, how does anybody think that that site is serious in hatred? The most hatred I see is towards the “shitlords” who say all the shitty things that are posted, the shitty things that are said, the constant upvotes of shit, and the constant downvotes of reasonable things. Even then, the common reaction is less anger and more sadness (which commenters counteract with pictures of corgis).
Why are MRAs so simpleminded? This batch in this thread especially.
Troll to english: IF you can’t admit that my opinion that i have not yet provided evidence for is the correct opinion then i will put words in your mouth. HAHAHHA
Anything Clint says is harassment is harassment, and if you disagree that just shows you support harassment, and all harassment is the same, ergo feminists demand death/rape threats rain down upon them any time they speak in public.