And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.
Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.
Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.
A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.
Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.
This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.
Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:
I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .
Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …
I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …
In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.
I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.
With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.
TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.
Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”
Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”
Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:
Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.
And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:
Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.
Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.
Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.
This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.
I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.
This is what MRA “activism” looks like.
Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.
an the other hand, supposedly he accused a woman of fabricating abuse, so…
http://www.randijames.com/2010/02/glenn-sacks-get-served.html
and evidently he tried to convince people not to fund a domestic violence shelter
http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2008/12/04/domestic-violence-shelter-targeted-by-anti-feminists-some-of-the-vile-language-and-verbal-abuse-we-took-on-the-phone-was-horrific/
I think it is a “some say” quote which her work disputes.
On a thread about someone recieving so much death threats and abuse by the mra, I will tell you extra to fuck yourself.
Protip, Pro-Equality: don’t use the word “infancy” to describe a pack of men who act like delicate fucking flowers and scream every time a woman says something they don’t like. The jokes write themselves.
@fade
So he’s basically an asshat? And he’s ‘pro equality’s’ moderate mra? I mean, I suppose for the moment he can technically have a ‘not as much of a jerk as he could have been’ award.
“and there has been a tonne of silencing of free speech”
the thing about free speech, is that it also includes the right to organize and protest what other people are saying. MRAs only want the perks of free speech, and none of the criticism.
“heck, cite moderate MRA talking points. That’d be fun. No points for you if they reduce to things that feminists already believe and are working towards.”
I DO think that paper abortions are a reasonable talking point- even if I disagree with them (I left a comment earlier in this thread to this effect, which got overlooked I guess). Still, I do think that our child support system needs some serious work.
“Read r/shitredditsays for a bit.”
I am aware of ShitRedditSays. They are a hate group.
*the aformentioned award involves me playing the worlds tiniest violin, btw.
PEM: got anything original at all? We’ve heard all your shit before.
Yeah, I stole it, hellkell. It’s from a goofy satire song about Star Trek — I just inserted Shit Lording where Star Trekking should be.
Again with this shit on this thread. Get some fucking perspective.
Also, only possible way I can see paper abortions be a reasonable talking point is if the govt. paid child support/ offered assistance instead, since the kids actually need to eat, which somehow I assume you’d disagree with.
Was SRS on the SPLC’s list of hate groups? No? Huh. AVfM was.
SRS is a hate group.
how? Citation needed.
And what does the child support system need work on? I mean, I’m not incredibly well educated on this topic, so it may very well need work but if by “it needs work” you mean “Non custodial parents should not have to financially support their kids” then you are wrong
Clearly because of misandry 😉
Totes misandry, Marie. Totes.
“Again with this shit on this thread. Get some fucking perspective.”
I don’t know what you mean? ShitRedditSays is, by any definition, a hate group. I don’t even think they really dispute it.
“Was SRS on the SPLC’s list of hate groups? No? Huh. AVfM was.”
This isn’t actually true. They just did an article on us. Also, ShitRedditSays is some random community on Reddit, they’re not on the SPLC’s radar. But if they were movement-sized, they’ probably make it on the list. This isn’t really deniable.
Citation needed. And I will try to spell it out to you.
We are talking about a post where the subject is someone was HARASSED and recieved DEATH THREATS and you are whining about people being quoted on the shit they say? How many fucking people recieve death threats for being quoted on shit reddit says?
Get. Some. Fucking. Perspective.
Guys, I’ve got some toilet paper, I think we need to wipe some of this shit off now.
Cripes. This has been going on for HOW many pages? Fuck, I don’t want to do anything that feels good for that long.
Glenn Sacks? Welp, didn’t take me long to find this article he’s writtent in Huff-Po:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/glenn-sacks/researcher-says-womens-in_b_222746.html
Yup. I’m not going to bother digging into the studies he cites, but I’d bet dollars to donuts he cites the same study that every other MRA cites that claims that women are just as violent as men are in IPV cases (the study that is abhorrently flawed in so many ways).
I could buy that he is a moderate MRA, I guess, in that he isn’t calling for men to go to war… But geeze, this is still really bad.
A hate group = a community that primarily bases its ideology on hating (a) group(s) of people. This is literally a description of ShitRedditSays. So yes, it is a hate group. It’s an insignificant hate group, a hate group that doesn’t do that much harm… but it’s still a hate group.
… you have not supported any evidence for this hate group claim
Here’s a fun fact: repeating something a gazillion times does not make it true. IT makes you sound like a five year old who thinks that repeating that he defended his friends against a robber enough timeswill make anyone exclaim ‘Omg that is so badass’.
True story. a kid I babysit tried to tell me a similar story (i can’t remember his exact wording). I was carefully noncommital.
Holy. Where the hell did we get linked that has attracted all these new, fun, identical trolls? Or is it just the one guy and a whole bunch of puppet friends? Like Mr. Dressup?
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… that is not what a hate group is, pro-misogyny mra.
Now, I know wikipedia isn’t the most reliable source, but it is certainly more reliable than your ass
“This isn’t really deniable” is the new “And that’s real.”