And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.
Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.
Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.
A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.
Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.
This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.
Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:
I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .
Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …
I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …
In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.
I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.
With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.
TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.
Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”
Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”
Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:
Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.
And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:
Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.
Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.
Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.
This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.
I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.
This is what MRA “activism” looks like.
Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.
I’ll bring tapestry cushions and decorative throws and hot chocolate. With marshmallows, ‘cos I’m sure hot chocolate with marshmallows is misandrist. I mean, penguins drink it all the time and we know what they’re like.
Clint, protesting outside of a meeting Canadians find objectionable is perfectly legal, so long as they aren’t obstructing exits.
Pulling a fire alarm is a felony. I know because I am the superintendent of an apartment building and I’ve been subpoened to testify against the asshat who pulled the fire alarm in my building. That being said, even if bigred was the one pulling the alarm (and she wasn’t) the correct response is to have police investigate and press charges. The correct response is also for people to say that what she did was wrong and that she deserves the penalties the Canadian law allows. And those penalties are significant. It is beyond the pale horrifying to send death threats, rape threats or post that persons personal information so they can be further harassed.
MRA’s here tread a very fine line with our laws here, as much of what they say and do could easily fall under our hate speach laws. And a great many Canadians object to that. The only reason the protest wasn’t larger is that most Canadians are unaware of what MRA’s represent.
I’ll bring the cupcakes! 😀 (they should have baby penguins on them)
As one of the resident misandry targets, I’ll bring my freezed peaches so they can be taken away. ^_^
Kirbywarp, glad to see you’re okay.
I just like the writing so much better in the first one. I think the equalist plotline lacked self awareness*
* I have this entire thing where I judge shows by this. It kind of like.. I’ll use avatar references to explain this
In the first show, we saw that the fire nation was bad. We saw that they were attacking people. But we also saw that in the schools, the fire nation propaganda was influencing the kids at a very young age, and out of all of the nations, it was the one with the most gender equality (mostly due to needing women to fill in for jobs during war time, is my guess).
We could guess that the earth kingdom was semi-misogynistic. They didn’t have any women in the war, but they also didn’t seem to block them out from things like the water tribe.
In the water tribe, Katara said that she and Sokka were left in charge of the tribe, but it seemed like Sokka was more in charge than she was. When she protests Aangs banishment, she doesn’t do it as a leader, she acts like a subject. Gran gran could theoretically have vetoed it, but she didn’t. They also have the gender disparity in the age ceremony that Sokka does in the Shirshu episode.
The northern water tribe was even more obvious. And it’s not like we only noticed it when Paku said Katara couldn’t water bend. None of the people we saw water bending were women; practically all of the people at the “important table” (like the tribe’s leader) are men except Yue.
Anyway, my point is each of the nations have different gender roles, and they stay consistent. We also see stuff like the Earth Nation general being corrupt when they try to force aang into the avatar state.
…. so my point is, I guess it came across as nuanced.
But in Legend of Korra, we couldn’t tell anything on gender roles. Is everyone equal? If so, why such the gender disparity in roles (think of how few of the pro-bending players were girls), most of the council members minus that token girl who never talks.
We don’t see behind the scenes in the equalists. they SAY the benders are treat them unfairly, but no one really acknowledges this. I mean, I guess Mako and Bolin wouldn’t have been able to pull themselves out of poverty if they weren’t benders, most of the important figures we see are benders, but none of the characters ever seem to… acknowledge this, so we can’t tell whether the writers think the equalists had a point or they think they were just cartoon bad guys. ANd that’s what I mean when I think it lacks self awareness.
So, I guess the gender roles didn’t tie much into this, but I always analyze them when I watch. 😉
@Kittehserf:
Thanks. Luckily everyone I know seem to be ok as well. Things have been intense though… My school had a “suspicious package” alert the day after the bombs, which fortunately turned out to be nothing. Yeesh…
I have a honeycake recipe I’m dying to try . . .
Phew, Kirby’s here.
Marie, you and I can make the spanakopita together; it’s a fun assembly-line thing to do!
That’s good to hear – about everyone you know being safe and the suspicious package being nothing.
@cloudiah
Yay! 😀 It is 😀
I wanna try this spanakopita. Never had it and the Special Misandrist Spanakopita would have to be the best!
I’ll bring my grrl powa music collection!
It’s spinach with a tiny bit of green onions and lots of feta cheese connected with eggs and held together in buttered filo!!!
It is awesome!!
@Fade:
Interesting points… I feel like they tried to make legend of korra “bending in early 20th century america” or something, and they inherited all of the usual gender roles behind the scenes, to the point where they didn’t even have to think about it (and therefore didn’t have to acknowledge or reason about it).
I kinda noticed the bending thing too. It sorta felt like the show expected the audience to just know that people with powers would try to take advantage of people without powers, which is a common trope in other fantasy movies. The first scene we see in the main city is a gang of benders intimidating non-bending shop owners, so we do get some scenes of justification.
But yeah, the bending/non-bending thing isn’t all that prevelant during the rest of the show… If it were on purpose, maybe the point is that the equalists are playing off of non-bender’s jealousy and framing it as oppression? I dunno…
@kittehs
It’s extra misandristical when you
make it with your dad for fun on easterforce you’refatherMANSERVANT to help you with it, especially the icky parts, like squeezing water out of the spinach*!!!!!!!!*lies, I always used to get stuck with this.
Okay, but then you have a massive failure to communicate. If you’re not sure about something, say so. Because if you make a bunch of arguments in support of something–and none against–then, surprise surprise, people will think you support it.
And if you’re not sure, why don’t you just ask what we think? Why regurgitate all the MRA talking points? We already know them, you already know them, you’re just wasting everyone’s time. (If you’re not sure if we know, you could always ask, or wait until we ask. But this is a blog about misogyny, so it’s fair to assume that we’ve heard it before.)
The problem is since the characters or plot never addressed it, we can’t tell whether it was on purpose. Hence why I declared the show less self-aware. XD I don’t know if that’s the right term, but that’s how I classify shows in my head.
I knew spanakopita was feta cheese and spinach, and I love the cheese-spinach combination anyway, so yay! With extra misandry!
Hmm, music. Would it be misandrist enough to bring Renaissance music? All the stuff I had was written by dudes, but they did wear lace and velvet and satin and stuff, and one of my albums is called Musique de Joye, which doesn’t sound like something RealManlyMenz™ would ever admit to.
Yeah, I have to say that I’ve found Lengend of Kora a disappointment compared to Avatar, as well. Koras a pretty good show, and does have some interesting storylines and good female characters. I just don’t think it is as carefully and well written as Avatar.
Here, I’ll give an example of how you could bring it up in a reasonable way:
“One of the ideas that I’ve heard from the MRM that is interesting is paper abortions. Have you heard of them? It doesn’t seem fair that a guy can end up having to support a baby he doesn’t want to have and that’s a men’s issue that I think ought to be addressed. But I’m not sure if paper abortions are the right solution because there are some possible problems with them too. What do you guys think?”
@ hellkell- oh crap, then I am doubly sorry.
@kittehs
Feta cheese and spinach omlettes= perfect.
LOL Marie just saw your manservant comment!
😀 😀 😀
The most misandric songs.
fight like a girl by emilie autumn
And
Don’t get married girls