And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.
Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.
Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.
A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.
Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.
This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.
Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:
I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .
Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …
I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …
In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.
I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.
With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.
TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.
Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”
Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”
Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:
Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.
And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:
Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.
Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.
Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.
This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.
I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.
This is what MRA “activism” looks like.
Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.
pestie is like those fainting goats; stupidest defense mechanism ever.
Oh my god, I think he’s beginning to grok sarcasm and normal conversation!
No, wait, false alarm.
@TomBCat: Nopestories is just enjoying the attention. Because hearing about how bad other people have it really makes him feel like the spotlight isn’t on him.
Related: people using the #falseflag hashtag. They’re doing the same thing; making somebody else’s tragedy all about how the government is after them.
It’s all about the narcissism.
@Bagelsan
It is truly amazing to see a nickname for an unbearably troll be created. I shall call them pestie from now on, too.
You know, on the off chance I respond to them cuz they’re really boring.
Fainting goats? Fainting goats!
I love fainting goats.
We need to get all those goats fainting couches.
…Someone needs to do a fainting goat/Rarity mashup.
Please send this woman my love and support! She deserves sainthood and shouldn’t have to die for it. Thank you for this article and for standing up for her!
Poor word choice perhaps. Oh well. There’s a better way to describe you: an immature, bigoted dipshit who is trying to act cool and be recognized as a rebel.
I could imagine a fainting goat smashing on a keyboard as it falls type more coherent and useful sentences than pestie, though(nice nick)
“Nopestories is just… *makes the jerking it motion*”
Old term for that: feeding the chickens. 😉
@howard bannister, I want you to know that I don’t blame women for any of this stuff. I blame society.
“Yes, yes, yes, yes, HEY WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS MEN ALREADY HAVE ALL THE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS.” I have no idea why you think men have ALL the reproductive rights.” Reproductive rights fall to women in most states.
“Parental rights? Men have all the parental rights.” Again, the courts statistically favor women in custody battles as the critieria for gaining custody favors women. Both of the things above do stem from patriarchy.
“Circumcision? Yes, they’re working on it. They’re the only ones I see doing work on it.” This just isn’t true. There are several non-feminist groups working on ending this. Many fathers rigths groups work on this.
“Stopping me from being blocked from female dominated industries?
Hmmm…. name a few, plz?”
Careers that women make up 90% of the labor force and men have a hard time entering:
Source: U.S. Dept. of Labor, Employment & Earnings, January 2005, Table 11, pp. 210 -215:
Kindergarten teachers
Teachers assistant
Registered Nurses
Occupational Therapists
Speech-language pathologists
Dental Hygienists
Licenced practical nurses
Resturaunt Host
Hairdresser/comopology
Child care workers
Bookkeeping/auditing clerks
Receptionsists
Secretaries
Word Processors/typists
Of course all of this is due to sex typing.
“They are working on it. Currently much more than any men’s group.”
Mostly because every men’s group that starts is automatically associated with other MRA’s. I say, give new men’s rights groups or whatever you want to call them, a fair chance.
“And expecting them to speak for you is also bullshit.”
I don’t expect anyone to speak for me, I do however expect people to give me the chance to speak.
“I don’t see any problems here, except that a lot of things you called problems look like a pile of MRA bullshit.”
Maybe they look like MRA bullshit because you refuse to actually look into it before making illogical assumptions….because of patriarchy. You obvioulsy are against patriarchy, yet here you are acting out because of patriarcy.
I’ll make a derail here if people don’t mind.
I think I have a gastric ulcer. My stomach pain, which is best described as a very harsh burning sensation, hasn’t abated for 4 days. Yesterday night I was in so much pain that I slept for only 2-3 hours. I’m also having extremely loose stool and, today, it’s extremely hard to bring myself to eat anything. I wish I could go to the doctor to confirm what my condition is, but I haven’t received my health insurance yet, so I can’t.
All I know so far regarding the cause of this is that this gastric pain is greatly exacerbated if not mostly caused by internalized stress and anxiety. (I have a bad diet, too, but that’s a very minor factor here.) I’m stressed out about my future, overwhelmed by my dysphoria, and worried about how I’m going to deal with the family members who won’t accept me. It’s very likely that all of my anxiety and stress is also taking a toll on my physical health. But I can’t tell any of my religious family members that because then they will keep asking me why I’m feeling anxious and stressed.
So yeah, I don’t have many options. All I can do is to try to slightly alleviate my physical pain as my internalized stress and anxiety won’t be going away for a long time. Does anyone here have food suggestions that aren’t harsh on the stomach? All I can think of at this time is yogurt and food that isn’t very oily.
@ hellkell,
“Do you really think there’s any danger of that happening? dream on.”
No, I don’t think it will every fully happen. We oppose patriarcy and matriarcy because assigning dominence to one gender over another is dangerous.
Also, how do you do the quote box thing?
Free mage, I actually am going to bring up the Men against patriarchy idea to my group. As you said, MAP has great potential.
Put “blockquote” (without the quotes) inside those spaces.
Oops. Here’s another way:
[blockquote][/blockquote]
Replace the square brackets with arrow brackets ()
*facepalm*
Because women DO NOT HAVE THEM ALL YET. Men do. That is why reproductive rights fall to women. Because we are trying to acheive them.
Maybe it would help if you would define reproductive rights.
In cases in which men ask for custody? Because I thought then it was 50/50
@Aaliyah
Sorry, I don’t have any suggestions for food. Normally I eat chicken noodle soup, but that’s just because it’s “the sick food” so I don’t actually know whether it is gentle on your tummy or not. I do have jedi hugs if wanted, though.
^should correct myself up there. CIS women do not have all the reproductive rights, CIS men do. I don’t know enough about trans* issues to know where the reproductive rights fall, but I do know that the crack down on abortions by conservatives could harm men who can get pregnant, too.
Katz, that blog was old and dead. I forgot it even existed. It was made before I even knew what the MRA was.
That’s a good suggestion. I’ll just have to make sure that I don’t put in any spices.
OK, you need to do a hell of a lot more reading. What reproductive rights are you talking about? Bullshit paper abortions? Restricting abortion? WHAT?
As far custody, look it up–80% of father who actually get off their ass and fight for custody get it.
Was just going to say what hellkell said. Google is your friend. @Aaliyah If you want a sweet dessert that is kind to your tummy, try goodie. It’s an old Irish thing that sound gross but is awesome for those of us for whom our stomachs are staging an active revolt.
@Aaliyah, don’t know how reliable this is but I found a list of foods: http://www.mediterraneanbook.com/2010/08/15/list-good-acid-foods-eat-reduce-stomach-acid-reflux/
Also, can you treat the symptoms with Tums or a generic antiacid?
@Aaliyah
I can tell you about personal experience(and some doctors tips). No guarantees, everyone is a little different and I don’t know what you actually have.
I wouldn’t eat things with a lot of fruit acid, no flavour enhancers, no tea with fruit, drink lots of water(not the sparkly kind), don’t drink it cold. Eat dark bread, no white. Lot’s of vegetables, no yeast. Bananas are great. Natron calms the stomach acids but wouldn’t overuse it and only if it feels like heartburn(It can be bought in pill form). Watch out for gluten.
If yoghurt works, try to let it warm up a little. Take a lot of time for what you eat and eat in small portions.