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Antifeminist crusader Erin Pizzey bravely tells Redditors that “never in the history of the world have men been so unprivileged, if you think about it.”

How Erin Pizzey imagines most middle-class whtie women live, apparently
How Erin Pizzey imagines most feminists live, apparently

Longtime antifeminist crusader Erin Pizzey recently did an “Ask Me Anything” session on Reddit. Here are some highlights — by which I mean lowlights — from her answers.

Ms. Pizzey wants to ban feminism as a hate movement:

Personally, I would like to see the feminist movement described as a hate movement, so that we can then ban them from the government, from university faculties, from anywhere where they can destroy the minds of young women and men.

It’s just a teensy bit ironic, I would say, that she characterizes feminism as a hate movement at the very same time that A Voice for Men, a site she has very publicly aligned herself with, is leading a hate campaign against an individual feminist activist. (More on this to come tomorrow.) Indeed, Pizzey herself adds to the vilification of the activist here.

And speaking of A Voice for Men, she apparently agrees with AVFM’s Paul Elam that feminists are only interested in the issue of rape because they have rape fantasies and are angry that they’re not getting enough attention from men:

If you’re referring to Paul’s statement that many or most women fantasize about being taken, I’m sorry but that’s the truth. That doesn’t mean they want to be raped, but it’s a fantasy I think almost all women have. And I think he went on to say that feminists like Andrea Dworkin who were and are so obsessed with rape are really projecting their own unconscious sexual frustration because men don’t give them enough attention. Andrea was a very sad lonely woman like this–I didn’t know her but I knew of her, and I knew Susan Browmiller and you can just read her stuff to see it there.

Yeah, I’m thinking that Dworkin’s “obsession” with rape might have had less to do with her wanting “attention” from men than it did with the fact that she had been raped.

In response to a question about using Title IX to increase the number of women in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM), Pizzey argues that most women’s brains aren’t equipped to handle all that sciencey stuff, and that most women would rather be raising children:

what will happen is that a few women will come out of that world in those areas that suit men’s brains better than women’s, and do well, but most of them won’t, and they’ll just leave and go on to other professions or to have children or family. That’s what’s been happening all the time when they’ve had quotas.

But what about the men who get excluded because of that? That’s the tragedy isn’t it, and the waste of money. Harriet Harman has proposed quotas for women in parliament, quotas for women in all the high-status fields, and women have flocked in but do not want the gruelling hours that men are willing to put into their professions because most of them–MOST of them–want to be spending time with their children at home, and that God for that.

Pizzey believes that most feminists are “mental patents” who deserve only condescension:

Personally, I don’t get into arguments with mental patients, which is what most feminist women are. Look at them with pity and compassion if you can, speak the truth as you know it.

But if you want a real reaction, pat her on the head and tell her not to worry her pretty little head about it. That’s what I do! I think men have to start using their sense of humor as a weapon. You must get past any sense of anger when you do such things though!

She believes most prominent second-wave feminists were feminists mainly because they hated their dads:

One of the early mantras of the feminist movement was to make the personal political. Therefore, those women who had bitter and violent experiences of the first male their lives (e.g. their father) then branded all men as violent and dangerous. They are also what I call the walking wounded. As far as I’m concerned the prominent feminists of the day virtually all had appalling relationships with their fathers. So if feminism grew out of a justified sense of grievance, and created a platform where they did not attempt to heal their own damage, but to project onto all men… so yes it’s very cultlike that way. But it’s any cult group that works that way, they all have either a figure they adore or a hate object that keeps them together. And their hate is against men, even when they deny it.

Yes, that’s right, she says all this and somehow does not notice the hatred of women amongst the MRAs she’s aligned herself with.

While she dismisses feminists with “daddy issues” she urges those who have been abused by their parents to forget the abuse they’ve endured, forgive their abusers and “move on.”

[T]each yourself that the past is truly the past, it is done and you cannot change it, all it is is a loop in your brain that needs to be closed down so that you can move forward. Because those patterns are deep within you, it takes a lot of hard work, but in the end you FORGIVE YOURSELF and you FORGIVE YOUR PARENTS and move on.

Meanwhile, she thinks that it makes sense for men who don’t like feminism to “head for the hills” and Go Their Own Way.

It was many years ago I was talking to a very eligible bachelor, who was a lawyer, and asked him about American feminists. He laughed and he said “what they never banked on was that men would get together and take to the hills.” This is where that expression comes from. He and his male friends would get together and have a wonderful time, they did not make permanent relationships with women, because they realized they would have too much to lose: their homes, their children, and their money. I always remember this. When 40 year old feminists complain that they can’t find any men to commit themselves, why is it men’s fault? I can’t blame men who feel this way in today’s legal environment. If the so-called women’s movement, the feminists, want men, they have to care equally about men’s desires and men’s need for protection.

This sort of makes sense, given that Pizzey seems to live in an imaginary world in which women, not men, are the truly privileged.

The actual irony of this situation is there is nothing more privileged than white middle class women, who are most of feminists. Very very privileged, because they know when they are born that either the state or a man will take care of them if they do not choose their own career. Men on the other hand are born underprivileged, particularly now, even as small boys they are demonized and discriminated against. …

 I cannot see how sane sensible educated intelligent woman can consider that men are privileged. It has always been rich and middle class women who have been protected, and they are the truly privileged.

Indeed, she’s managed to convince herself that “never in the history of the world have men been so unprivileged, if you think about it.”

Naturally, all of her comments were happily upvoted by the Reddit masses, and her “Ask Me Anything” post itself got more than 1200 upvotes. Evidently pandering to Reddit’s collective fantasies about the oppression of men pays off big in the upvote department.

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Fade
11 years ago

I love this site and the people here, too XD

And in case you’re curious, I did do a tiny bit more research on the European language trees like I said I would, but unfortunately since I am easily distracted all I have learned is that the wikipedia article on Indo-European languages is very boring.

Fade
11 years ago

in addition, fight like a girl! (by the same artist)

katz
11 years ago

Here he is previously insisting that we shouldn’t look at Wikipedia.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Random – it always surprised me that more angry sexist dudes haven’t gone after Emilie Autumn. She punches a lot harder than most female musicians, and in that specific sarcastic way that really pisses them off.

Fade
11 years ago

More on languages:

Evidently the ancient (Linear B) greek script for man and woman looked a lot like modern bathroom signs. And I’m not saying this to be flip, I mean the guy is… a person and the woman is wearing a dress. Actually, probably not a dress. I don’t know if they had dresses back then.

pecunium
11 years ago

If you don’t know anything, then you should keep your ignorance to yourself.

pecunium
11 years ago

Fade, what they didn’t have yet was trousers. What he was wearing was some form of chiton.

Umfweto
Umfweto
11 years ago

@Aaliyah

“This is so cringe-worthy I barely know what to say.”

Round of applaud everyone. Somebody who already knows everything there is to know.

The species has finally evolved an entity that knows everything….

6 billion humans this one know’s everything there is to know. Does not see the need to presume one’s own ignorance.

Let me get a cheer for everyone who’s just as narrow minded.

And with that I would like to say, thank you. fuck mono-culturalism and thank god I’m not American.

Sorry, but I won’t be giving out signed posters tonight.

AVFM for chicks. Well of course.

Fade
11 years ago

Dude, you can think the quote is cringeworthy without thinking you know everything.

But as long as your back on, plz explain the google comment? It has my mono-cultural american brain all confuzzled.

Fade
11 years ago

@Pecunium

Thanks for the info. *switches brain into info absorbtion mode*

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Giving out posters? OMG, The Fillmore has become sentient! Stupid and obnoxious, but sentient.

Fibinachi
Fibinachi
11 years ago

A Voice For Chickens.

With Growl Peck ’em, John the Otter and Fade in charge of writing the theme / anthem. WIth the mighty manifestos of David Furtrelle, The Lord of Cats and Music

[Aside: Awesome god ]

they seek to one day turn the whole world into a mono cultural dystopia of repetive, singular existences and definitions of terms in a fantastic show coming straight to broadway one of these days!

Chickens! Plots! Anger! Screams! Cats! Rage! Languages discussions! AND FINALLY

THE PROPER PLURAL PHRASE OF OCTOPUS WILL! BE! REVEALED

@Umfweto:

Go read the Black Iron Prison and leave us to our narrow world views.

Here, I’ll even link you.

http://principiadiscordia.com/bip/2.php

Enjoy, expand your mind, allow Dis into your heart, have fun, move on.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

Round of applaud everyone. Somebody who already knows everything there is to know.

The species has finally evolved an entity that knows everything….

6 billion humans this one know’s everything there is to know. Does not see the need to presume one’s own ignorance.

Let me get a cheer for everyone who’s just as narrow minded.

And with that I would like to say, thank you. fuck mono-culturalism and thank god I’m not American.

Sorry, but I won’t be giving out signed posters tonight.

AVFM for chicks. Well of course.

I see you fail to understand how pretentious it is to say that the ideology you explicitly claim to live by is the Socratic method. I really hope that you only say stuff like that on the internet.

Also, I find it rather amusing that you assume that I think I know everything. Where in the world did you get that from?

Aaliyah
11 years ago

I mean the Socratic paradox, not the Socratic method. But you catch my drift.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

Speaking of academic stuff, I just found out that I was rejected by UC Berkeley. Oh well. At least I got into that other school.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

LOl at mono-culturalism. I guess even if it were true, it’s better than the moron-culturalism UmDolt is practicing.

Viscaria
Viscaria
11 years ago

I would say something about how extremely classist it is to casually demand that people “Get on a jet plane. The world is fucking diverse at grass roots level,” in order for them to be considered “cultured” or whatever-the-hell other word UmfPell wants to use to mean “superior to the common folk.” I would point out that getting on a plane on a whim is not something most people can afford.

I would, except I’m still pretty sure he offered to buy me a vacation. Maybe he’s offering to buy vacations for everyone! I accept.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

My oath, this thread’s exploded!

Okay, my weekend’s going to be spent doing not a lot, ‘cos aches and pains (I want new legs, anyone got a spare set?).

Food story: Mr K was making pancakes at Home on Thursday night and flipped one too enthusiastically. It landed on Juliet-the-hound’s head. Hugs, sympathy, eating the pancake and a dog biscuit were required to restore her wounded dignity.

Good thing it wasn’t one of the cats, they wouldn’t have been appeased nearly so easily.

Viscaria
Viscaria
11 years ago

Sorry about Berkeley, Aaliyah. 🙁

Fibinachi
Fibinachi
11 years ago

Sympathies, Aaliyah. Sucks.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

Sorry about Berkeley, Aaliyah.

It’s ok. I do feel bad about it, but on the flipside I’m still really happy about getting into UCSC. UCSC is my dream school, anyway (even though UCB is technically better in some respects).

cloudiah
11 years ago

UCSC is awesome, Berkeley doesn’t deserve you. 😉

augochlorella
augochlorella
11 years ago

Aaliyah, I’m sorry you didn’t get into UCB, but I’m glad you got into your dream school.

College is great. If you’re craving freedom, it’ll be a blast. Let me know if you ever want to swap cheap college recipes. =)

katz
11 years ago

I love how the dichotomy is “believe everything he says” and “think you know everything.”

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Aaliyah: sorry about UCB.