Today, some Deep Thoughts about men, women, children, empathy, mini-vans, and patriarchy, from the inimitable Men’s Rights activist and proud misogynist Rob Fedders, whom I found being quoted with approval and even some relish by MGTOWer elder MarkyMark on his little blog today.
Mr. Fedders starts off with a classic misogynist trope: women are like children.
Very few women are capable of empathizing with men. There are about as many women who have the ability to empathize with men as there are children capable of empathizing with adults.
This is what most men fail to grasp, and why they go round and round in circles trying to “explain things” to women.
Women just don’t care. We are here for their purposes, not ours. …
Women will never “care” about men in the same way that men “care” about the wellbeing of women. …
We are designed like this by nature … .
Mr. Fedders offers proof of this evolutionary design by considering a dilemma that preoccupied our ancient ancestors on the African savannah. Namely: who gets the minivan?
You can even see how this works with the way that men and women buy family vehicles. The wife and kids are always put in the best vehicle/mini-van/SUV as possible to “protect them” etc. etc. while the husband drives the run-down piece of crap to work… when the time comes that the husband gets a second vehicle you can usually hear the wife chirping in, “We had to get Joe a new truck… because the last one wasn’t safe and we don’t know what we would do if something happened to him.
That’s the way it has always been and the way it will likely always be.
Apparently, men hunted the mammoth in crappy old pickup trucks.
Fedders returns to his main theme:
Men are a tool to women… a “business.” And to successfully work that business, they must always appear in the needy/attention category. Babies who don’t cry don’t get milk… and women who don’t get attention don’t get taken care of by men. It is an innate feature of humans.
Oh, and in case you were wondering, women have ruled the world from time immemorial.
Women do control society’s values and mores… they lead with what they think is fashionable, and men follow, because by nature we are designed to give women what they want.
And, oh, women invented patriarchy as well.
Women “are” society. What women’s wants are is what society’s want’s are. This is where women are lying when they talk about the dreaded “patriarchy.” The patriarchy only existed because women explicitly approved of it, and endorsed it morally – causing the men to follow suit.
Turns out that patriarchy is basically just a way to make all men slaves to their women:
This is what is happening today too. Most of the anti-feminist battle is not going to be between men and women… it is going to be between women who want a “traditional man” and those who want a collective “government husband.” In both cases, the women are advocating for men to take care of women – with little concern for the man’s wants and needs – one wants a personal slave to serve her & her offspring, while the other wants a slave class to serve women and their offspring in general.
It’s the way human beings are designed. Who cares whether women rule, or if they rule the rulers? The result is the same.
I knew women were sneaky, but I had no idea they were this sneaky.
Y’know, you could switch the genders on this and have MRAs waving it around as “proof” that feminism is evil and all that rot. But of course it’s perfectly sensible this way >.<
Because gods forbid a family want safe cars! And honestly, I’ve never heard anyone say this. I’ve seen far more instances of trucks being considered the man’s “toy”, and certainly not for doing things like hauling the kids around. That’s why you *get* a minivan/SUV as a family. To haul kids + friends + stuff places. Amazing concept!
Children can’t empathize with adults? More proof that MRA’s don’t spend time with their kids.
If you’ve never had a kid come up to you, put their hand on your arm, and go “don’t be sad!” then it’s not that kids can’t empathize with you, it’s that they don’t like you.
(Kids are smarter than people give them credit for – if they don’t like any given adult, they’re usually right about that person.)
You know, it strikes me that if men were designed to be so pleasing and accomodating to women we wouldn’t have feminism.
Proof that men are not so eager to do that? “Dudes, don’t do that/be that guy” a la elevatorgate or donglegate. Just look at the shit both those women are STILL dealing with. For such a simple thing.
I’m guessing that MRAs would explain that as men being tired of having to be accommodating to women. Because women should just do what you want them to without you having to be nice to them, and having to treat women decently is misandry. See how neat and tidy the logical loop is?
This whole ‘I am immume to women’s wiles due to my awesome manliness” kind of fascinates me. It really plays into this idea of being a man means being In control and any empathy or desire is dangerous and secretly a power play.
I know we wonder all the time if these guys know any women, but do they know any people at all?
This:
I’ve never known a single family like this, ever. I think 100% the people Fedders knows are made 100% of straw.
Cassandra, ergh yeah I see it. But I think you forgot the part where men are tired of being accomodating because its sooo oppresive (getting their own way).
All those dudes dying in wars and mines just to bring home a pretty dress to the wifey.
I’ve seen plenty of guys driving shit vehicles, often because that’s the only family vehicle and sometimes its his winter beater so his really nice toy stays in mint condition until spring.
If you see a random guy driving a shitty car how do you know that he’s married? The magic is confirmation bias, that’s how.
I’d leave a brief comment about who in the family gets which vehicle, but all these pesky “individual experiences” just get in the way of OP’s good, clean, objective sweeping generalizations.
His world view does not appear to include any women who do not have offspring. Odd that.
Wow. In the full text, he also mentions women’s historical opposition to adultery laws as proof that dads are beta providers used to raise the alpha’s child (it’s nature’s design!).
It can’t be because adultery laws were only targeted at women (often punishable by death) until the 17th century. Then, gasp, a wind of misandry blew, and men had to be imprisonned for 2 weeks (and women still put to death).
Obviously the alpha thing is the logical cause and effect to the opposition.
(men were imprisonned for 2 weeks for cheating, not for being cheated on, of course)
@pillowinhell
Notice the change of words… He writes that women don’t care about men while men care about the well being of women. In other words, men make sure they tell you what’s good for you, and patronize you like a good dad would. Now, I don’t know who these men are, they’re certainly not the men I know.
For some reason, I get a feeling that most MRAs wouldn’t appreciate a woman “caring for them” in a patronizing, infantilizing manner (and they’d be right). I guess this controlling bs is only love and care when a man does it on a woman.
I’m amused by the “I know, all the women I’ve dated were shitty people, therefore, science” argument. What’s the common denominator here that might be attracting and/or attracted to shitty people? (it’s a tough one)
You vile women force poor men to mansplain all the time because you have no empathy! /sarcasm
“Men are a tool to women… a “business.” And to successfully work that business, they must always appear in the needy/attention category. BABIES WHO DON’T CRY DON’T GET MILK… and women who don’t get attention don’t get taken care of by men. It is an innate feature of humans.”
Those evil babies and their manipulative need for food! How dare they make noise to communicate their desires! How dare they be so helpless and unable to provide for themselves! If I were a baby, I would remain totally silent and hunt the mammoth my own damn self!
It’s like they don’t realize that comparing grown women to infants is a false equivalency. On a happier note, Robert Downey Junior: http://onlylolgifs.net/post/47189804297/thedecemberchild-strangestwords
Also, brain bleach. Audio is a must: http://onlylolgifs.net/post/47162812214/puffpuffpeace-smokeweeedgethigh
I saw that too, titianblue.
He is effing mansplaining mansplaining.
Women are the rulers of the world but also the ‘government husband’ is men taking care of women.
I truly honestly believe this isn’t a contradiction.
Wow. I’m going to guess that this guy knows no one and rarely leaves his house. Or else his knowledge of the world is gleaned entirely through commercials.
Logical consistency is misandry.
Totes misandry.
I wonder what he thinks caring about is, if he can supposedly “care” about women while going on about how empathy-less and awful they arw
I wonder what he thinks caring about is, if he can supposedly “care” about women while going on about how empathy-less and awful they arw
“I care about you, you vile, evil, dishonest, untrustworthy piece of shit!”