Sometimes my job here is too easy. Usually I have to leave the confines of my own blog to find examples of misogyny to share on the blog. Today, the misogyny came right to me, in the form of a cartoon-villain-esque monologue deposited directly into the comments here by a proud woman-hater named Mark Minter.
Oh, but don’t call him a misogynist. Because Mr. Minter has declared war not only on women (and on me) but on language itself. Rejecting the dictionary definition of “misogynist” as “one who hates women,” Minter declares himself to be a “woman hater” but somehow not a misogynist. I don’t get it either. Here’s his, er, argument:
Manboob,
You throw this misogynist term around like it is an insult. But you know me, who I am, what I write. And I honestly believe I am not a misogynist.
I am a Woman Hater. There is a world of difference.
Misogynist is a clever little Femcentric term that women created to hurl at men or society whenever men or society don’t fall to their knees for the little dears. Sort of like Racist, something that the thinking man, the educated men would never wished to be levied at him.
But I’m woman hater. And it came from a long, long time of seeing, watching, and being with women, and knowing the creepy, greedy, scummy, black hearted little bitches that they are. You can’t hurl that “you just get didn’t get any” thing women that like to toss at men’s bloggers, because I did and I know them to their fucking core, literally and figuratively. My number dwarfs the number of the average man.
A woman hater knows women, to their core, to their little black hearted center, and hates them as they are for who and what they are. I could less if the little dears get all the institutional things they want. Heck I want them to have it and create their little world that they are over there with them, and men are over here.
Hurl your epithets at me, your misogynist accusations and I don’t care other than, in a correct verbal sense, you are using the wrong term. Its a little insulting from that standpoint, but I find it fitting that you can’t tell a misogynist from woman hater. You defend them because you don’t know them.
See, being a woman hater is a sign of good sense, a realistic appreciation of the world, the way things are, and especially the way women are.
PS, I’m here because my name showed up with you bashing me over something and I wish you would do it more. It really gives me better cred with the fellows. Fuck, we’re even good for each other. I give you shit to write about so you can play your beta/omega game, “Look I stood for you against those bad bad men. Please don’t reject me.” and your slamming me gives me more cred in the ‘Sphere.
Toddles Manboob
Mark Minter
So there you have it.
Also, Mark, I believe you mean “toodles,” not “toddles.” “Toodles” is a shortening of “Toodle loo,” a slang term meaning “goodbye.” “Toddle,” by contrast, means “to walk with short, unsteady steps” or “to walk leisurely; stroll.”
Also, my name isn’t “Manboob.” “Man Boobz” is the name of the blog, and my term for dear fellows like yourself, who are men and also boobs. That is, “foolish or stupid” people. I’m David.
Toddles!
EDIT: In case you had forgotten who Minter was (I had), he wrote the little manifesto I wrote about here. You know, the one about how Obama’s reelection was going to lead to some sort of dystopian matriarchy. Pretty standard Manosphere moonbattery.
Other things that make more sense than Mark Minter: the Statue of Liberty Cannon.
I’m sorry. I’ll be done now. My brain’s just still reeling from that obesity article he wrote. I’m having trouble accepting that it’s possible for one person to be so wrong about so many things.
TomBcat, may I award you one internet?
Must remember to go find a dog and ask what to do next time I pull a muscle in my thigh.
Whenever I talk to my guinea pigs I just tell them how cute and fuzzy they are *blushes* Excepted when I’m telling them to stop scratching me cuz I’m trimming their nails/ checking their teeth.
@tomBcat
Fluffy bunny! And at least you’re trying to get the links to work 😉 I fail and I just give up and post it usually.
Dang. Memo to self: move soul to better hiding place XD
(I see someone else beat me to this, but whatever :P)
I should ask my dog how to draw legs then. I suck at them.
@auglochlorella
Yes please, I always wanted one of those!
I hear these internets give their owner the power to prove others wrong by calling them names and accusing them of ad hominem at the same time…
I don’t quite get it but it sounds like a super power to me.
Wow, now that was an unbelievable unfunny way of phrasing this. The cue for me to sleep.
Night!
Have fun in your lovely online garden (time for spring, stop snowing, and yes I know, winter was coming on March 31.)
I know this may be a bit off topic but does anybody know if there are still protests against the “mens issues” group at u of t? I just settled back in to Toronto and want to get involved with the activist community here.
According to r/mensrights, an always reliable source, the Toronto activist community is entirely made up of jackbooted Stalinists with box cutters. In other words, a feminist heaven! It does sound like they are still interested in organizing around feminist issues, but I’m afraid I don’t know enough about either your politics or the politics of the various groups on the ground there. Any Canaduckians on the list who know more?
Niters, TomBcat!
… hmm, does this mean I should find a randy dog to tell me what’s wrong with my knees?
(And no one asked me, but I kind of hope they do less against those silly MRAs and more to just educate and promote a positive vision of feminism.)
Speaking of r/mensrights, who the f&%$ is Joe Rogan and why is he #1 with a bullet over there?
I would like to say that rye Cruskits and tasty cheese are yummy.
This was a PSA.
And that’s real.
Do we really need to use ‘doesn’t have job’ as an insult? Or doesn’t have have real job? Just rubbing me the wrong way, job doesn’t affect how good a person is. :/
Maude LL | April 5, 2013 at 4:34 pm //
I apologize and meant no insult to those of us who are unemployed either by choice or circumstances. Frankly, I am barely hanging on to the job I have now, which makes me all the more amazed that these misogynists (er, I mean “woman haters”) are able to devote so much time and effort into their relentless irrational treatises. What I meant was that they don’t seem to have enough to do.
Of course, all they seem to do is write this crap to each other, with occasional time-outs to post a few fliers that are immediately torn down or papered over. They’re all talk and no action, and thank the powers to be for that…
What irritates me the most about the MRAs is their insistence that women have such an easy ride on the backs of men. Because that has absolutely not been my experience nor the experience of any women I personally know.
Pardon me — it’s been a long week at a job I don’t love but need to keep in order to survive — so that was informing my comment.
Hey tomcat, dogs, cats and also patient friends are a good source of info on knees, teenage daughter are great for getting rid of spots on your back and bunnies are good for giggles (although mine had forced sexual relations with the cat).
Lah Strega, totally agree, I have not been able to work for six months due to stupid illness and the change in how you are treated and how you feel about yourself is overwhelming at times.
I was soooo lucky that it didn’t do that to me when I spent two years out of work a decade ago. It was a bloody drag going through all the rigmarole with Centrelink and applying for jobs I either hadn’t a hope in Hades of getting (I didn’t apply for things I knew I’d hate) but my self-esteem wasn’t so tied up with being employed as to take a hit from being unemployed. I’d walked out of my job at Centrelink because dealing with the shit in front of the counter was better than dealing with the shit behind it; I was getting so stressed I was put on three months sick benefits when I applied for benefits.
It’d be a damn sight scarier being out of work now. Getting a job when you’re a forty-year-old woman with no qualifications is hard; getting one when you’re fifty, live carless in one of the farthest-flung, jobless suburbs, and have spent eight years in a niche job would be a bloody awful prospect.
Speaking of jobs, I am in Auckland for a job interview on Tuesday, and I’m so nervous I’m having nightmares. I really want this job.
Fingers crossed, WeeBoy, internet hugs for luck and lots of whatever-you’d-like-best-to-eat!
Good luch wee boy!
That Mark Minter “essay” is astonishing:
You don’t say… and citations very much fucking needed.
Where do these people get their ideas about academics? I happen to be one myself and hear the same things all the time about “brainwashed lefty loonies” in “ivory towers”. Do they honestly believe there are no right-wing academics, even after the outbursts of misogynist and racist James Watson, and Holocaust denier David Irving, not to mention all the Oxbridge graduates in the UK’s Conservative Party?
Also do they really think we do no proper research and can just get away with making shit up, and then get our made-up shit through the peer review process? And then write any old shit on a grant application and still get it through a highly competitive application process? Or do they just like to imagine this so they have a handy excuse to discredit any research findings which don’t tally with their prejudices?
Sorry for the rant, but I do get a bit fed up of being told that I do nothing all day by people who have no idea what academic research actually involves.
Stepford knife, I have any friends who work in and around academic research, yes there is politics regarding funding, and politics about which foundation or university the research is tagged with but NEVER was the research polluted to the point they would cover up facts like this douche avers.
Yoyo- my point was really: in biomedical science, if you make shit up, you will get caught.
Maybe this guy is also an antivaxxer who believes Andrew Wakefield was bravely challenging “the concensus”, rather than a fraud who got caught out.
I really wish there were more scientists out there, or at least that more people would bother to find out what we actually do and would try to understand, rather than attacking us all the time. Charlie Brooker sums it up nicely here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2008/aug/02/television.television?mobile-redirect=false
Minter is hilarious. Since the science doesn’t say what he thinks it should, the scientists must be lying. He knows this because…he just does, OK? Don’t question him – that’s misandry, that is.
I hate when folks use sources from non-peer reviewed sources. Especially extremely biased non-peer review sources. I remember arguing online and having a guy tell me the census was BS and not a good source of information.
Gah … what was his rationale for that?