Men’s Rights Redditor: “Women are like parasites.”

Am I reading wrong, or was scrapemind just pointing out that the Pharyngula post was an old C&P, and making it clear that zie doesn’t endorse the view personally? That’s how I read zir comments.

Re: worst jobs…yeah, food service (especially fast food) is among the worst in developed nations. Fruit picking is also awful, especially if you’re doing it for less than the minimum wage as many of the migrant workers in the US are.

I’ve actually worked unskilled construction and kind of liked it? Like, it sucked a bit because it was a mostly male workplace and there was some harassment (although I was lucky enough to be with a company that really didn’t tolerate that overall, so I dealt with very little), but overall I think it can be a pretty fun job if you enjoy using your body to work. I like manual labor more than white collar stuff though (and have done both) so take that as you will.

I’m a woman who mostly learned construction from a woman who was also in the military, and actually enjoy manual labor and am stronger than the average guy, and am on a first responder team where I have to meet the same physical standards as the men to boot! It’s always so fun to find out that women like me don’t exist in MRA-land, because I actually know a lot of us.

I love it when people seem to think that Hobbes’ interpretation of human nature is the most accurate. I mean wasn’t it Locke who won out in the end? And then you have stories like Don Quixote that blow any notion of human nature being even remotely that simple completely out of the water. And then there’s Kant, who while problematic in some of his beliefs, being a product of his time, still made a very good case for humans not being inherently evil. In fact I’d argue that we’ve made so much progress towards proving the fact that we’re not these inherently self-interested, sadistic, evil little creatures that MRAs think we are that just seeing the notion brought up in serious discussion has become utterly laughable.

Also with regards to the comment that sparked this, that kind of blind rage is by no means the way towards progress. In fact it’s thought like that that poisons one’s mind and leads to things like the TERF movement, the MRM, MGTOWS, the SCUM manifesto, Naziism, Stalinism, and pretty much every other kind of reactionary and/or regressive thought pattern that has ever existed throughout history. It’s kind of the reverse of yoda’s warning in the star wars prequels (cliched reference I know) but still, as much as fear can lead to hate, it can work the other way around. That’s not to excuse this MRA fellow’s comment, because he’s being just as bigoted and hateful here.

I worked in a factory. Generally, mostly men with a few women sprinkled in. Most of middle management were women, but all upper management I ever saw were men.

argh, premature post buttonitis! *chocolate chip cookies

I’m sorry that happened to you, Historophilia.

Hugs all round!

And all the more raisin oatmeal cookies for me, if they’re not in universal demand. For some reason I’ve gone off chocolate chip cookies. Chocolate chip muffins are great, OTOH.

Never leave Rachel Carson off that list of high achieving women. Good scientist, brilliant writer. The Sea Around Us is absolutely masterful, though most people are more familiar with Silent Spring .

She’s been dead for decades and they’re still giving her stick.

If we’re putting Sally Ride in the list, the oft-overlooked Valentina Tereshkova belongs on it too.

“And Kitteh, ooh pie! Maybe I could try a slice of each, I could have a balanced three course meal of pie, pie and pie :P”

Mais oui! That’s my kind of balanced diet. 😀

lowquacks, how are you? Any news you want to share? People were asking after you today.

@Kittehs

Sorry, haven’t read the threads back far. RE: Lavvy, here’s what I’ve sent close friends who’ve asked on facey (excuse the lack of capitals; if I know the intended audience personally I tend to skip them)

lavvy went in for an x-ray today but didn’t get the planned biopsy
he’s back home and a little wobbly from the anaesthetic but fine
anyway his liver’s very knobby and almost certainly cancerous
primary liver cancer in cats is really rare tho
which means it’s probably spread from somewhere
he’s probably full of cancer
we talked about biopsies and chemotherapy to extend his life but he’s a very old kitty and we don’t want to put him through distress/wondering why we’re sending him to nasty places to get nasty needles that make him feel bad
i don’t want him to think we’re punishing him for being sick, i want him to know he’s loved so so much
if we took him in for a biopsy tomorrow [UPDATE: we didn’t] what would probably happen is they’d cut into him, see he’s riddled cancer, and it’d be inhumane not to euthanise at that point
so mum and dad and i (not [MY SISTER] tho) support just keeping him home, away from vets and distress, giving him lots of love, and having him put down when it becomes apparent that he’s not living a satisfying life anymore
we know that he’s not long for this world – in cat lifespan terms, he’s on borrowed time already
so the idea is to just enjoy what time we have left with him, which could be weeks, could be months, maybe even a year
or could just be a few days
we just don’t know
:

@Kittehs

I’m really really happy I got to see him again, but it’s pretty upsetting.

It’s exactly what my grandmother had at the age of 40 too, and it’s really upsetting to mum that that’s the case. We knew he was poorly but just thought he was getting really old. He’s quite tired and with not a lot of appetite (but always asks for food), and doesn’t purr quite as loudly, but seems reasonably happy for now. We’re just going to spoil him and keep him from unsupervised trips outside until it’s time that’d it better for him to go in to get a big needle from the vet.

How did you handle things with Katie?

Pretty much as you’re doing. She was much further along; our vet said she probably had about a fortnight to go and that’s about what it was. There was no question of treatment, apart from cortisone to help her appetite during the short time she had left. He’d said the same thing about doing an exploratory – that it might be kindest to let her pass under the anaesthetic – but I said no, if she wasn’t in pain I wanted her brought back (I was going to be in Portland the weekend of the op).

Only thing I can suggest (probably totally needlessly) is to keep an eye out for signs of distress, if he calls or cries. Katie went from heart failure during that horrible week before Black Saturday, and if I’d recognised the symptoms I’d have had her to the vet sooner. As it was, she passed in her own time, which I must say is entirely typical of that child.