I‘m beginning to wonder if every single complaint from manosphere misogynists comes back to their rage at the fact that women get to decide who can have sex with them. Take the following comment from MGTOWforums.com. The ostensible topic of conversation? A study reporting that women tend to feel more stressed than men at work. Watch how deftly MGTOWforums “senior member” 7 Deadly Sins turns the topic from “women in the workplace” to “my sad penis.”
They wanted to work so now they’re working. Oh work is too hard and stressing you out? Too bad. You wanted to be career whores, right ? Enjoy. If you give women what they ask for, they still want more. Who cares if they’re stressed out? They can always get dicked down and take some of the edge off. Men can’t get sex whenever they “feel” like it. Nobody cares what you whores think or feel any more.
Damn. That’s some pretty intense boner rage there, dude.
Yeah, I’m here! Just home from work.
If you want some cute, here’s Maddie doing her Egyptian Goddess On A Barge impersonation:
http://i.imgur.com/y9b9nmd.jpg
brb, got to go shower ‘fore dinner
@ Argenti
What seems to really get under his skin is snarky contempt, being deemed utterly unimportant. Give it a shot!
I’m too fuming lay angry for snark. Mads’s “huh, this isn’t a seat?” thing is adorable though.
But yeah, Jaro’s billions of layers of fucked up, I need to logic this…
1) Says a bunch of shit about how maybe rape is less bad if only psychological harm
2) Gets all cranky that we won’t debate if maybe he’s right
2b) must be because liberals go STFU at disagreeing opinions
3) no really guys, my excuse is OCD
3b) I obsess over raping people!
3c) definitely, this is distressing to him
4) no wait, I keep slanging shit that’ll upset people, just to upset them
Harm-OCD per his words means he obsesses over doing others harm — hey, okay, had a fling with someone who legit had that problem…and took meds and only ever mentioned it at all to reassure me that no, my crazy is a problem…aka not Jaro, at all. Legit distressed by obsessive thoughts of doing harm, versus all over the internet…
All over the internet doing what?!
“Debating” over whether rape is inherently harmful, everything about his probably nonexistent girlfriend…all the other shit that he now says he doesn’t believe.
He’s fucking full of it, he’s not goddamned distressed by to idea of causing others harm, he goddamned enjoys it. He can claim all day that he’s compelled to do it, but it here isn’t checking the door locks or something, his goddamned compulsion here is the harming people.
I’d call him a bottom feeder, but I’m watching some and would never insult them by making such a comparison (plec’s nocturnal)
I don’t believe for a second that he has any compulsion, unless compulsive trolling is going to be listed in the new DSM.
OCD definition compulsion, no. Standard definition? I’m angry enough to think that he feels compelled to hurt people and thinks that it less harmful to cause people anger and hand wave at the idea that the topic might be painful. Like “I want to rape people, I’ll get arrested, well how bad is it if it isn’t physically damaging? Let me ask a bunch of people and then complain when they tell me to STFU”
Right now I wish he had one of the common compulsions and was washing his hands or checking locks or something. At best he’s subliminating his desires to hurt people (specifically, it seems, rape people) by discussing whether that’s harmful to his would be victims, at worst he’s looking to excuse what he’s already done // trying to excuse what he wants to do.
I’m half inclined to think he’s a low-grade sadist, one with no ethics but a dose of cowardice about being caught, and a dose of indignation that what he wants to do is illegal.
Definitely an insult to bottom feeders ::waves at Plec the Lord of Darkness::. I was thinking maybe bottom-feeders’ shit, but no way could any bottom-feeder produce anything as gross as trolls.
Oh, he wants to hurt people, but in the standard troll way, ie. poking people’s vulnerable spots until they get upset and then chortling in glee. The other stuff? Dude’s lying. He’s also trying to edge towards the idea that posting comments designed to upset people is a legit mental illness and therefore we shouldn’t blame people for doing it. Which I’ll grant makes him smarter than the average troll. But compulsive? Nope, his behavior isn’t compulsive at all, it’s rather calculating.
Argh, I really should reread the thread before ranting.
“Has David been contacted? Honestly, jaro sounds a lot like he’s trying to legitimize rape and his fantasies.
It made my blood run cold, and I’m used to reading a lot of vile shit and I’m not a rape survivor.”
Yeah, me too, and I am, and I’m drunk. (And meeting new-psych in ~13 hours…I should sleep)
To be clearer – he’s made it clear that he’s been lurking for a while, and I think he picked rape as a topic because he knew there were survivors here and wanted to upset them. The latest whinge is just more manipulation in an attempt to keep the conversation going so he can continue wanking to the upset response. He’s not mentally ill, he’s just an asshole.
I refuse to give him the benefit of the doubt that the rape apologia that got him modded was just being used to push buttons. You’re welcome to, and you might be right, but it’s like ABNOY’s pro-pedo shit. Anyone saying that, for any reason, finds it acceptable enough to joke about. And that is Not Okay.
“I was thinking maybe bottom-feeders’ shit, but no way could any bottom-feeder produce anything as gross as trolls.”
…no, that’s perfect. Utterly gross comment ahead! Cleaning the filter for plec’s tank means scraping sheets of brown goo off sponges. After the biological filtration breaks down the shit it turns into a phlegm like, brown, horrid, smelly, mess. That comes off in sheets if not cleaned often enough.
So yes, bottom feeder shit is every bit as repulsive as our trolls.
“…he picked rape as a topic because he knew there were survivors here and wanted to upset them.”
Well yes, but even as just a “hahah this will upset you” it’s way too close to, well, exactly what he said. The “debate” that got him modded was over whether rape is harmful if the damage is only psychological. The implication being the usual shit abut how people psychologically harmed by rape are oversensitive, cuz hey, at least no bones where broken! Now that’s serious!
There’s very little difference between:
A) rape survivors getting upset over me calling some rape not serious is funny
B) rape is not serious
I mean, if pecunium where still up, or I less angry (or more sober), that’s a damned logical progression. I’d get all formal logic on those premises, but drunk.
“He’s not mentally ill, he’s just an asshole.”
Abso-fucking-lutely
Whoot! I haz stumbled upon the perfect troll description!
I think the little bottom-feeder-shitstain is doing both. I mean, I think he’s trying to distress survivors, but I think, like Pecunium (?) said upthread, his Id is showing, too. I don’t think it’s only that there are survivors here, that made him pick that particular subject.
He disgusted me enough to contact Dave. Granted I’m usually ready to Click The Big Head (I have never bought into the “no dobbing” idiocy of my culture) anyway, but this one was lower than average. Tank-bottom-phlegm indeed.
Aaaaand ninjaed!
Hey, thanks guys, I should get to bed though. It’s getting early here (it was late 3 hours ago, it’s 5 am now)
G’night
Niters, Argenti.
Yes, you have to think rape isn’t a big deal to do what he did. My point is that his comment about OCD wasn’t a confession, it was a manipulative attempt to prolong both the conversation and his stay here.
You know what frosts my flakes? Evil dipshits like Jaro who take advantage of the decent, well meaning people here and shit all over them. No one wants to call out his bullshit as fake, because what if it’s not, and they are banking on that. It’s a straight-up asshole move.
And he’s a chickenshit. If we assume (arguendo) he has some sort of diagnosable compulsion, which he knows about and hates (as he says), he knows about it, and he hates it, and he doesn’t want to do it, and he believes none of it.
And he was lurking.
Take all of those as given a priori. Then he knows how people will treat him if he confesses to it, up front; when he makes his appearance. But he didn’t do that. He pissed in the soup, and then got all defensive.
So what he wanted to do was what he did. Set himself up as a semi-outsider, slip in some asshole, get accused of being a sock (regardless of any actual socking),and then go over the top.
But he didn’t have the courage to stick to it. When he got serious pushback he was all, “it’s not my fault, “The Crazy” made me do it. I didn’t wanna, and I don’t believe it; this time I’m telling the truth why won’t you believe me.”
Which is the bottom line in the Chorus of Pathetic Assholes. He won’t even own his shit. He has to palm it off onto some nebulous state of non-control. That’s sad. He has to try to move the right to be indignant not at our being wrong (because he has confessed to knowing we are right) but to pretending we aren’t being accepting of his illness.
As I said before, Why should I care? He says he knew it was both factually wrong, and morally wrong, and yet he chose to do it.
He admits he chose to harm others, knowing it was harmful. And he wants us to feel sorry for him, because of it.
That’s pathetic.
I’m obsessively bored with Jaro, and compulsively not giving a shit about his “problems.” If he ever tries anything I hope he gets a good tazering and/or the crap beat out of him.
I think what Fade said was pretty on-point. Whether or not Jaro is lying about his mental health is irrelevant to the fact that his behaviour was appalling. I generally try to take people at their word about this sort of thing (unless it’s absolutely unbelievable) but ultimately it doesn’t matter whether some of us choose to believe him or not. It doesn’t make what he’s done even marginally more understandable.
Cassandra — yeah, and now that I’m sober (well, hungover, but let’s just ignore that I feel like shit) — he’s been one manipulation attempt after another, and his shit is showing if he thinks this little charade is any different.
And I wish I was still fuming at him, it was far easier to deal with than everything else taking up residence in my brain.
Re: pecunium — “it’s not my fault, “The Crazy” made me do it.”
Yeah, therein lies a good bit of why he’s still under my skin. Someone slap me if I ever act like that and then claim it isn’t my fault just cuz I’m nuts. Thank you. (Also, someone please come take away the tea I was putting booze in last night, the smell is not helping my stomach. Thank you!)
And what Viscaria said — I just don’t care, doesn’t make it less repulsive.
Bagelsan — “I’m obsessively bored with Jaro, and compulsively not giving a shit about his “problems.” If he ever tries anything I hope he gets a good tazering and/or the crap beat out of him.”
*dies* yes!
@kitteh’s yeah, I’ll note too that he includes anger in his tirade about his girlfriend, which is totally justified because he is ENSLAVED but her anger over his cheating is like, totes irrational. Obviously cheating isn’t a warrant for abuse, but that’s yet another reason why he should break up with his (possibly imaginary, especially since he admitted to lying about other shit) girlfriend.
Emotions are bad and irrational unless they’re HIS boner-rage emotions of feeling cheated out of a HB4 (at least!).
As for the rest of it… FUUUUUUCK. I don’t even know where to start with that horrible mess, except to say, Jaro, seriously get help, and until you do, stop trying to turn this space into your own personal therapy group. And stop trying to use ableism as a cop out for the horrible shit you spew.
That is of course, assuming he isn’t a sock, which I’m rather hard pressed to believe, given that barely a few posts after someone thought he might be Diogenes, Diogenes showed up out of nowhere to say “no really, this Jaro character isn’t one of my socks!” Here’s a thought, if you don’t want people to think you’re someone else’s sock, making the original show up to decry that the sock isn’t his is a surefire way to make things look really fishy. Which fits, I guess, since the consensus here seems to be that trolls are fish poop.
I think we can add the “but you see I’m crazy and you people should understand why I can’t help it” to the list of reasons why this person is completely toxic in the rare moments where he’s not boring the crap out of everyone.
I don’t like seeing assholes using other people’s compassion and decency against them.
“Which fits, I guess, since the consensus here seems to be that trolls are fish poop.”
The fact that Argenti included the word phlegm when ze described bottom-feeder poop makes it perfect. Feces and phlegm, yup, that’s about gross enough to describe these trolls. Come to that it describes the whole MRM.