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Manosphere misogynists: Perpetually angry that women can say no?

Women: Not obliged to say "yes."
Women: Not obliged to say “yes.”

I‘m beginning to wonder if every single complaint from manosphere misogynists comes back to their rage at the fact that women get to decide who can have sex with them. Take the following comment from MGTOWforums.com. The ostensible topic of conversation? A study reporting that women tend to feel more stressed than men at work. Watch how deftly MGTOWforums “senior member” 7 Deadly Sins turns the topic from “women in the workplace” to “my sad penis.”

They wanted to work so now they’re working. Oh work is too hard and stressing you out? Too bad. You wanted to be career whores, right ? Enjoy. If you give women what they ask for, they still want more. Who cares if they’re stressed out? They can always get dicked down and take some of the edge off. Men can’t get sex whenever they “feel” like it. Nobody cares what you whores think or feel any more. 

Damn. That’s some pretty intense boner rage there, dude.

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Shadow
Shadow
11 years ago

If libido could be completely satisfied by achieving orgasms through masturbation why does it even exist? It’s raison d’etre is to compel people to have sex together.

Evolution: u’re learning it wrong

pillowinhell
11 years ago

Well, here’s an article in the paper that will have NWO frothing. Its all about a study done that shows women CEO’s make better decisions, strive for a fair bargain for everyone involved, have better team work skills AND are more likely to see new solutions and therefore new opportunities.

It also notes that women in these positions are outnumbered by male counterparts three to one.

pillowinhell
11 years ago

Oh, and here’s another one about how people spend more time and attention educating little girls than little boys about toddler age.

This is something I find unfortunate, and it needs to stop.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

@ thenatfantastic

I want to see if the fact that Luisa can’t help laughing during 2 of the 3 sex scenes, and the reason why she’s laughing, will provoke RAGE. But yes, the bit that you’re talking about is also fun to watch.

If I find Bernal more attractive than Luna even though Luna is much taller (and in that movie richer) is that misandry or do I get a cookie of my very own for not being hypergamous?

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
11 years ago

So anyone willing to take a punt at why Jaro describes the XKCD comic he linked to as rape apologism? I’m stumped.

@CassandraSays I don’t really find either of them melt-your-pants-off sexy. But both of them together? Be still my beating vagina. Yeah, explain THAT, evo-psych.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Slash and yaoi and hot guys making out as a thing women like in general, confusing the hell out of sexist dudes since at least the 70s, because it’s never occurred to them to ask women why they like it instead of trying to figure it out via what beetles or baboons do.

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
11 years ago

I’ve been meaning to ask what yaoi is. I’m terrified to google it.

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

@viscaria

I wonder if it’s partially based on the fact that they don’t bother distinguishing us from one another. Maybe some douchebro named Bob thinks it’s deeply unfair that he, Bob, cannot have sex on demand, but Woman-the-Collective can. I might not be having sex, but Elspeth two blocks over is totally getting it on, and it’s kind of the same because we’re both part of the indistinguishable mass of Womanhood.

That would explain a lot.

@Jaro

I’m also skeptical that acceptable-looking women can’t practically get sex whenever they want with a wide range of possible partners (ok, lesbians excluded, I feel for them)

O_o Not going to touch your cliched arguments, but I don’t want your feels, bub.

Saying it repetitively doesn’t make it true.

*channeling mra*: bu-bu…how will we make arguments now?

@cassandrasays

Ancient proverb (that I just made up) says “Man goes to sleep with sexual problem in mind, wakes up with solution in hand”.

XD This amused me too much.

Some people will of course look great in anything, but I maintain that super high rises aren’t very flattering at all on most people..

I…my brain keeps reading that as she has a super long crotch. And her legs are also dislocated.

…sexy?

I think I’ve found what styles are not for me XD

@melody

I want to be thinner though. I am chubby. I have moments where I really feel like I’m pretty and I have moments of complete body hate. My dad constantly nags me about my weight. My mom bought me a gym membership for my birthday.
I’m not nearly as active as I used to be.

Gah. Hugs if wanted.

@hrovintir

I am starting to be sold on high waisted shorts sucking, to be honest. I looked up pictures, and it seems it only really works as dress ups.

Weid that the links you posted I ended up liking 😛 different tastes I guess XD

@Viscaria

My feelings about my body and the disordered eating patterns that can sometimes come with them seem to be very connected to my overall mental health.

Internet hugs if you want. That sounds hard to go through.

@jaro

o increase population it was important to suppress female control of female fertility (1) and not to discourage sex

O_o Judging you.

Also could we please refrain to equate libido with an unpleasant feeling you quell by stroking your [insert applicable body part]? Kthx.

Wait, those feelings were supposed to be unpleasant? I’ve been doing it wrong this whole time!

I’m not sexist! Just last week a fellow female student showed me some code she wrote that mysteriously (or not that mysteriously, actually…) didn’t work

Dude, if you want to at least pretend not to be sexist, stop calling women females.

Now, do I really need to refute this argument? Ok, one hint: what’s perceived as comical isn’t often realistic.

*headdesk*

@thenatfantiastic

I mean, you’re not a sexist so there must be something I’ve missed. Are coders statistically proven to be good at cooking? If they are I have a lot of friends who now owe me dinner.)

If this is true my brother definitely owes me dinner 😛

@jaro

I just demand the fundamental human right for life for being so nice, because Etienne Dufour even wants to deny me that.

I’m confused. I confess I’m kind of skimming here, but is someone trying to kill you? Take away your rights? cuz I haven’t seen any of that happen yet.

I’m still unimpressed, what about what transitioning trans* people tell us about their libido? MTF: down. FTM: up (on average)

…bwuh. Are you trans*? Or, more accurately, are you a monolith of all trans* people ever, and their respective libidos?

Just have a look at modern Western women, they are even too fussy to dismantle a chicken

This I know is a lie. I’ve seen both my mom and my sister pulling the skin of chickens themselves, and it’s not a terribly pretty site. I don’t do it, but this still means 2/3s of the women in my house do, so….

No. You. Are. Not. You are not linking to rape apologist web comics, are you?

…I may have missed it, but how is this rape apologia?

and this comment is too long as it is. Sorry for posting before finishing. Sort of. I do that all the time, so if it’s bugging someone, feel free to speak up 🙂

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
11 years ago

@thenatfantastic I do remember some wank intense debate about that comic when it came out, and whether it was promoting the Nice Guy meme or criticizing it. But I also seem to recall Randall (the creator) saying he did’t mean it to be pro-Nice Guy and that he understood why that meme is problematic – so while I’m sure people can be, and are, upset by it, I also suspect that Jaro is playing SJW “gotcha” or making fun of ~oversensitive~ feminists or something similarly disingenuous.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
11 years ago

Also, is this the thread where LBT mentioned asking for someone’s Thoughts On Yaoi? I wanted to acknowledge my fellow Wanka.

Jaro
Jaro
11 years ago

@hellkell:

Now he’s brining evo-psych into it, a sure sign of a fool and a complete dipshit (non-exquisite variety).

Yes, it’s horrible. The idea that the reason why sex drive exists is that it compels people to have sex and so to procreate — complete dipshit. In a few minutes some idiot will come along and tell us that we feel hunger so that we don’t starve and die.

@emilygoddess:

Still waiting for Jaro to explain how actually backing his shit up is derailing…

I quote Derailing for Dummies: “If you really want to excel as a Privileged Person® you need to learn to value data, statistics, research studies and empirical evidence above all things, but especially above Lived Experience©.”

@Dvärghundspossen: a lot of evo-psych are ridiculous and that’s recognizable even for a layman like me (yeah, I admit it, now go for my throat). But what people here pretend is that they like, studied philosophy of science and biology for a few years (and no, that’s not actually the case) and that it’s their well-founded, personal opinion that evo-psych is 100% wrong (while in reality even the most uncontroversial parts just threaten their pet ideology).
For me, from a common-sense point of view, it’s just outright denial if you claim that you can’t even explain the most fundamental urges with evo-psych.

@CassandraSays:

C’mon, you guys, we should at least give Jaro a small cookie. He knows how to make curry! Probably not a very exciting curry, but yay, he has mastered a skill that I already had by my mid teens. Now he just has to learn how to do his own laundry and he’ll almost be a functional adult.

Irony really dies online, I’ll never learn. But Cassandra, I can also make a true Bavarian cream, can you do that? (admittedly my most advanced dessert… ;-)) oh, I forgot, you’re supposed to be plonked.

@thenatfantastic:

Y’all need to decide whether dudes are hopelessly hormonal thus NEED sex, or women are so gosh-durn hormonal that they can’t even be trusted to run their own finances because their oestrogen-addled little brains couldn’t cope.

Maybe T and oestrogen have different effects?

@Shadow:

Evolution: u’re learning it wrong

But you would say that, wouldn’t you?

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

@jaro

I now dare to use an evo-psych argument (feel free to criticize that as an unscientific just-so stories or whatever): If libido could be completely satisfied by achieving orgasms through masturbation why does it even exist? It’s raison d’etre is to compel people to have sex together.

Yeah Jaro, and I’m sure it’s nice to have sex with other people* but you can’t do that all the time. I mean, sometimes, even when partnered up, your partner may say no. And then if you are still horny there is a solution.

*I mean, I assume 😛 Virgin here. XD

@thenatfantastic

I’ve been meaning to ask what yaoi is. I’m terrified to google it.

Never found an official definition, but to me it just seemed like pictures or w/e of sexy/ pretty men making out or other stuff. *shrugs*

@jaro

Yes, it’s horrible. The idea that the reason why sex drive exists is that it compels people to have sex and so to procreate — complete dipshit.

um, if I tried to make a baby every time I libido’ed, I would have plenty by now… this theory seems a little flawed. Cuz if I had them, in this evo psych bullshit, I still wouldn’t have resources to care for them.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Jaro: you are a complete dipshit, thanks for proving it with every comment. Your mangling of Derailing for Dummies and social justice term fuckery proves it even more.

Why dont you go off an try to come up with better material? You’re weak sauce, bro.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

In a few minutes some idiot will come along and tell us that we feel hunger so that we don’t starve and die.

You’re an idiot, and you just did, so thanks?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Oh, dear, it seems that Jaro is unable to stick to his vow to not talk to me. Whatever shall I do now?

My libido doesn’t seem to want me to make babies, since it tends to be strongest at the point in my cycle where I’m least likely to get pregnant.

Fade
11 years ago

I forget, what was Jaro’s original argument? I mean he seems to be really going on this “libido only exists so straight and cis men and women can have sex with with each other”, but how did it start?

Nvm, found his first comment (I think) myself

Late to the party… 🙁 still, here we go again, instead of acknowledging the obvious, only denial. Why, oh why, just can’t we admit that the libido disparity might be the cause for his rage boner and not the rage boner causing him to imagine this disparity? Only cultures mentally preparing for Armageddon, like early modern Europe and now partially contemporary Western culture are in denial about something so fundamental.

I’m also skeptical that acceptable-looking women can’t practically get sex whenever they want with a wide range of possible partners (ok, lesbians excluded, I feel for them). Sure, stated that way, the claim is vulnerable to be refuted by personal stories or the odd verifiable counterexample… well I don’t care, as a rule of thumb it remains true. And since it’s derailing to argue with research studies, I’m keeping it anecdotal, too.

Google Image search “Bethany McKee”. Even this nasty, obese cow (I really would like to slip in some ableist slurs here… something with chromosomes…) managed to lure two beautiful black boys to her house by the promise of sex. Now the two beautiful black boys are dead. Is there a more powerful image to illustrate the hard reality?

Okay, so ignoring the fuckedupness with the worst thing about a women killing two kids is that she’s fat, was his shtick pretty much “bitches won’t fuck me and here’s why its justified to whine?”

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Fade: Also, let’s not overlook Jaro’s totally repulsive use of the word “boy” when describing two black men. No racist connotations there, no siree. Totes gives lie to his man of the people (except bitches) schtick.

Fade
11 years ago

Those were men?! I didn’t read the article, so I assumed they were 8 or 9 year old… boys.

Gah, that is even worse.

Fade
11 years ago

^even worse in terms of his comment, not in terms that kids didn’t die, just for the clarification

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Nope, both victims were 22. Jaro seems to be determined to hit every point on the asshole spectrum.

Fade
11 years ago

@CassandraSays

Show me for taking anything a troll says as true. 😐

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

I’m with fade in that I assumed they were still kids/ teens from his phrasing :/ Bad troll, bad.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
11 years ago

Yeah, 22 isn’t really “boy” territory anymore, especially when the phrase is already loaded.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

” It’s [sic] raison d’etre is to compel people to have sex together.”

Compel? Compel? FAIL, it doesn’t compel anything. Don’t try pulling that line of shit. Nobody is compelled to have sex, creep.

Marie – “I…my brain keeps reading that as she has a super long crotch. And her legs are also dislocated. ” That’s how I read it!

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

@kittehs

Thank god I wasn’t the only one XD

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