I‘m beginning to wonder if every single complaint from manosphere misogynists comes back to their rage at the fact that women get to decide who can have sex with them. Take the following comment from MGTOWforums.com. The ostensible topic of conversation? A study reporting that women tend to feel more stressed than men at work. Watch how deftly MGTOWforums “senior member” 7 Deadly Sins turns the topic from “women in the workplace” to “my sad penis.”
They wanted to work so now they’re working. Oh work is too hard and stressing you out? Too bad. You wanted to be career whores, right ? Enjoy. If you give women what they ask for, they still want more. Who cares if they’re stressed out? They can always get dicked down and take some of the edge off. Men can’t get sex whenever they “feel” like it. Nobody cares what you whores think or feel any more.
Damn. That’s some pretty intense boner rage there, dude.
“I seem to recall I had to make room for Argenti…”
Yes… *goes to corner of shame*
“Cassandra – if you wanted a really bad look you could do the jeans hitched up and add a pair of braces.”
Two words: Doctor Who.
Cassandra – I really like men’s jeans because they’re thicker and double stitched and just better. But they generally have large amounts of ball room, or are way too tight in the thighs. 🙁 Whereas women’s jeans are shittily made with tiny pockets but have stretch. Bleh.
Re: somatotypes, bearing in mind that basically endomorph = fast metabolism, difficulty building muscle and gaining fat. Mesomorph = gains muscle fairly quickly but not fat. Endomorph = slow metabolism, gains muscle and fat quickly. People generally fall somewhere on a continuum between ecto- and endomorph, and depending what you do with your body ectomorphs can be fat or muscular and endomorphs can be slim, though obviously there is a limit.
SO. I learnt about such things via bodybuilding. Meaning my mental image is the first picture… and we’re being shown the 2nd. And I’m thinking O_o
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Rr8cWu8nIgc/Ty9Liwe8P2I/AAAAAAAABIY/xfDNAbUcKVg/s1600/Somatotype-Men.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ibzEFz0gISs/Tyfgf4aRsuI/AAAAAAAAAJc/f-nrk0GeSwU/s1600/types.jpeg
😀 😀
Well, theoretically it’s just meant to be a factor in attraction. But I can’t help but feel there is SO MUCH MORE going on with attraction that it’s completely pointless to try and figure out.
lowquacks | March 26, 2013 at 5:09 am
@hrovitnir
Nobody quite understands how I weigh what I weigh, either. Very dense bones? Some weird cyst thing? Who knows.
I’m still trying. I wish I could make graphic design-y things of people!
@ lowquacks
People who weigh more than they look like they do fistbump. People always underestimate my weight by at least 20 pounds. My best friend used to joke that my bones were made of lead.
Most of the jeans I like are a 60/40 cotton/poly blend, so they stretch a tiny bit, but really only enough to let you move, so they retain their shape and don’t stretch out or get baggy over the course of the day at all. I like the fabric to be at least 12 oz denim too – I don’t like the way thin jeans hang.
lowquacks – ::fans self:: 😉
Just don’t you or your brother do the look like that Costa bloke from Gardening Australia! That beard makes me want to get the pruning shears out.
Hrovitnir – I don’t understand a thing about hip waist ratios. Do I exist if I’ve a 101 cm waist and 114 cm hips? And if I like a man who’s shortish, slimmish but has a nice comfy little set of love-handles?
The technology’s there! Collab with an IT department and pay some poor undergraduate students a pittance to dress up in Andy Serkis gear.
Do they ever, ever, consider that personality plays a part? Sometimes the overwhelming part, whether or not one feels primary sexual attraction?
@Kittehs
Brother’s beard is brown and dad’s is grey, but give either enough time (probably more for brother) and I actually think they could manage. My beard’s neckline naturally comes up far higher and would probably look awful long – bit of a Ryan Reynolds/off-duty Louis Theroux look.
(Bah, blockquote monster -_-)
Oh and lowquacks – I really do think I approve of your proportions. 😀 My partner’s 70-75kg, not quite 6′, 32″ waist and rather bigger shoulders – pretty close to pure ectomorph with a million years of weights meaning he retains biggish shoulders.
So imagining someone with BIGGER shoulders and a SMALLER waist, and a round butt… is pretty epic. 😀
@ hrovitnir
You know, raw selvege denim for women does exist, and that sounds more like what you want (heavy, no stretch at all, but will eventually confirm to your body the way a pair of leather shoes will). However, some issues.
A. The only companies I know currently making it for women are in Japan, so sizing isn’t going to go above maybe a US 10.
B. It’s expensive – at least $250 a pair
C Breaking it in might be even more of a pain in the ass than breaking in shoes. It certainly takes longer.
@CassandraSays
Doesn’t Nudie have a women’s line that’s quite well regarded? Not a jeans expert at all here. Dunno if this is the case overseas but there was a place up in Sydney that had lots of pairs of very light worn raw denim from owners who had given up really early at pretty decent prices – cheaper than anything new and decent, certainly. I nearly got a pair of lovely Nudies there but the cardboard feeling was a bit much for me.
Haha. It’s a percentage. So you have a WHR of 0.88. Mine’s pretty similar. But I guarantee you we look totally different, because fat and muscle distribution varies so much!
Yeah, it’s mentioned. I honestly do not understand the point of researching something that has so little practical application. I’m all for figuring stuff out for the sake of it! But I can’t see how biologically mediated sexual selection in modern humans accounts for any significant percentage of how people get into relationships.
It’s not like we can measure genetic success any more is it?!
OK I am far too amused by this.
I just caught up with those pics of the endo-, ecto- and mesomorphs. The second ones are what I’ve seen, pretty much, in the Encyclopaedia Britannica (c. 1980). The first ones … well, not being into the body-building at all, my first reaction was *boggle* and the second was *nooo*. 😉
Yeah, I’m not patient enough for that. 😀 And my body changes shape too much for me to go there. And considering high quality jeans average $200+ in NZ, and I believe $50 is a good pair of jeans in the US? I can’t imagine what a US$250 pair of jeans would end up here. O_O
Eh, they’re OK, but the quality isn’t anything like as good as any of the Japanese lines. Sizing is obviously going to be an issue for people outside that market, though, and also proportions (anything produced in Japan is going to be narrow in the hips and lean in the thighs).
You’d probably need to be an evo-psych devotee or an MRA to *cough*understand*cough* it.
@hrovitnir
The shit I did for course credit in my PSYCH1001 course. . .
I did take part in a few sociological focus groups for extra cash, and they’re great fun. One was on how youth sexting works out, and I talked a lot on that and the [women perceived to be of loose morals in lowquacks’ general location.tumblr.com] that I’d been so disgusted by. Wish the laws weren’t as stringent here and I could be paid for blood/semen/lots of focus groups.
Haha! The bodybuilding one kind of shows what happens if you are all aiming for the same thing, and dedicating your whole life to your diet and weights regime. So is kind of a better measure of difference.
OTOH the nice thing about the “fat” body type is it shows that some body types do NOT want to have low body fat. A very active person with a very clean diet (ie: mostly whole foods, good macronutrient ratios) will not be as large as those pictures probably but they certainly will not look like we’re told we (men and women) should look like!
Not that that will be the take away for anyone, methinks.
Premium denim here averages $150-250. What puts me off going out and getting tons of raw selvege denim is the wearing in issue – I know a guy who has the most gorgeous pair of jeans I’ve ever seen, but he wore them in for 3 months without washing them to get them that way. I’m way too much of a germ-phobe for that.
@hrovitnir
People used to REALLY be off with my weight in high school. People would guess 40-50lb off from my actual weight. I am tallish 5’9”.
I don’t think most people understand what women weigh at all. People would tell me I was lying if I told them my weight. Apparently, you can’t be a size 6 and 165lbs.
“(ie: mostly whole foods, good macronutrient ratios)”
I read that as good malcontent ratios. 😛
Also what about body language? I’ve noticed that a lot of the men I’m most attracted to share some obvious characteristics in terms of how they move, which isn’t really a personality thing but isn’t body type either.
Haha! We do have some of the machines at uni that show where your eyes go on an image in the 0.02s before your brain kicks in and I wanna play with those.
Also, my partner works with a dude who got to take LSD for a study in the 70s: oh, the good old days. 😀
“We do have some of the machines at uni that show where your eyes go on an image in the 0.02s before your brain kicks in and I wanna play with those.”
Depends on the image …
/fifteen-year-old
@CassandraSays
Raw-denim devotee friends of mine say you can kill germs by hanging your jeans up in a freezer, or rolling them up in one, and leaving them overnight. Honestly I’ll still with op-shop chinos and 511’s from the USA, but that’s what they say.
I’m interested in how it costs that much – Levi’s or Cheap Monday jeans, which seem to be thought of as cheap over your way, cost $90-150+ here. It actually costs less to get jeans shipped from the USA if I buy them new. The only real widely available premium jeans here are Nudie and (surf-oriented) Ksubi, for men anyway, so I guess we’re a bit of a casual-fashion wasteland.