So we’ve been talking a lot about the MRA response to the Adria Richards firing over the past few days, but (like a lot of the regulars here, I suspect) I’ve had one lingering question in my mind: what does eminent MRA philosopher Cooter Bee think about all of this? Well I am pleased to report that Mr. Bee has finally weighed in on the subject in a comment over on The Spearhead.
Always a model of thoughtfulness and restraint, Mr. Bee suggests that the best way to deal with the problem of women in technology – rightfully a man’s place – is for men in tech to go on a giant man strike until civilization starts to crumble:
Tech makes female jobs possible. Feminism couldn’t manage without tech. Would it be possible to attack tech and bring it down?
Not talking attack as in military operation but perhaps key males within the industry could be recruited and persuaded not to produce. After all, does anybody really think that any of the current fruits of civilization come from the female mind? Agitate against HB1 visa’s to further weaken it. Eventually, government and other powder puff industries won’t able to replace their dilapidated equipment. Where will the make-work female jobs go when there are no computers? The police state? How effective can it be with pencil, paper and shoe leather alone?
Other Spearheaders have equally enlightened and enlightening thoughts on the matter. Richard attacks women for both getting jobs in technology and for (allegedly) preferring doctors and lawyers over tech geeks.
Women are deadly to hire. Women really have no place in tech. Harsh? Perhaps.
But imagine if all the man-hours (perhaps billions worth) that has gone into soothing (the ultimately un-soothable) grrrrls’ feelings rather than genuine productivity.
And for all the women who hate the sexist men in tech, what about the sexist discrimination by women against tech men vs. say lawyers or doctors?
I’m not quite sure how not liking sexist men in tech counts as sexist discrimination, but I have to admit that I am baffled by some of the more sophisticated forms of MRA logic.
Another commenter who goes by the name David F – and whom I should point out is NOT ME NO WHY DOES HE CALL HIMSELF THAT UGH UGH IT MAKES ME EMBARRASSED FOR ALL DAVIDS WHOSE LAST NAMES START WITH AN F WAIT WHAT WAS I TALKING ABOUT SORRY THIS SENTENCE HAS GOTTEN AWAY FROM ME. Anyway, David F Who is Not Me repeats and elaborates upon an argument first made by Daflory over on A Voice for Men, which makes me think that they are in fact the same person and that David F’s last name is Flory (not Futrelle I repeat NOT Futrelle):
No one ever told Adria Richards that she was at best only an tolerated guest in the world of tech, and she could either play by male rules and contribute, or get lost. Hopefully other feminists in tech will get a similar message.
This and the Anita Sarkeesian affair suggests that hatred for feminism runs very deep in the tech world, and that a great many men and boys are willing and able to protect their domain against hostile intruders. The white-knight tech articles have made themselves ridiculous from the flood of hostile comments they generate. I think it is only a matter of time before some tech sites throw feminism under the bus. It’s not as if they really need women for anything, and if tech writers come to accept that they won’t get sex by pandering to women, what else do they have to lose?
Opus – who I am pretty sure is not actually the penguin from Bloom County – wonders why useless women go to conferences in the first place, and comes up with this explanation:
I can only conclude that women attend conferences for the purpose of being outraged and to shame any unsuspecting male. Is it any wonder men seek to work in female-free environments if at all possible.
Former Man Boobz Troll of the Year NWOslave steps up with some observations that may bring back fond memories of his many contributions to the discourse here at Man Boobz:
Western women, at least in the social media circles, seem to be hell bent on proving women have the mental and emotional fortitude of a four year old girl. Adria Richards and the media backlash is clear proof that women are incapable of functioning more than an arms length from the safety of the nest.
Joeb, meanwhile, offers these cogent thoughts:
The 800 LBs feminist beast in the room is; This women (Adria Richards) is not there to conform to Company norms and a real life work scenario .
She wants to work on her own terms . Off course those terms are the void of all physical and mentally tiring duty’s like actual work .
Its like this , Iv seen Feminist tech write blogs about tech Jobs not because they where technicians , They write blogs because they failed out of the technician Jobs . ( there opinion is useless )
Women want the administration duty’s of the Job but , The power structure changes when you have well trained men doing the work .
You can’t have a women with a BA from POO dunk business college telling a male scientist from MTI how to do his JOB .
Its another feminist leach on the privet sector . Get to many of these leaches and it sucks the life from the Corp.
After reading all these very thoughtful comments from the Spearhead men — and I didn’t even include the openly racist ones or the ones that used the c-word — I’m not sure how anyone could doubt male superiority, in tech and in everything else.
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I would really, really like MRAs to menstruate. Dysmenorrhea is a curse I could quite happily put on them.
I’d laugh my ass off if these delicate flowers ever got a period. Oh, the whining! I’d be sure to invest in Motrin and Midol.
It would be laughage plus reading the whining. And think of how they’d whimper that they don’t get five days’ sick leave a month (amazingly enough, just like women don’t).
The entire concept of keypunch operators who were 90% women transitioning into coders is unknown to the MRAs. Tech boys sprang, sprung, leapt, erupted?? fully formed from their parents basements. heh
It is true though that once the job started to pay a decent wage it was taken over by the d00dz. Because that is how that works.
You what this thread needs? More cute.*
*The black and white kitty impersonating a statue is Meg, who is notoriously camera-shy.
@Nerdy Pants: Just a slight correction:
Unless you’re suggestion that mutliple women only earned one BA, it should probably be “a woman with a BA” or “women with BAs.” the second thing is that the word is “Podunk” not “Poo dunk.”
Lovely, and I managed to type suggestion instead of suggesting.
And before that, human computers (people hired to perform complex calculations) were often women. They were involved in many high-profile math and science outfits, including the Manhattan Project.
Squee! So is Lilly the tricolour kitty?
I like the way hoomin’s legs are in imminent danger of being pushed off the couch.
I was going to say, “They can’t spell.” However, other commentators have already noted the fact.
shameless cuteness
Kitteh’s, the tri-color baby is Mimi. Lilly is the fat grey and she’s on her own chair sacked out. Mr. HK vacuumed the furniture today, so she’s all over it, of course.
Kitty belly!
@kittehs
So cute! *dies* <3
Yes, let’s sabotage the entirety of the tech industry just for the sake of spiting women. That is a perfectly rational reaction.
“I would really, really like MRAs to menstruate. Dysmenorrhea is a curse I could quite happily put on them.”
Most MEN will go to work with a limb falling off. It is a proven fact that females miss more work than MEN. I don’t think STI’s are a valid excuse to miss work.
@Baronincognito: Nooo, don’t do this to me!
*resists the urge to redo it all with your corrections*
Though on the plus side, I didn’t know that about the word “Podunk”, thanks 🙂
So you have four kitties, hellkell? ::envy envy envy::
That’s the Great White Belleh of Mads. She shows it off at every opportunity. 🙂
I think Poo Dunk’s an excellent description of what MRAs spend their time doing.
Sleepy puppies falling out of their basket:
http://myrifalcon.tumblr.com/post/46001527867/unos-hijos-asi
Kitteh’s: yeah we have four, we’re totally those people!
Thought experiment:
Is it ok for a male BA from Podunk business college to supervise a female scientist from MIT?
Also I think business schools award master’s degrees (MBA) not BA.
It’s certainly better than having the scientist supervise and the person from business school do the experiments.
my dog sleeps funny:
I am kinda mystified by how a bunch of techies magically turned into scientists by going to MIT and no longer need pay any attention to administrators.