Well, I have to give the terrible, terrible fellows at PUAhate credit for one thing: it was thanks to a post there that I ran across the videos of the exceedingly creepy pickup βartistβ and minor Youtube celebrity that Iβd like to bring to your attention today.
Meet George Godley, possibly the worldβs worst pickup artist. Actually, Iβm being a bit generous in my description here, because there is no artistry at all to what he does, just a gimmick: he carries a small video camera with him as he wanders the streets of London, apparently thinking that this gives him an excuse to waylay every attractive young woman who’s unfortunate enough to wander into his field of vision.
Godley apparently wants us to believe heβs βflirtingβ with the women he so awkwardly approaches, but flirting, like the Tango, takes two, and all but a few of the women in his videos make it abundantly clear from the get-go that they want nothing to do with him. This doesnβt seem to faze him much, and he plunges ahead, trying his best to keep up with them as they endeavor to escape his presence as quickly as possible.
Take the unfortunate woman who catches his eye at the start of this video, and who finally manages to make her escape a little short of the one-minute mark.
In this next video β skip ahead to about 50 seconds in to avoid some rather pointless wandering about — we see two failed βflirts.β His first attempt, if we can call it that, consists of nothing more than him standing in the vicinity of an attractive woman while surreptitiously filming her. After giving up on her without saying a word he runs smack into the βbeautyβ of the videoβs title, and pesters her for about a minute until she manages to get away.
After a brief and awkward attempt at conversation punctuated by her nervous laughter, Godley gamely tries to convince βBeautyβ that heβs βdoing a movie for the festivals.β When she asks which festivals heβs talking about he unconvincingly stammers something about βCannes, Sund β the usual circuit.β Even though she clearly wants to put as much distance between herself and him as she possibly can, he tries to force his card on her and plaintively asks βdo you want to meet again?β The answer, a nervous βno.β
This next encounter β in which our hero barges into a restaurant to pester a woman who apparently looked briefly in his direction as he walked by outside — even Godley recognizes is a flat-out failure.
Godley has posted literally hundreds, maybe even thousands, of these “flirt” videos. None of the ones Iβve seen have gone well. Once in a while an exceptionally tolerant woman will chat with him briefly without actively trying to flee; that seems to be about as good as it gets. The rest document what is essentially serial street harassment, with Godley approaching woman after woman, none of whom give him any indication that they want to talk to him, and βflirtingβ with them until they can get away from him. It’s the same story, again and again and again.
Why does he do this, making video after video of these so-called βflirtationsβ and posting them on Youtube? Is he simply a masochist, approaching women he surely knows have no interest in talking to him, much less βflirting,β and posting evidence of his humiliating failures to Youtube for all the world to see?
Perhaps. But even more disturbing than the masochism is Godleyβs obvious sadism. Despite his social awkwardness, itβs clear from the videos that Godley knows full well that the overwhelming majority of the women he βflirtsβ with just want to be left alone; itβs clear from their body language before he approaches them, and from everything they say and do after he starts talking to them. If a woman literally flees from you, that generally means sheβs not into your shit.
But Godley doesnβt really need to be reminded of this. Heβs well aware that he makes women uncomfortable — in this video he asks a woman if she’s really talking on her phone or just trying to get rid of him. But that doesn’t stop him.
He’s not missing the social cues; he’s deliberately ignoring the clear “noes” these women either tell him outright or telegraph with their facial expressions and body language as clearly as if they were shouting “no” to his face. Were he to approach random men on the street in a similar way, he would almost certainly get himself punched on a regular basis.
Luckily for him, he’s approaching women, and they’re much smaller than he is. Itβs telling that he almost always approaches individual women, not the βsetsβ of two or more favored by most pickup artists, and that he seems to prefer approaching the supposedly more pliable Eastern European women also favored by so many manosphere assholes and creepy pickup artists.
Godleyβs not-so-well-hidden hostility towards the women he approaches comes to the surface at the end of this video, in which he attempts to βflirtβ with a woman photographing a tree and then then asks for her phone number as she tries to get away, an all-too-common ending to his videos. SPOILER ALERT: She doesnβt give it to him. SPOILER ALERT NUMBER TWO: He pretends he didn’t really want it anyway.
Even if Godley has managed to collect a few genuine phone numbers or email addresses along the way β and Iβve seen nothing to indicate that this is a regular or even an irregular occurrence β his alleged βsuccessβ in this endeavor comes at a steep cost. Not just to his pride β I donβt actually give a shit about that β but to the hundreds if not thousands of women heβs harassed along the way.
George Godley, a terrible pickup artist and an even worse human being.
Remember when Al got mad at us for saying he was sockpuppeting? Of course he WAS sockpuppeting, but he thought it was totally unfair for us to assume so.
When we point out that they’re sockpuppeting we’re insulting their acting skills, which is mean of us.
I hate it when vanilla is used as a derogative. Vanilla is an excellent flavour. It can be done poorly and it can be done well. There is nothing boring about a scoop of vanilla ice cream. Sure, you can add hot fudge, sliced almonds, and whipped cream, but it’s fine without all that stuff too. Vanilla just has versatility.
What’s wrong with vanilla?
@Historophilia – ha, yes, charity muggers! They love to do the “How are you today?” thing here, and I just say “Fine, thank you,” dismissively while not breaking step (I usually speed up when I see them anyway). One tried “Sorry to bother you, ma’am” and I said, “Don’t worry, you’re not,” without breaking step … they’re kinda like chew toys in that way. I feel slightly sorry for them ‘cos they’re all very young and yes, working for charities, but I am not in town to be asked for money, time or anything else.
That’s actually why it’s a good word for the kind of sex most people have. You can then add various kinds of kink for extra flavor and/or textural interest, or not, depending on personal taste.
@Kitteh’s
I think a law was passed in Britain that they’re not allowed to get within a certain distance of people.
Which is good for them because one tried to grab me and I nearly bit them. I thought they were attacking me.
I’m awake now and you owe me a cup of cocoa …
I have to admit, I really want to know more about the camera woman… she seemed cool. Photographing trees that made letters? That’s so awesome! Was it for a show? Is it her hobbie? The camera didn’t seem like a full tricked out one, but that doesn’t necessarily say anything. This is actually making me think I might want to approach people I see doing neat things, because she seemed awesome.
That …probably shouldn’t be my takeaway, though. “Hey! She seems really cool!”
Hank’s not a sock, has posted intermittently here for more than a year, actually.
FWIW, I don’t think Godley is a sadist/masochist in the kinky sense. If he is, he’s doing it very, very wrong.
Also FWIW, camera woman (I’ve watched this one several times) was taking the letter pictures for a photography class.
I also dislike the way vanilla is used to say “sex without being into kink”. I can understand kinksters using it ‘cos of copping all sorts of the opposite shit over the years, but so often there’s an implication that vanilla = boring, unimaginative, prudish, etc, etc. Which pisses me off enormously.
NB No, I don’t think anyone here is using it that way, I’m speaking more broadly.
For real. Stop being a dumbass, Hank.
I want to know why Hank consistently types H when it should be W.
Wouldn’t it break the universe or something if he tried to stop being a dumbass?
Kitteh’s: HA! I see what you did there.
Yes, it might put a strain on the universe, but let’s live a little and dream.
@Kitteh, yes I try to be nice to them, they generally seem to be nice young people (god that makes me sound like a grandma, they’re usually about my age!) and I wouldn’t like to do it.
But they are constantly hanging around near where I work so I have might have to run a gauntlet of them several times in one day and it gets incredibly tiresome.
@Deoridhe: That was pretty much my reaction, too. I’d like to have a conversation with her!
Historophilia – gah, that’d be a pain. I’m lucky, I work away from the CBD, so the only time I encounter them is if I go into town to shop.
Perhaps carry a sign – “You asked me yesterday and the answer is still no!”
π
hellkell – perhaps Hanky could be sent off down the other leg of the Trousers of Time (obscure Pratchett reference) or just into a different multiverse?
Actually that’d be a good idea if he didn’t quit being a dumbass, too.
@Kittehs
I tend to take ‘vanilla’ as: most people like it, it’s a good foundation for ice cream, if you give everyone vanilla then you’re not going to get complaints that people don’t like it (although they may prefer chocolate or strawberry or cookie dough or Alphabetti Spaghetti ice cream), and good vanilla is really damn tasty.
Like ‘vanilla’ sex, really.
That’s not an obscure Pratchett reference. It shows up in a number of watch books. For it to be obscure, it has to be one of the books that never seem to get mentioned again like Pyramids.
Vanilla ice cream with hot fudge and hot caramel is ambrosia which knows no like. The combination of hot and cold, ultra-sweet and mild, simply toe curlingly good.
Ah – I couldn’t remember which book(s) I’d read it in, except seeing the pic in the Discworld Companion.
CWS – thanks, I really should start reading it that way!
Say, does “breaking in a new pullover by wearing it for sexytimes” count as a kink?
His heavy breathing over that phallus of a building in the first video is kind of worrying.
Deoridhe – or vanilla ice cream with an apple turnover. Yum.
But if it comes to a cone of ice cream, plain strawberry wins every time, for me. π
Err, is this what passes for edgy and mysterious talk to some people?:
“M Dubz β did Hank claim such about persons mentioned? Safewords are the less than committed. I pull shit out of my ass if causes a problem or I let the workings of anatomy take its course.”
Gosh, I hope not. If you said that out loud in meatspace, I’d laugh in your face. I think, after a rough dig around you shitty grammar, you’re saying safewords don’t always work and if you need to take a dump during sex, so be it.
Owwww, scary!
Um, OK. You’re aiming for creepy/sexy, but your attempt is kind of remedial. Stop studying “50 Shades of Grey,” it’s crap.
It sounds like it’s be easier to write it on your shirt π Or tape it.
Re: vanilla
The icecream/sex analogy does not work for me. Mainly because I have an anti-food fetish. Especially touching other people’s food or dishes. It’s weird, but whatever. I’m rambling.
Anyhow, still moody and rambly like yesterday, so sorry if I’m not making much sense recently π
I wonder if this guy will become a London urban legend – like the Highgate vampire, but less fun. 20 years from now there will be a dinner party with a couple of female guests who fit his type, and someone will mention harassment, and the women will be all “hey, do you remember that weirdo with the camera? I think he got arrested eventually”.