Well, I have to give the terrible, terrible fellows at PUAhate credit for one thing: it was thanks to a post there that I ran across the videos of the exceedingly creepy pickup “artist” and minor Youtube celebrity that I’d like to bring to your attention today.
Meet George Godley, possibly the world’s worst pickup artist. Actually, I’m being a bit generous in my description here, because there is no artistry at all to what he does, just a gimmick: he carries a small video camera with him as he wanders the streets of London, apparently thinking that this gives him an excuse to waylay every attractive young woman who’s unfortunate enough to wander into his field of vision.
Godley apparently wants us to believe he’s “flirting” with the women he so awkwardly approaches, but flirting, like the Tango, takes two, and all but a few of the women in his videos make it abundantly clear from the get-go that they want nothing to do with him. This doesn’t seem to faze him much, and he plunges ahead, trying his best to keep up with them as they endeavor to escape his presence as quickly as possible.
Take the unfortunate woman who catches his eye at the start of this video, and who finally manages to make her escape a little short of the one-minute mark.
In this next video – skip ahead to about 50 seconds in to avoid some rather pointless wandering about — we see two failed “flirts.” His first attempt, if we can call it that, consists of nothing more than him standing in the vicinity of an attractive woman while surreptitiously filming her. After giving up on her without saying a word he runs smack into the “beauty” of the video’s title, and pesters her for about a minute until she manages to get away.
After a brief and awkward attempt at conversation punctuated by her nervous laughter, Godley gamely tries to convince “Beauty” that he’s “doing a movie for the festivals.” When she asks which festivals he’s talking about he unconvincingly stammers something about “Cannes, Sund – the usual circuit.” Even though she clearly wants to put as much distance between herself and him as she possibly can, he tries to force his card on her and plaintively asks “do you want to meet again?” The answer, a nervous “no.”
This next encounter – in which our hero barges into a restaurant to pester a woman who apparently looked briefly in his direction as he walked by outside — even Godley recognizes is a flat-out failure.
Godley has posted literally hundreds, maybe even thousands, of these “flirt” videos. None of the ones I’ve seen have gone well. Once in a while an exceptionally tolerant woman will chat with him briefly without actively trying to flee; that seems to be about as good as it gets. The rest document what is essentially serial street harassment, with Godley approaching woman after woman, none of whom give him any indication that they want to talk to him, and “flirting” with them until they can get away from him. It’s the same story, again and again and again.
Why does he do this, making video after video of these so-called “flirtations” and posting them on Youtube? Is he simply a masochist, approaching women he surely knows have no interest in talking to him, much less “flirting,” and posting evidence of his humiliating failures to Youtube for all the world to see?
Perhaps. But even more disturbing than the masochism is Godley’s obvious sadism. Despite his social awkwardness, it’s clear from the videos that Godley knows full well that the overwhelming majority of the women he “flirts” with just want to be left alone; it’s clear from their body language before he approaches them, and from everything they say and do after he starts talking to them. If a woman literally flees from you, that generally means she’s not into your shit.
But Godley doesn’t really need to be reminded of this. He’s well aware that he makes women uncomfortable — in this video he asks a woman if she’s really talking on her phone or just trying to get rid of him. But that doesn’t stop him.
He’s not missing the social cues; he’s deliberately ignoring the clear “noes” these women either tell him outright or telegraph with their facial expressions and body language as clearly as if they were shouting “no” to his face. Were he to approach random men on the street in a similar way, he would almost certainly get himself punched on a regular basis.
Luckily for him, he’s approaching women, and they’re much smaller than he is. It’s telling that he almost always approaches individual women, not the “sets” of two or more favored by most pickup artists, and that he seems to prefer approaching the supposedly more pliable Eastern European women also favored by so many manosphere assholes and creepy pickup artists.
Godley’s not-so-well-hidden hostility towards the women he approaches comes to the surface at the end of this video, in which he attempts to “flirt” with a woman photographing a tree and then then asks for her phone number as she tries to get away, an all-too-common ending to his videos. SPOILER ALERT: She doesn’t give it to him. SPOILER ALERT NUMBER TWO: He pretends he didn’t really want it anyway.
Even if Godley has managed to collect a few genuine phone numbers or email addresses along the way – and I’ve seen nothing to indicate that this is a regular or even an irregular occurrence – his alleged “success” in this endeavor comes at a steep cost. Not just to his pride – I don’t actually give a shit about that – but to the hundreds if not thousands of women he’s harassed along the way.
George Godley, a terrible pickup artist and an even worse human being.
deoridhe, that sounds like a good example of the translator’s subjectivity in action. I used to agonise over words when translating, trying to get at the heart and mood of the original. Sadly I am exceptionally rusty now.
Marie — “But I don’t really thing gender are race are exactly comparable like that.”
Yeah my analogy was terrible, I blame the industrial strength psych drugs, and recant my idiocy. The rest of it makes sense without that, and I shouldn’t have even said it, sorry.
As for your guess that I’m not straight or gay, go have a celebratory cookie, cuz you’re right (that isn’t snark, I’m probably coming off snarking than I intend, sorry about that too). But yeah “bi/pan/wtf-ever” is Argenti for “I don’t care what’s in your pants, nor how you present” (I want your BRAAIIINNS…)
Now I really am going to bed, got distracted by twitter, and fish, and BRAAIIINNS! *zombifies the thread!*
Hey, does that mean if a troll tries necroing this thread in a few months, a zombie will arise and eat their brain? (Could mean the zombie goes hungry, of course, but it’s an appealing image – zombie guardian of the threads.)
My theory on what a vampire says when they’re annoyed is “whatever they want”. Who’s going to stop them?
aargh in moderation, I meant snicker, I meant snicker. Ok, try again…going back to vanilla and root beer floats, it made me snicker in context. In Australia, a root is a slang word for sexytimes. But vulgarly so, with no positive connotations.
aaaand that ^^^^ was directed @baroncognito
ah now the zombie thing makes sense XD um, and I may have had more to say but my brain is getting more garlbed. Good night all, must sleep.
@ Baroncognito
Ah. thanks for answering 🙂
zombie dworkin has gifted us w/ her minions
BigMomma – yeah, that’s why I was thinking someone trying to float and root at the same time would be an unfortunate experiment! 😀
I’ve been caught by the mod machine on that word too. Makes complete sense, of course, but snicker to me is just not the same sound!
The idea of a vampire who says “Poot!” or “Goshdarn!” is rather appealing. We got onto a whole hillbilly vampire sidetrack with that one.
… bloody zombie blockquotes
The zombies are here for your blockquoooooooootez.
Aiiiieeeeeeeee!
Now this is a scary zombie.
*screams and hides under the nearest large item*
That prompted me to read the synopsis of Pet Sematary at last – quite different from what I expected (which I think was more Children of the Corn sort of stuff).
It is scary, but it’s also pretty sad. King is a much better writer than he’s often given credit for – he knows how to deliver an emotional punch, not just fear.
I’ve not read much of his work – The Stand, Salem’s Lot, Misery and the book of short stories whose name I never remember. I can see how the deaths and grief in this one would be very sad.
Zombie Puppies!
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Favourites: Fetch X Roll over X Play dead ü
and “Fuck! They got Pancho!”
😀
Hmm, okay, so wingdings character map doesn’t work … that u was meant to be a tick.
Gerald’s Game and Dolores Claiborne are interesting ones from a feminist pov.
I thought about getting Gerald’s Game when it came out, but baulked at the situation.
I liked it. Not perfect from a feminist perspective, but I would say he’s a guy who gives a shit about women, and that comes across clearly.
I’m curious about the whole “ableism” thing. I read in one of the comments that saying someone is or might be mentally ill is, apparently, a big no-no here, because it’s an “ableist” thing to say. I just read the comment policy and, by my understanding, it is within the guidlines. So, I guess I’m good in the future. But I’m wondering why everyone is jumping on the Time Traveller person for saying “mentally ill” in reference to the toolbag PUA’s relatively crazy behavior.
For the record, I myself, unlike Time Traveller Person (Sorry, I’m way down here and forgot how it’s spelled/can’t see the username) do NOT feel sorry for this guy. He is indeed pitiful, but only in that loose, colloquial sense, sort of like saying someone’s “mentally ill” because they’re acting “crazy”.
I also find it ironic that everyone is attacking Time Travelloid, in an actual real-time (albeit via the inner-nest) convo, with plenty of insults (however politically correctthey may be), because TT-Something called (or was it just, wondered?) some JERK mentally ill. Ableism. In this particular context, who is it hurting? What damage is it doing? It’s seems awfully petty.
Several people have wondered, visibly, if The Time Traveller (I am sorry for that, again) is DRUNK because of the content of his/her comments. THAT is so rude! Such a cop-out, too. Damn. ApparentlyTime Traveller said somewhere that only being attracted to one’s own race is racist. I’m not sure I agree, but I myself haven’t experienced only being attracted to my own race, so I can’t understand why that would be the case for someone, unless they were indeed racist, even if it’s just a smidge. Ableist, racist… hmmm.
Here I am, my second comment, and it, like my first, is one were I feel the need to defend another commenter. Someone I don’t know and haven’t followed enough to know much about. But what makes me kind of mad is the various commenters, who seem to be regulars, swinging their dicks around, pardon the expression, because they have eachother to back oneanother up. Both times I’ve commented I’ve done so also out of annoyance, my problem and my problem alone, I realize this. Because I scroll down, expecting some interesting conversations having to do with the article, and see a bunch of petty bickering over things that have little to do with the article.
It’s funny to me, that because of my POV, I’m probably going to be considered a troll. Because my contribution isn’t in line with the majority’s I’m either intentionally or unintentially attempting to stir shit up. That’s not the case, honestly. But then again, fuck it. I’m going to go watch Lost on netflix. I hope the talking peanut has mercy on all y’all’s souls. m/ Please out m/