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How to Hate and Envy Every Single Person in the World, PUAhate edition

Some guys get all the chicks
Some guys get all the chicks

The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.

As one PUAhater put it recently:

PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong

the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it

So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.

But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.

Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.

One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:

To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?

Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.

Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.

But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)

The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.

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tcwill00
tcwill00
11 years ago
Howard Bannister
Howard Bannister
11 years ago

24 comments to go for 1,500. (23 after this one)

So, that Rufus Sewell! I’m not sure I buy him as a good guy. Even as the very morally muddled Zen, whose biggest problem in a sea of corruption is that no matter how hard he tries he just can’t manage to be corrupt enough to fit in. Because there is something about his eyes, something very canny, almost lizard-like. He plays a villain like almost nobody else can.

It’s like Colin Farrell. You can’t trust him as a good guy, because you just KNOW that behind those eyes he’s thinking about tearing your head off. Channel that into a meaty villain role–who else loved the Fright Night remake?

Also, I saw the Croods. It was surprisingly feminist.

Falconer
11 years ago

The only things I’ve seen Rufus Sewell in are Knight’s Tale and Dark City, where he was villain and hero, respectively.

Dark City was such an odd movie I’m not sure it’s a good example of him heroing, but there is a moment after he has obtained the macguffin and can take the villains on on their own terms when he looks right down the camera and you do get a sense that he’s capable of cruelty.

So I started watching Midsomer Murders while feeding my children. I’m not done with the first episode yet, but it’s kind of a doozy. I’m not sure I like DS Troy, he’s not quite as bad as the DS and the other DC in The Last Detective (who are total dicks) but he used the term “arse bandits” without irony. ಠ__ಠ

And the undertaker has a large gaydar profile AND ALSO he’s a despicable blackmailer so I feel like people can take agin him from the beginning (because he’s gay) and then along comes the blackmail and gives people an out for disliking him.

Howard Bannister
Howard Bannister
11 years ago

Sewell was also the Large Ham villain in the second Zorro movie, which was eighteen miles of fail.

And, y’know, it’s one thing to include gay villains. That’s fine, yeah, gay people can be just as bad as straight.

When the only gay characters you have are villains? (I’m looking at you, Sherlock!) Um, maybe some gay characters who AREN’T the epitome of evil? Just to break things up?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Cloudiah — maybe? Idk, I might just be wary of it taking another 5 years to grow out if I change my mind!

Falconer — baby crane! Well sorta, cute though.

Gay maybe villains? Captain Jack, the sometimes good guy (makes more sense if you’re seen Torchwood) — he isn’t exactly the hero much of the time. Except when he is. Captain Jack, chaotic neutral ish? (I’d say true neutral but they apparently never do anything *has not played D&D*)

1500-20!

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Anyone seen Cold Comfort Farm? Rufus Sewell as Seth Starkadder, now that was something to see. Love that film. Plus you’ve got Ian McKellen at his wild-eyed best, Eileen Atkins, Kate Beckinsale, Stephen Fry and Joanna Lumley – what more could you want?

Ha, Falconer, be warned – Troy doesn’t get any smarter. How the hell he eventually makes Inspector I’ll never know.

Midsomer must be the most dangerous place in England, even worse than everywhere-north-of-Manchester-including-Scotland for its serial killer count. They must have to space out the series to repopulate the place.

Deoridhe
11 years ago

Rufus Sewell KILLED as Seth Starkadder. I love that movie so much~!!

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Me too! I’ve lost count of how often I’ve watched it.

THERE’S NO BUTTER IN HELL!

Falconer
11 years ago

It’s unfair that a jerk like Troy makes Inspector while Dangerous Davies stays a DC all his career. But I suppose that’s his tragic flaw.

Great, now I has a sad because we’re never gonna have more Dalziel & Pascoe since the author passed away 🙁 That was a great series.

Howard Bannister
Howard Bannister
11 years ago

Gay maybe villains? Captain Jack, the sometimes good guy (makes more sense if you’re seen Torchwood) — he isn’t exactly the hero much of the time. Except when he is. Captain Jack, chaotic neutral ish? (I’d say true neutral but they apparently never do anything *has not played D&D*)

I’d be tempted to give that one a passing grade just because he’s the protagonist–even if he’s morally grey, he’s not the bad guy. There are bad guys.

Shows where the only gay guy is very definitely the bad guy are just way, way worse.

And now I need to see Cold Comfort Farm.

titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

Saw Rufus Sewell on stage in Tom Stoppard’s Arcadia with – OMG what a cast – Felicity Kendal, BillNighy, Harriet Walters, Sam West. Desperately sad that noone thought to film that production. Think Byronic. *dies*

If you want to see him in his youthful beauty, try Middlemarch. And he’s interesting as a cross-dressing Petruchio role in the BBC’s modern take of Taming of the Shrew.

cloudiah
11 years ago

I has a sad about Dalziel & Pascoe too.

[adds Cold Comfort Farm to list of movies to watch]

cloudiah
11 years ago

And I think we should just keep this thread as the Open Thread for random discussions — no wait, what am I talking about? That is EVERY thread! 😀

Falconer
11 years ago

Doctor Who has never pretended to be hard science fiction … At best Doctor Who is a fairytale, with fairytale logic about this wonderful man in this big blue box who at the beginning of every story lands somewhere where there is a problem. – neil gaiman

Hah! It’s nice to have backup 😛

Falconer
11 years ago

(I’d say true neutral but they apparently never do anything *has not played D&D*)

The 3.5 Player’s Handbook says sometimes true neutral people don’t put too much moral thought into their actions and just do what seems like a good idea, while others make a commitment to avoid extremes of thought and view good, evil, lawful and chaotic as “biased and prejudiced” attitudes. &#3232__&#3232

Yeah, I know it’s a nine-foot tall, goat-hoofed, brick-red being from the Lower Planes, but we haven’t actually seen it devour the souls of virgins, so I think you should not leap to any conclusions, Mr. Smite The Wicked With The Very Sharp Edge of My Enchanted Sword.

Of course, in 4E there’s no neutral, there’s unaligned.

I know what would make this thread burst 2,000 comments if anybody here cared: Edition wars! Everyone choose up sides and calmly explain why everybody else’s decision makes them a morally corrupt, despicable human being. Or stupid and immature. But few people here play D&D and those who do are all laid back.

Falconer
11 years ago

It seems like in the 70s a lot of British and possibly US* murder mysteries revolved around someone who was gay, and was being blackmailed, so the blackmailer gets killed and if the gay person didn’t do it, zie was the most obvious suspect.

I’ve moved on to Series 1, Episode 2 of Midsomer, and I know DS Troy is a bit fick but could you at least answer him without the sarcasm, Inspector? Thank you.

Falconer
11 years ago

*I haven’t read that many US murder mysteries, for some reason it’s mostly British.

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Barnaby does sarcasm better than he does detecting, I think. I like the second Barnaby, the one Neil Dudgeon (always enjoy seeing him and you’ve got to love that name) plays, better. Plus his dog Sykes is the best.

thebewilderness
11 years ago

Cold Comfort Farm is in every way splendid. One of the few instances where they did not do violence to the book.

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I can never see Ian McKellen without thinking of him as Amos Starkadder.

Falconer
11 years ago

Five! More! Comments!

Well, four now.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Never say I don’t do my part.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Now 3 more!

Falconer — ok, that makes some sense. So idk on Harkness, he’s more…wtf needs to be done, or he wants, fuck the consequences. Though I guess it’s usually for good, for some definition of good.

cloudiah
11 years ago

To

cloudiah
11 years ago

Advance the thread. My internet connection is really spotty, if you can’t tell.