The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
Not sure if creepier than the London camcorder creep.
Awright, brain bleach!
How is that gorgeous young woman keeping from tipping over?
Howard Bannister: When it’s moving properly, I try to stretch and stuff, but I’ve found that when the pain is weather related, movement can be counterproductive. Especially, for some reason, the wild fluctuations in temperature and precipitation we’ve had of late – one day raining and in the forties, gale and winter weather warnings that night, snow and temps in the twenties the next day.
I suppose the electric steroid delivery method would negate my needle objections, but I think it might raise others! Was it painful?
@Kathnleen:
The first time was MEGA WEIRD. It felt like it was burning. After that it was just like a harsh tingling. Not painless, but not really painful either. And I’m a big wimp about needles, so I was definitely not going any route that involved needles.
And OMG the fluctuating weather. I feel like I’ve got a permanent sinus headache this month.
Falconer: And about assessing gunshots: I’m sure that GIs in WWII got to be experts at discerning what was harassment shelling and when a big barrage was coming. Tell the truth, I’m very glad being able to tell what weapons fire I have to worry about is not in my skill set.
I understand that gladness.
What you learn is what’s “addressed to you” and what’s not. “general delivery” is problematic if you are in the neighborhood, but sort of shrugged off if it’s “the next block over”.
To tell a sort of, “war story” I was playing some paintball, and I was in a shallow depression. We were taking fire. My friends were behind a log; safe as houses. I was pretty much face down in the grass. I was having a casual conversation with them about what to do. Afterwards (we were dead by then. Someone on the other team understood how to establish a base of fire and we were flanked), they asked how I could just have a chat. I said it was easy, there was no way that guy could hit me, so it wasn’t something to worry about.
That’s the, “skill” I never really expected to have.
I’m personally willing to give Lady Liberty the benefit of the doubt and assume that consent is involved, and Justice just kinda likes the blindfold.
C’mon guys, how’s Liberty gonna violate Justice’s boundaries? Even if Liberty’s only interested in liberty for Liberty, Justice would TOTALLY get justice after the fact and Justice may be blind but Liberty ain’t stupid.
By the way, why is Justice wearing a blindfold if she’s already blind? Shouldn’t it be sunglasses, if anything? I guess she could just be stylish?
Oh wow, the Lady Liberty kissing Justice picture is awesome!
Howard: Did it help? It’s not really an option for me at the moment, what with the ‘no insurance’ thing, but I’m curious! (no insurance is also the reason my stretches are slightly modified basic barre exercises from my distant ballet classes)
*is pretzel*
I want to help keep this thread going, so can someone please promise to remind me to post this example of “Shit My Students Write” the next time we have a troll spouting assdata?
http://shitmystudentswrite.tumblr.com/post/45837650715/mental-work-cited
(too lazy to html)
Freemage:
Reading our comments next to each other I feel awkward not acknowledging yours inspired mine. Mine’s more similar to yours than I thought lol
Good comment buddy *thumbs up*
@Kathleen: Here… I am less helpful.
I got better.
I don’t know if it was all the exercises, the exercises combined with the PT’s feedback, all that combined with the treatment, all that combined with the prescription-strength Naproxen I was taking…… I had all these multiple therapies, and together they took about three months to restore my hip to feeling like I had no bursitis at all in there. (it’s still in there, of course, just at bay–I’ve been slacking on my stretches, and I’m feeling little twinges this week)
@freemage
I give her the benefit of the doubt too 🙂
Molly: High five!
“Argenti: It’s worse than that. It was always known he just grabbed her; it was presented as, “spontaneous”. What came out last year is that he was working the crowd; apparently trying to be photographed.
He apparently grabbed/kissed several women, and when the photo was taken he stopped.”
Fucking fuckity fuck fuck. And we turned that photo, the result of a series of sexual assaults, into a symbol of…of what exactly? The beauty of soldiers coming home?
Thanks though, sponge brain now has a “did you know” for why I hate that photo!
Historophilia – I pinched the background pic off the net, but it was taken on a sunny day, by the look of it. I twiddled the contrast a bit trying to make Sir fit better, but it’s not hugely different. The sun does get that bright here in summer. 🙂
Argenti: Fucking fuckity fuck fuck. And we turned that photo, the result of a series of sexual assaults, into a symbol of…of what exactly? The beauty of soldiers coming home?
A sense of liberation: the end of war, resumption of peace, freedom from something. It wasn’t about soldiers/seamen, etc. It’s just the two uniforms happened to catch iconic images of what the war which was ending was about.
Even more fucked…let’s show liberation with a picture of sexual assault! I mean, I get that women’s liberation, as a term, was another decade+ off, but fuck if that isn’t one layer of shit cake after another. (I really should stop with the metaphorical shit foods huh?)
Maybe I shouldn’t piss in your punchbowl any more, Argenti, but if the photo represented liberation, it represented it only for white folks. All the black soldiers came back to Colored Water Fountains.
Now I’m wondering if any scholarship has been done on how much impetus and support the Civil Rights movement got from black veterans.
Crappit, the Armed Forces had plenty of non-black minorities, including Native Americans, Japanese, and latin@. Sorry not to mention those guys, but segregation was the first thing that came to mind and we don’t need a wall of text.
Falconer: It’s pretty well accepted that the World Wars, and the various effects of being overseas (as in WW1 France were black units were treated just like any other; when they were attached to French Commands) was a strong impetus to the Civil RIghts movement; as was Truman’s integration order.
Howard: I can do stretching, when it won’t make things worse. No insurance means that PT and injected steroids are out, and naproxen only makes the menstrual cramps go away (a noble calling, and much appreciated, but not so much help with the hip). So I do what I can with what I’ve got, and see if my doc finds anything. I do think that having the vicodin and flexaril would help so muchover the weekend , but evidently she felt differently. sigh
MrB has to sleep on the couch until I can cope without keeping the bed heated, my student loans got screwed up and ate our tax refund, and I managed a whole TWO HOURS of sleep last night. I has a ton red sad, and can’t let the cats climb all over me, because they somehow drive their paws right into the sore spots.
“All the black soldiers came back to Colored Water Fountains.”
You know, sometimes I’m glad that my sponge brain fails to collate dates. Involutionary sterilization was still happening too, at least for Native Americans.
Might as wall o’ text it though. This can hit 1,500 comments if we try!
In better, more random things, I just got done redoing my planted / snail tank. DIY sponge filter, dug it all up and laid fertiziler (yep, aquatic fertiziler is a thing, it’s basically the clay bed you’ll find in most rivers) — removed the in tank filter, and the hang on back that was off but I was avoiding dealing with…its intake spout is now floating around because there’re 5~ clutches of snail eggs on it. Got a proper CO2 diffuser hooked up, still refuse to buy CO2 canisters, that’s what yeast and sugar are for…
Pecunium — can I brew anything in my yeast, sugar and water container? Or not? The CO2 is escaping, or rather, being piped into the planted tank, so idk? And you brew stuff, so yeah, thoughts?
@Marie
You’re welcome! Sorry you ran into a bad PT. They are out there, unfortunately.