The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
I did Tai Chi for a while. It’s very low impact. The breathing part tends to be about “inhale here, exhale here” and not the really deep breathing some different relaxation techniques focus on. I loved it and want to get back into doing it, but I also like the irrational and silly uses of the word “energy” to represent psychological awareness in the body, and while the Tai Chi I learned didn’t have a ton of that, we did do a warm up which included running our hands over our limbs to get the energy running through them (something I now use when a limb falls asleep to wake it up without pins and needles). YMMV, but I loved it.
Oh, cute men kissing. *fans herself*
Hi all! Been watching a really good doco on a kangaroo sanctuary near Alice Springs.
Deoridhe – thanks for that extra info. It’s deep breathing that gives me trouble, so it’s good to know tai chi isn’t so focussed on that.
Hearing the stuff about energy would have a bit of deja vu to it. I learned reiki a couple of years back, so I’ve heard all the chakras/energy stuff. And more than I ever want to hear again about reincarnation. ::grinds teeth::
Mind you it was a hoot when my teacher came out and said Sir had followed her into the house and was having a stickybeak while she printed the class certifiates. He always has liked poking around other people’s homes!
Nineteen more comments (eighteen after this) and it’ll be 1200!
@ Kitteh- Oooh, let’s get ‘er done, non-sequitor style!! Do bees have knees?
@Argenti
I hope it was clear that I was kidding about the porn, it didn’t need a NSFW warning.
I was just very very happy about the video. And my SO was teasing me and I thought it was funny.
Yoyo, I too missed the original post but that’s great news!
Kitteh, sorry I couldn’t find what you were looking for. I’m happy to do keyword searches of the comments for anyone who needs them, though it sounds like a site-specific google search works just as well.
Jones, the Bash the Scene part of PUAhate is a lot less fun than shitty advice, but obviously there is misogyny galore there, and I’ll give it a bit more attention. I was actually looking at it earlier tonight, but I ended up getting distracted by a shitty PUA they were talking about. Post on that coming later today!
Just curious, what is the longest thread on this site?
caught up finally.
Now it’s time for bed.
The longest threads here:
http://manboobz.com/2011/11/27/women-oppress-men-by-playing-at-having-a-career/
http://manboobz.com/2012/03/16/tom-martins-anti-male-discrimination-case-against-the-london-school-of-economics-dismissed-he-responds-by-calling-his-critics-whores/
http://manboobz.com/2011/07/06/two-atheists-get-in-an-elevator/
Right now, this current thread is at #11, with a bullet. It’s probably going to end up in the top ten.
Actually, there’s no question it will. It’s only a few comments away from the #10 spot.
Almost
there
Hey a kitteh, argenti and David, thanks for your good wishes. Truly this has been an awful period but at least we have universal health care. I really grieve for people caught without it.
Anyway happy troll hunting ! Kisses to all boobians! 🙂
Wow, gotta get there. I just got into Sydney after massive fail with Qantas in Melbourne. It’s been a long bloody day but congrats to all manboobians. Not only did you get a huge thread going but you did it without being total tools (as per vox days cadre). Kisses to all .
I love the men kissing video!
Oh come on guys! We’re almost at two thousand. We can beat that easy just by talking about Dr Who or tea, posting kitty pics!
So excited for the return of Dr Who! We eat pappadums while watching the latest show. Fun for the whole family.
What is the name of this fancy cane mag? I should get that for my mother.
Yoyo: glad the lump is just a lump.
So, I hate to just jump back into a thread after only having read half the comments since I left last night… but I want to tackle something that I didn’t quite have time for. I peaced out on a ‘weaksauce.’ Because Socks McSockington had been going on about Chris Evans and Chris Hemsworth, and I was non-receptive, and he was all ‘anybody can look like that!’ And that’s a weaksauce answer.
Pecunium explained half of that, yanno, how it takes a team to make anybody look like that in the first place, but just to elaborate.
I’m a firefighter.
I also hang out with bodybuilders on occasion.
So I know something about the business of sculpting the body to look pretty, and how very different that is from building a body with actual strength.
I work out near-constantly. Cardio every day, pumping iron at least every other day. Lives may depend on whether I have the strength I need. Lives may depend on how long I can keep going. This is not an academic exercise to me.
So I tend to scoff and laugh at folks sculpting their bodies to look good. I mean, Hemsworth is very nice to look at, yes. But I have a bias towards bodies that can actually do the job.
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PS: “bodies that can actually do the job” = Steve Buscemi.
Furthermore, on hair, most of the baldest guys I know who went bald the youngest have never seemed to want for romantic liasons. Of course, with a few exceptions, they’re not assholes either.
OMG It’s the hydra thread. Right, it’s lunchtime here and I’m going back in to try & find the last comment I read & then catchup. I may be sometime ….
@pillowinhell, Argenti, regarding First Nations ancestry and white privilege–
So, I can trace my heritage back to my full-blooded Iriquois great-great-grandfather.
He’s the one who left the tribe and began a tradition of masking or hiding that ancestry as a survival mechanism.
I have no connection to this heritage except the knowledge that it was there.
It worked–we’ve survived, even thrived. Each successive generation has had more white privilege, more passing privilege, more relative cultural privilege. We’ve passed from dirt-poor to regular poor to aspiring poor to lower middle class.
So I have some complicated thoughts about this that mostly boil down to ‘and in the land of the free, home of the brave that’s the price of survival, that’s the price to play, fuck you whitey.’
JK: Its when terms like male privilege imply that all males have things easier. In my view … followed by blather.
Yes, I mean blather. You don’t have any evidence to support your assertion. Your assertion is vague, trite and unsupported. Your opener is wrong.
Males (speaking as a male) do have it easier. They may lose in competition to other males (boo-hoo), but they win in competition with women. They get all sorts of invisible preference.
Doesn’t matter what you think, because it is. If you want to dispite it (good luck with that) you need more than “your view”. You need facts, figures, well designed studies. You need what you don’t have: DATA.
I will try to explain this to you. Privilege isn’t what you get, is the shit you don’t get. You don’t get less pay, “because ‘he’ has a family to feed”. You don’t get, “women are bad at math”. You don’t get, “women live off the inventions of men”. You don’t get any of that crap.
That’s privilege.
HA-HA! Take that!
Sorry, just finished catching up on the thread.
It felt like an achievment.
Speaking of bodies that get shit done, bulk is not required. My boyfriend is on the thin end, but if you see him do Tae Kwon Do it is crazy intimdating. (For people who aren’t his girlfriend, natch. For me it’s just hot. ;D) He can quite effortlessly kick you in the face three times before he hits the ground. Ah, boyfriend…
…I’ll be in my bunk.