The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
1,000! BOOYAH!
Nope, Shriaz is the winnah!
He’ll be back.
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@ Marie Oh golly, that pay gap link. I knew the statistics, but it was really off-putting to see the comparisons between the degrees. Good to know once I’ve obtained my doctorate I’ll likely be paid about the same as a man with a Bachelors.
cloudiah, seriously, that Rollie thing is going to haunt my nightmares! So, thanks, for that…
I ate too many french fries.
I can’t tell if my nausea is from overeating or from what I’ve read.
Just take it as evident that we are sick and tired of explaining the same 101 concepts over and over again, when there are easily available written discourses on the damn google.
Also, you’ll note that the women here are also HUMAN. As women, our experiences are vastly different when it comes to things like objectification both in frequency of having to deal with it, the severity and its total impact on our lives.
Things like the bullshit the Stuebanville rape victim is going through, is tied into the objectification of women. Because society says that women are for mens gratification, period.
So maybe when you’ve gotten your nose back into proper alignment and done some basic reading, come back and we’ll be happier to discuss.
🙂
I won something? Whew, nicest thing to happen to me all day.
What did that troll want anyway? It felt like he was digging for an apology, but for what?
Oh, and we passed 1000 comments.
What time is it inChicago?
“ffs, noone was treating you badly because you are a male, but because of your content. (and really? all anyone said was that you seemed like a troll.) I’ve tried to engage with you in good faith, but that line was ridiculous >:/ Nobody owes you answers, and this isn’t a feminist 101 site.”
Really?
“Yet another young man who is blind to his privilege, but comes here to wank about how he can’t get a date. There must be a factory somewhere.”
Doesn’t sound like it to me.
If I was a woman with this content I wouldn’t have gotten that response. Nobody would have made assumptions that I’m here to wank because I ‘can’t get a date’.
What about my content is so offensive? Believing that Neil Strauss didn’t get women because he has masterful PUA skills? That maybe something else was behind it?
Or was it when I made the assumption that I look more attractive with hair than I would bald?
There are such strong judgements here towards me when so little is known about me other than my gender which is funny coming from people who claim to be about equality.
pillow in hell:
Won’t happpen, we (I) were (was) meeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaan to him.
@augochlorella
Yeah :/ I haven’t looked back on it in a while, I just had it in my ‘handy statistics’ folder and posted it so the there’d be a link :/ Itsallabout… seemed like he’d be ‘there’s no glass cieling’ so I thought a source would be handy
I’m ramlbing….but like whatever. Unless I’m bugging you guys. Then you can tell me to be quiet, and I’ll actually get some sleep and try to come back coherent 😀
Way to stick the flounce, dude!
We’re here to mock misogyny, go read the header. That is job one here.
What’s offensive is that you waltz in here with questions, and get stroppy when people don’t spoonfeed you, while ignoring the very nice people who are not me who could be assed to give you answers.
Fella, I thought you said you were leaving.
I guess you shouldn’t feel bad by peoples ‘”strong judgements” since we know “so little about you.” It couldn’t be personal then, could it?
No, if you were a woman posting misogynistic stuff on a site that mocks misogyny you’d still be mocked. ps, did you check out the link I posted. Actually respond to anything maybe :/
um, as far as I could tell people were just pointing out some men were attractive bald. If you want to find a way to get hair/keep hair, get a wig/ fake hair, nobody’s stopping you, you just shouldn’t feel like you have to to be socially acceptable, using your analogy, the same way women shouldn’t feel they have to wear make up to cover ‘flaws’ on their face to be acceptable. I like wearing make up sometimes, but I don’t like to feel like I have to. Does that make sense?
the only things we know about you are 1) your gender 2) you’re balding and 3) what you post. The last one is by far the most important.
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Dude…
Idk about the get a date thing (I just skimmed most of the comments, so I can’t tell if you mentioned dating at all* but someone calling you blind to your privilege IS NOT ANTI MALE.
It is.. jeez. You have male privilege because you are man. Okay? This includes things like statistically higher pay than a woman of your same situation (race, background, education), generally taken as more competent, not really expected to change your last name or take on most of the housework in a marriage…
The list goes on and on.
Anyway, my point is if you think people pointing your your privilege is anti man, you have got a lot of stuff to think over.
If it was that date thing, ask someone who has been reading the comments all the way.
*lazy, I know. 😛
@ Marie I don’t believe you’re bothering anyone. In fact, in my lurking I think you’ve come off as adorable if anything.
@ ItsAllAboutPersonalityJKlolololol Many people here were way more patient and welcoming to you than you deserved. If you can’t handle that we aren’t going to treat you with adoring respect after your behavior here, then you should stick to your promise to leave.
And he completely ignored my 101 lesson about how patriarchy hurts men. Color me surprised.
“No, if you were a woman posting misogynistic stuff on a site that mocks misogyny you’d still be mocked.”
I was mocked before I said hardly anything other than the bit about Neil Strauss. Is believing that PUA techniques isn’t why he had several girlfriends what passes for misogyny now?
I should add, adorable and you know your stuff, just to be clear.
@augochlorella
Aww. Thanks 😀
@itsallabout….
I…where. I mean, I guess I’ll go back a page or two, but I don’t remember what you said about Niel straus. *shrugs*
@augochlorella
hehe. Extra thanks 😀 (just saw the second comment). *blushing*
Mmm-hmm.
Gonna hit the wine soon.
@itsallabout…
yeah, I went back to the conversation before I engaged you and it just looked like it was about balding so…. if you have a problem with that you’re going to have to talk to whoever you have the problem with. Difficult as it to believe, us feminists are not a hivemind 😉
@shiraz
I’m hitting the ‘should be in bed, but internets’ soon. It’s like being drunk for me 😉 Anyway, who needs sleep? XD