The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
Every time you see someone looking good in the media, remember that there are several people whose full time job it is to make that person look good. Make-up (yes, for men too), hair, lighting, wardrobe, photoshop (if it’s in print), whatever kind of post-processing/effects go into movies and tv, etc. There was a TED talk recently by a model where she showed two pictures: one a snapshot of her in a bathing suit with a friend, and another was from the professional shoot she went to the very next day. In the first snapshot, she looked like your every day awkward gangly teenage girl. The professional shot was like she was a whole different person.
Actually, looks, Beloved is the first partner I’ve had that approached me first. I’ve been the one to initiate every other relationship I’ve had.
But nice try cramming me into your teeny tiny utterly detached from reality viewpoint.
I love how he’s saying Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans are the hot ones in Avengers when EVERY WOMAN I KNOW would fling their panties at Tom Hiddleston (tall, skinny, interesting face) in preference to either Chris. And I would join them.
And it’s Robert PattINson, not Robert Patterson. I know this because I am secretly a teenage girl.
There’s a lot weird race stuff on puahate. The members seem to be from all over the world and it’s a prime example of how weird the subtext of race and attraction are and differ from culture to culture. And there’s a genuinely sad, internalized racism and self-loathing present in some quite of few of them.
It’s not as simple as a purely western interpretation of race and sexual attractiveness.
Makes life worth living, I tell you. There’s nothing like having a stranger follow you to your car in the middle of the night -not because he’s trying to scare the ever loving shit out of you and damn near getting himself shivved in the process- to tell you how attractive he finds you and how much he’d like to get your phone number and get together.
Plus, there’s nothing like being called a bitch for refusing somebody’s offer of sex. That is the absolute icing on the cake of any given day.
Looksie: Beat that.
Don’t care. It’s not because you aren’t “handsome”. It’s because you are a self-centered idiot.
But… I did beat that. You may be failing to get laid (can’t imagine why), but it’s never been a crime. I wasn’t involuntarily “celibate” I was forcibly so. If I had sex I was going to be court-martialed.
And people were trying to kill me while I was being actively denied the right to have sex.
So fuck off with your self-pity party.
30 years? Beat that!
I was 23 before I realized that I just wasn’t sexually attracted to anyone and that’s why I had no desire to be affectionate. Didn’t mean (and doesn’t mean) that the hormones and parts don’t work. Or that I didn’t want a boyfriend for the longest time. Haven’t (and will likely never have) a mate.
I think I win.
Also reportedly conventionally attractive and look like I’m about 20ish. (Which means that people treat me like shit until I tell them my age, which is loads and loads of fun.)
And I think this thread had about 150 comments when I went to bed 12 hours ago.
You guys ever have those days where everything looks awesome and you have no where to go?
I look fab and I’m just going to work.
Why the hell would you need to have a conversation with a woman when you already know what they’re thinking? I mean, you already know how women see you and conceptualize the world BECAUSE SCIENCE!
Also, 21 years of virginity =/= 21 years of sexlessness. Are you proposing that people should be sexed up from the moment of their birth? Because, no. Besides, you asked for dry spells, not years of virginity. Nice goal post shifting.
I think “offers” is apt, since anyone not committed to being a disingenuous dipshit knows that those are thinly veiled threats, not “offers”.
“I <3 Captain Jack Harkness. (And would have a chance with him! So would you Looksdude)
Pretty sure not the same for John Barrowman."
Unlike the omnisexual Captain, Barrowman's gay.
Ross — what are your preferred pronouns then?
I have days where I’m so sharp I have to make up somewhere to go just so I can keep showing off my outfit.*
*I’m paraphrasing the comedian, Sommore.
*pants*
I am finally caught up on this thread*
*IDK why, I always feel like I have to read the whole thing before posting. 😛
Anyway, my general idea was that Looks was kind of amusing when he was blabbering about divine proportions and linking to that site (IDK if it gives you viruses, just for the warning) where evidently Pi was the proportion of attractivenss, but now he is just tedious and annoying.
… I occasionally think “It would be nice to stay in tonight, but I’m having a REALLY good hair day, so I’m going out.”
I love it!
Plus, there’s nothing like being called a bitch for refusing somebody’s offer of sex. That is the absolute icing on the cake of any given day.
Definitely the cherry on the shit sundae. Love it!
I always used to go out after getting my hair did. My old hairdresser was genius, RIP.
Well. Okay. Not sure why it blockquoted EVERYTHING. Guess the blockquote monster is just pissed that I hadn’t made an offering before?
@looks law.
I see your adding ableist asshat to your list of currently off putting personality flaws. WHY ARE THEY LADIES NOT FALLING OVER THIS
ATTRACTIVE YOUNG MANANNOYING ASSHAT?yeah, the guy just accidentally asked her. It takes two to tango.
OOOH! OOH YEAH BABY, AVOIDING THAT QUESTION! SO SEXY!
humans are not peacocks.
lesson learned: fireflies are weird.
The real question is, is the winner symmetrical?
*sigh* looks law, I’m going to explain this to you. The kiss happens when SHE wants it to and when YOU want it to. Okay, it’s like, mutual. You both decide to kiss.
*sighs again* you CHOSE to walk up to her and she CHOOSES where to say yes or not. YOU BOTH ARE CHOOSING!!!!ELEVEN! SCIENCE!
my point was that humans are like animals in one way, but not other ways that contradict my theory, because I chose the one that fit my example and LALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU.
@ross
um and they still can be mocked for it. Like seriously?
@looksie
man, humans. Fireflies. What’s the difference?
@rossie.
scroll up, bub, it’s a site to mock misogyny. No one cares whether it’s a ‘joke’ or not.
@looks law
citation or it didn’t happen.
Also you should write for cosmo.
because you’re an annoying misogynist.
@pencuncium
I CAN BRING THE GUINEA PIGS! *SQUEES*
/sowwyz.
@ross
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like how?
@blitzgal
yeah, looks law is much more entertaining. My first science troll 😛
@elodieunderglass
And now that I know, I too am annoyed >:(
@gillian
Why are you so perfect? 😀
@ross
Wait they were I never knew. Here I thought blockquotes were just used to make it more clear who’s talking or not but apparently I just couldn’t see the quote marks on the keyboard.
….why do I care about the ‘classical method’? Are you a doctor, by any chance?*
*for some reason this line reminded me of pell 😛
*facepalm*
@nobianyuma
Strange, since he was whining about classic english 😛
@ross
well, I would assume so, with the MRA. And the republicans*…
*US ones at least 😛
If someone’s misgendered you, you can say so.
And, I think this comment is too long, so posting… sorry. And I still haven’t caught up. this is a long thread.
@Argenti
That was my point 🙂 Also he’s apparently monogamous from my quick readings, though exhibitionist
There’s a lot weird race stuff on puahate.
I noticed that. Like the guy quoted in the OP who carefully lists the race of every person he sees and caps it off with, “She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao.” Wait, why is he laughing his ass off? Is Indian better than white? Is it worse? If you’re an Indian girl, what color dude are you supposed to be dating? It’s like this whole new complicated level of racism where you need a manual just to figure out who to hate.
I find most of the actors listed by Looks attractive, but I appreciate male beauty in many forms. Also, my husband doesn’t look like any of those guys. He looks like Italian George Harrison.
Hah, Pecunium, just because you’re a martyr of a mangina white knight who apparently sold out to become the lapdog of the matriarchy doesnt mean the rest of us have to do too.
Dammit Falconer, I’m going to start invoicing you for coffee at this rate!
I’m just going to leave this here. Excuse me while I figure out how to get there at the right time.
Wow, I’m late to this thread… this is the first time I’ve ever looked at PUAHate and I suggest you all look at the Rejection Thread- seriously, this is something else.
http://puahate.com/showthread.php?t=63668
Here’s what FeminismEqualsFail has to say on the matter:
Alright, maybe that could seen a bit harsh, even if you have a creepy smile, or the woman is afraid to smile back for fear that it could be seen as a come-on, or because being a woman doesn’t automatically lumber her with the “duty” to be friendly and act the coquette with you, or because she’s had a shitty day, or any other reason which is none of your business… so how about a more moderate reaction?
I don’t know about you, but when I meet most people for the first time they get a “lukewarm” reaction- when I know nothing about a person I find it hard to overreact and start humping their leg. Maybe I’m being too British here, but showing someone what I think about them sexually when we’ve only just met seems plain rude.
…so how about a more enthusiastic response? Maybe not a curtsey or grovelling at their feet, but a smile can’t hurt, right?
Sorry girls, it looks like we can’t win here… and when men have standards this high, why should we even bother, eh? And why have they not considered the idea that living up to their standards may be too exhausting to be worth bothering with when there are plenty of nice guys out there who aren’t Nice Guys™?
That’s not the worst of it… check this out, from a guy who considers some immature teenagers laughing at him “rejection”:
This from a guy who chose the username “Brian Peppers”… seriously “Brian”, it’s not us, it’s you. Ewwww.