The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
Even this wouldn’t work, you never know what kind of recessive ugly might pop up.
thanks for the clarification.
Virgin women here are Vocel. Probably holding out for some reason related to a Romance Novel or something.
A woman just needs to walk outside to get “offfers” for sex.
I have the longest dry spell on here. 21 years of virginity.
Kissless, hugless, handholdless, touchless. I haven’t had a conversation with a woman since December 29th 2012. Last year!
Never even been alone with a girl in a room or on a date.
Never gone anywhere with a girl. Not even to get ice-cream. Never gone to see a movie with a girl Nothing. Completely Incel.
Beat that.
This isn’t a competition.
However, like I said earlier: If you walk up to women and ask last time they had sex they probably aren’t going to want to date you. They will probably want to be as far away from your creepy self as possible.
Dumbass, do you think those “offers” work? Because I have never, not once, repsonded to those “offers.” Not has anyone I know.
Oh, the huge manatee! Call the wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmbulance!
So, one of the trolls here can’t handle horomones of horniness?
Try being me dude. Every once in a while, my horomones go off the scale and I’m 24/7 horny for months at a time and those times tend to be when I don’t have a partner, and I’m not one to seek out partners.
Usually, that level of horny is only the first week of the month for me, but hey, my body can be wierd like that.
Yet somehow my attitude towards men, despite being constantly told how horny they all are, never became “those fucking bastards! How dare they leave me sexually unfufilled!”
I really really don’t want to engage looks law if he’s not taking my advice, so I will ponder this question in a theoretical space.
If one has not had a conversation with a woman for nearly 3 months (not including this webboard obviously), does that mean one has not had to go to the doctor, make an appointment for something, go to the bank, call a utility company, go to the grocery, or otherwise interact with modern society in any way?
I can imagine in a forcibly segregated society this might happen.
Women I had a conversation with today include: the bank teller, the real estate agent, the lady selling her house, that lady’s daughter, the mortgage loan officer.
Yesterday I think I stayed in the house all day because of the weather so probably didn’t talk to any women.
The day before it was the receptionist at the doctor’s office, the home nursing line, the mortgage officer, the veterinary assistant, and the grocery store clerk.
Granted, these aren’t deep intellectual conversations, but we are polite and have some back and forth and they are conversations.
You’re a narcissistic asshole.
Go tell it to your friends on puahate.
“the 13-year-old victim of sexual assault in CT”
Just FTR here, no CT news source is going to say rape because there is no such law here. Just degrees of sexual assault. So that second degree sexual assault charge? The act(s) under it would, in lay terms, be rape. Legally though, sexual assault.
Point here is she may’ve been raped by logical, non-legal, standards. /CT law pedantry
OH MY GOD HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? I go to read a poorly-written brain candy Jodi Picoult book and get some sleep and the world explodes! (Picoult says she does so much research but she doesn’t seem to know that the tibia and fibula are bones in the leg, the radius and ulna are the equivalent bones in the arm, arrrgh)
But I am laughing so hard at the stuff I have skim-read. There is a name for Apocalypse Openers! I had one once, a girl came up to me at a party, looked down at my feet and said “Nice shoes, d’ya wanna fuck?” She was very pretty, and then very embarrassed as I told her I don’t swing that way. But apparently women never approach men?!?!
Also, “hooking up with a bull” – Sorry, but that just makes me think of lesbians. Some of them call older butches “bulls” or “old bulls”. So perhaps the reason she rejected you is that she likes butch women.
Also also, I love that according to these people, my brother and his girlfriend; or my best friend and her boyfriend, don’t exist.
My brother is 5’10”, fat, effeminate and a middle manager at a supermarket. He and his girlfriend have been together seven years now. My bro is also charming, outgoing, intelligent and into the same things as his partner. They met through a friend because they are both house music DJ’s. His partner is pretty, well groomed, and an insurance assessor. Partnering up?
My best friend is a pretty, late blooming woman, who is about to go on her first posting as a diplomat. She has money, an amazing career and a boyfriend who is a scruffy-looking bus driver. I personally don’t like they guy, but I can’t deny he makes her happy.
And LOL at “gays are so horny they have sex outdoors” – How about, closeted middle-aged men don’t know where to find gay sex, have children at home, and end up picking up rent-boys in public bathrooms because they can’t be seen in a gay bar.
Okay, so Looks,
At what age did you expect to start having sex?
me dude. Every once in a
while, my horomones go off the scale
and I’m 24/7 horny for months at a
time and those times tend to be
when I don’t have a partner, and I’m
not one to seek out partners
^^^
Ofcourse you don’t seek out partners, you don’t have to. You’re a woman.
/delurks
Looksie, I married a soldier. How about you combine that sexual frustration with unimaginable stress and gut-wrenching worry that keeps you up all night? Because then you’ll get a hint of what EVERY. OTHER. YEAR. is like for us. Him and I both. Deployments are hell for everyone involved, and whiny little bitches like you piss me right the fuck off.
/rant
And the reason you’re pathetic is not because you’re an incel. The reason you’re pathetic is because you blame everyone for your lack of sex while doing your best to project the most bitter loathsome personality possible. You portray yourself as a martyr, while the rest of us watch you pounding the nails into your own hands.
You want a figment promised to you by popular culture. You drip contempt for women despite claiming you want one. You would have no idea what to do with a relationship if you actually had one.
Getting laid will change nothing in your miserable life.
You alone have the power to change. Get therapy. Let go of that useless rage and self loathing. It won’t get you laid, but you’ll be a FUCKLOAD of a lot happier.
Clarification plz, are we counting from BIRTH our lack of sexy times? (Looksy, are you 21 yourself?)
Also, I’m not good at logical fallacies, but isn’t saying “well, women who are virgins are voluntarily celibate UNLIKE ME!1!!1!” a No True Scotsman, of a sort? Like, any woman who’s had sex is therefor not an incel, and any woman who hasn’t had sex automatically doesn’t count?
I still want my list of non-conventionally attractive leading ladies of Hollywood.
So… you’re a 21-year-old virgin. You poor child, do you have any idea how normal and not remotely a problem that is? For heaven’s sake, it’s only been LEGAL for you to have sex for a couple of years.
As for me, I lost my virginity at 20. OMG 20 YEAR DRY SPELL HOW DID I SURVIVE
Stop being a dick to women if you want them to hang out with you. Problem solved.
I know, right? Oh the privilege of being offered sex by people in whom I have no sexual interest. It’s wonderful. There’s nothing like having people you aren’t attracted to offering you sex while you’re trying to pick out shallots or get your oil changed or visit a dying friend in the hospital or buying booze for your uncle’s repast.
It’s wonderful.
WRONG, I win!
And to be even, for men in the last few days, I had conversations with the other real estate agent, the home inspector, the lead inspector, another grocery store clerk, a different mortgage loan officer, and a doctor.
…that would have saved me a lot of typing.
It’s like they all expected to be having sex when they were 14 years old.
Here’s how this straight woman sees those big “hot” Hollywood actors.
– meh
– yes, but he’s also shorter so doesn’t that poke a hole in the “women want tall bulls” theory?
– ick. No, seriously, his smile wigs me out.
– who?
– really? You REALLY think Dicaprio was the main draw for that movie when, I dunno, you had someone like Jamie Foxx in the role the movie is named for? (Do I detect a smidgen of racism here? Is there a reason why Looks can’t acknowledge that perhaps a black man in the lead role might have been the main attractiveness draw?)
– pleh, I say. Dicaprio does nothing for me.
– who?
– meh
– again, yes, but he’s also shorter so doesn’t that poke a hole in the “women want tall bulls” theory?
– again, pleh
– pleh
– who?
– yes, him I do see as very attractive. Way to go, you’re 1/11.
For a guy claiming to be able to tell what women want based on SCIENCE, your accuracy at actually doing so is less than 10%. Good job. How’s that SCIENCE working out for you?
Nothing better, really. I don’t know about you, but those extra obstacles to getting my shit done and going about my day is what I get out of bed for.
Or the guys following me around offering me sex. Including rather graphic descriptions. Or walking down the street and having masturbate screamed at you. So, charming. How lucky I am to be a woman. So, many offers from strange men.
Or how about when I want to go dancing and men try to not only offer sex, but instigate it on the dance floor. And apparently telling them to back off only encourages these nice men to man handle my butt. Because they are just letting me know that they would totally be down to have sex. How wonderful.