The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
But Blitzgal: Virgil’s suffering is truly the only suffering that matters. /sarcasm
Virge: get bent.
Lollll, Nostradumbass. So stealing that.
Yep, now I’m sorry I tried to engage reasonably at all. Get a Fleshlight, Looks, and STFU.
Have fun with ’em, folks! I’m finally free to go!!
Well, that’s clearly how he thinks.
I also didn’t lose my virginity until 25, so echoing Bagelsan — are we counting from birth? What do I win for not slooting? Unless you count the time from age 3-5 when I was molested by my daycare provider. Then I guess just 22 years, since I was getting some for those three.
Fixed that for you! Even in a society full of prejudice,people are, unsurprisingly, able to make choices in many situations.
Also, fuck off and stop being an arrogant asshat. As much as you wish your experiences were universal, they are not. Sorry.
Sorry, I don’t mean to trigger anyone. My humor goes very, very dark when I’m angry, and this entitled asshole pisses me off.
I’m so sorry, Blitzgal. Jedi hugs.
Anybody have the mad skillz to put mantis mandible on the darth vader picture?
That seems like fun.
I’m also pretty sure I could live as a man for a month without problems. Not at the moment though. It might cause some issues with gestation.
::gives second thought to releasing eggs in pond water::
Longest dry spell: 19.5 years to date. Oh, and nine months.
And no realistic sign of an opportunity to have sex in the immediate future.
Eh. Life goes on.
Seriously, this kind of stuff did worry me a lot more in high school.
LOOKS ARE EVERYTHING
Dude, it could be really cool to switch sexes for a month.
It sounds like they looked like the terminator in the first movie. /random
me too! big noses are really beautiful and underrated 😀
no though it’s still bugging me why is looks randomly capitalized.
Well, I understood that they hated women…
@looks law
um, I can believe that. Unless the attractive man was also nice. Or at least not a jerk. I think people have varying differences of how much they care about looks in a date, but most care about personality too. Also, apparently David is really unattractive? All I know is that he is fat, and apparently this makes him really unattractive.
have you ever seen a movie? they have lots of attractive women too, its not a man-only thing, bub.
so what if they are snogging people who aren’t their boyfriends? Why does it matter so much to you, troll boy?
well, no guarantees, but a much better chance than whining on the internet about how bitches won’t fuck them.
it’s okay looks law. I will end the mystery. I will tell you where your bad traits came from.
…
are you listening?
Your icky misogyny and all around hatefullness. Now that you know, you can change. It is totally up to you. Personalities are not genetic, mr ‘science’
quotes or it didn’t happen. 😛
seeing the way you act, you did deserve it 😛
aww, is trolly a little bitter? there there. Also, seeing how you are here, I bet it is possible to get a vibe of self hate in real life w/ you.
so, would you or wouldn’t you? cuz you seem to think not boning poor you is treating men like crap, but you know, first sentence up there.
I wish I lived on your planet, instead of, you know, Earth.
citation needed.
do you ever read? 😛
omg, is this going to be one of those pretentious atheist trolls! *squees in excitement*
@cassandra
I too should cut down my caffeine intake, as that’s what’s causing these long comments 😉
@looks law
Should I blow Virgil’s tiny mind and tell him hat even being married is no guarantee of steady sex, if you have a partner with health issues? Mr. HK isn’t always in a sexy-time place, so you know, there are ways.
So I can talk absolute shit, have
people take me seriously, AND make
30% more money? Sign my ass up.
^^^
Bitterness is strong in this one.
Isn’t that a pleasant attitude to have there sweet cheeks? 🙂
The irony of you calling anyone else bitter is rich, Virgil. You don’t understand humor, do you?
Don’t call me sweet-cheeks, asshole.
@marie – I like big noses too (on both men and women). I agree, they can add character to the face.
Looksie: Males on here please don’t answer (Liars/internet casanovas).
I don’t think you people understand what its like to be INVOLUNTARY CELIBATE.
You don’t know what its like to not be able to get sex.
I’ve already done it. Since I became sexually active it was about a year.
Which is more than one of the PUAHate dudes, who calls himself, 120 days of incel. I went longer than that once, because I was legally prohibited from fucking… as in I could have gone to jail.
Cry me a fucking river.
Looksie: I know big strong strapping men with
big muscles.
They don’t look like that.
^^^
The right genes + the right diet can get a person that body and Face.
Not quite. I used to work in Hollywood. Make up, good lighting, and a DP who works with your best angles can get you that. See them in person and most don’t measure up (Rutger Hauer being an exception: he’s also a really nice guy, but I digress).
Question: Do you admire me? What about Falconer? Both of us are, “Defying science” by dating women (at least one of us is dating more than one woman; with the knowledge of all of them).
Also, you seem to have ignored most of the comments I directed to you. Shall I assume you have seen the error of your previous ways or is it just, “typical avoidant behaviour ?
If not, I shall have to conclude you lack any facts with which to refute me. If you continue to engage in non-response, I accept your concession.
Longest period without PiV sex… still technically a PiV virgin at 36.
Longest period without a relationship… about a decade.
Longest period without a toe-curling orgasm?
*checks watch*
6 hours.
And I’m a dude.
And even if I never have another relationship, I will never be as pathetic as you, Virgil.
Looksy, longest dry spell? Twenty two years. And guess what? That kinda time happens to all of us, its called growing up.
Otherwise, seven years. Despite being “hot”. Why? A little bit because asshats like you go around convincing men that they don’t stand a chance of getting a date with a good looking woman and so they end up too intimidated to ask. Some of it because I was focusing on other things in life.
They opposed misogynist attitudes towards sexuality. But I guess that’s the same as saying that they wanted to be the sluts they ostensibly all were since you’re a misogynist.
Quite a few men don’t experience this “Involuntary Celibacy” you speak of. You don’t speak for all men so shut the fuck up.
It really shows how much you respect the various experiences men when you blindly assume that they all have the same exact experiences.
pecunium, what’s a DP, in context?
Since it definitely is not what comes to mind for me.
Looks ignored everyone……I guess he doesn’t have a rebuttal?
Or was sweet cheeks and bitterness the rebuttal?
Bitterness? Because you know being told if you don’t put out you are a prude/ice queen and if you do put out you are a whore/slut is great. Making less money than a man doing the exact same job is fabulous. Being ignored because you are a woman is fine. Being told a woman couldn’t be president because HORMONES is just peachy. Seeing yourself underrepresented in government just makes me smile. Being told that if I get raped or sexually assaulted it is my fault because reasons is endearing.
Ugh, seriously, “this one girl rejected me in a club and then kissed another dude, bitchez be hypergamous sluts it’s SCIENCE!” I mean, really, the obvious answer is that life ain’t a club, bro. And thank heaven for that. I like things like sleeping and reading and walking my dog. Dancing and drinking is fine every once in a while, but seriously, there’s a reason why it’s rare couples you know who are really successful say they met in a club because there are so many other things people do aside from go to clubs. Not to mention, it’s hard to actually get to know someone in a club. Don’t have much in the way of looks? Don’t go somewhere that’s got the music cranked up so loud people often feel they have no choice but to judge by outward appearances (which includes body language). By his theory, every child in the world is conceived in the bathroom of a club via only the most tallest, male-model-ish “bulls” (possible racist dogwhistle?) and that somehow, despite the fact that ONLY objectively “handsome” men are able to reproduce, objectively ugly people are still born to a life of fucklessness (well, only men, ugly bitchez will still bone because, male sex drives or unicorns or hypergamous spite or some shit). Seriously, if looks are EVERYTHING in terms of sex because only the prettiest reproduce, the world would have only pretty people.
Also, seriously, if women have all the sexual power that means men never turn down a woman. Apparently my having asked a guy to my college formal and getting rejected NEVER HAPPENED.*. Guys are the only ones bullied for their looks? Don’t make me laugh. Apparently the carload of dudes who mooed at one of my heavier girlfriends as she was walking to meet me for dinner also NEVER HAPPENED. The pimply girl with hand me down clothes and greasy hair at my high school who everyone threw spitballs at and tripped and tormented for 4 endless years also NEVER HAPPENED. My sister was never yelled at by a random stranger in a car to “move your [her] fat ass!” I never got a brick sized rock thrown at my back or had classmates draw inappropriate caricatures of me on chalkboards. Zooey Deschanel of all people getting hateraid thrown at her for wearing “too much” make-up also NEVER EVER happened. Maybe the real problem is Looks is living in an alternate universe *cue Twilight Zone music*?
Also, as blitzgal said, going up to someone IS in fact an act of choosing. These guys never seem to think that women who don’t get approached in clubs exist, except for when it’s fun for THEM to make fun of those “landwhales” or “ugly hags”. If you hate yourself because you think you lost the genetic lottery, fine, but then stop contributing to the culture of hating people you deem visually unacceptable. It’s perfectly acceptable to have preferences, but BULLSHIT to hate people who don’t meet your standards and makes you no better than those “bullying cunts who wen’t ‘EWWWWW’!” at you. Blaming it on “SCIENCE!” is a bullshit cop out for you to be horrible and refuse to look inwardly at shit you CAN control (like your attitude).
starskita: pecunium, what’s a DP, in context?
Sorry, I forgot not everyone speaks movie. DP = Director of Photography.