The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
Oh, god, no. No, they aren’t. They really aren’t.
Oh, god. The facepalm.
I know big strong strapping men with big muscles.
They don’t look like that.
Even the hypergamous ones. (I can say that, right? Even though it’s not a thing? We all get I’m joking?)
@Bagelsan
No problem not to care. Not your job.
I have learned that when certain people (e.g. me) are lashing out in real life, giving them boilerplate sincerity is the only thing that’s remotely helpful.
It comes down to saying, if you’re serious, take care of it like so, because I can’t do anything for you. If you’re not serious, I’m not listening. Making my boilerplate list over and over again doesn’t hurt me any (and its a good reminder for my own self) but there’s no reason you have to treat him the same way I do. I just see myself in his writing and I wish he’d go take care of himself (and stop being ridiculous) but its really up to him since I’m over here on the other side of the internet. Even if for some reason I was there in person, all I could do would be walk him to the counseling center or call 911.
This, exactly. And regarding celebrities, there are several men who are conventionally attractive who I find repellent because of their personalities. Mel Gibson is number one on that list.
My sister’s always teasing me that I fall in love with film characters and not the actors themselves.
I love DeNiro circa Heat but not so much New York! New York! when he was arguably younger and “prettier”.
I love Sidney Poitier in For the Love of Ivy but not so much The Lillies of the Field.
@Bagelsan Absolutely! My perceptions of people’s looks change wildly as my relationships with them/closeness with them changes.
@ Howard Bannister
John Barrowman seems like a great guy to be friends with, but not the appropriate sex partner for me. 🙂
You’re accusing women of being “butthurt”?
Really.
Really?!
You’re on this site to complain about us making fun of puahate, but we’re the ones who are butthurt?
Have you seen anyone here complain that not looking like Kate Upton has made them unhappy and reviled, with no friends?
I mean, I’m not gonna lie that I’ve never turned my head a little to watch certain guys on the street, but liking someone or wanting to sleep with them is a lot more complicated than thinking “oh, pretty” and moving along.
Should I blow the kid’s mind? I find both Megan Fox and Kate Upton attractive, and wouldn’t kick either of them out of bed.
Pro tip # 3 – Not all women are straight.
Is it wrong that I think Megan Fox is hot, too? I even saw her in Transformers but nope, still attracted somehow. :p
I know big strong strapping men with
big muscles.
They don’t look like that.
^^^
The right genes + the right diet can get a person that body and Face.
I see a few Hollywood calibre men. They hang out in more affluent areas of society.
Lol @ a Tall Strong Mandibled, High placed cheekbone having men with chiseled physiques being unrealistic.
Fat, pieces of genetic waste is realism to you?
@melody You know, that’s when I really decided that I liked John Barrowman (Captain Jack) as an actor. Sure, he was pretty and charming through Doctor Who and the early days of Torchwood but he didn’t shirk from emotional depths and dark, even truly awful behavior as that series went on. It almost made up for what a prat he could be in interviews…
Was it Looksie Lou who was refusing to admit that Benedict Cumberbatch is also a HOT LEADING MALE(TM) because he wasn’t blonde and buff and American and all that. Because, you know, he and Zachary Quinto have more presence than Chris Pine. Cumberbatch is elegant and effective as Sherlock Holmes, though there I’d definitely prefer Martin Freeman.
And how could I forget the magnificent Simon Pegg?
Cumberbatch is elegant and effective as Sherlock Holmes, though there I’d definitely prefer Martin Freeman.
Agggh you’re fucking reading my mind. *fangirls away*
Jeffster: I don’t use blockquotes, and no one cares.
What do is offset my use of quotation from my original text. You don’t. That’s more than just a lack of adherence to local style, it’s a lack of respect for your audience.
Which comes as no surprise.
Jesus, this Looks guy is as bad as Rimmer because, like Rimmer, nothing’s his fault. It’s all his genes, or his parents, or women
, or that chutney-swilling slob he’s forced to spend the rest of his life with.Looks like someone’d rather whine than decide what course(s) of action would best help him achieve his goals. And I hope that his goals include a loving, caring, reciprocal sexual relationship because self-absorption doesn’t make for a very good lover, and just taking what he wants is not to be thought of.
Strong Mandibled
Yes, but can I cannibalize them as we mate? Hemworth looks chewy. 😀
Strong Mandibled
STRONG MANDIBLED
Women who are upset about unrealistic standards of beauty promoted by Hollywood = butthurt bitchz!
But Hemsworth and Hardy = FEMALE TREACHERY!! OPRESHUNZ OF TEH ORDINERY MENZ!!!
qft.
@melodyraewood
Yay! 😀 congrats.
@cassandrasays
now I wonder if they one of their reasons the think women must have easy time getting laid is they aren’t at incel forums often, when in reality its probably both socialization differences (ex, if a man isn’t getting a dating it’s a woman’s problem, and if a woman isn’t getting a date…it’s still her problem.) And their toxic misogyny. That would keep a good number of women away 😉 /thinking way to much about this.
@some gal
Sorry to hear about your back pain. Hope you feel better when you get your injections 🙂
@weeboy
Yay! Your kitty avatar is cute 😀
@annoy
I…I’m not sure how to break this down for you annoy, but women have sexual urges. It’s true. I’ll go with stereotypes for you, since that seems simple: go read some porny fanfic. 😉 Also, try not to be such a transphobic asshat. Some men can give birth and get pregnant.
@looks law
somehow, if they have, I doubt it’s due to being straight dudes.
braces self for science failure.
Wait, they defy science by dating women? I mean straight people dating isn’t exactly unheard of.
idk man, I’m a modern woman and I only make fun of men for being misogynistic (or other ism). And those do active harm.
actually, I’m not seeking a mate, but whatever you say, since you seem to be the telepath. Quick, tell me more about my vagina!
No. I just don’t think it happens to straight white cis guys BECAUSE they are straight and white. It CAN HAPPEN TO THEM for different reasons. But orientation, gender/ gender identity, and race are not the cause.
have you met them before? because that would explain a lot….
…why…why was looks capitalized here? I do not understand.
noone’s saying they don’t exist, they’re just saying they aren’t like, the majority of women. These concepts are not that hard to understand, troll boy, if one is not a misogynistic asshat.
Maybe oneday, science can bottle beauty. And we will sell beauty, we have reaped from symmetry, with this measurable beauty. Everyone will get perfectly symmetrical faces, which actually looks weird if you do it in photoshop, but my eyes probably just hurt because they could not comprehend the pretty.
Ok, that didn’t make much sense, but I think it made more sense than troll boy, so I’ll leave it in here.
…cars…have similar measurements to mountains. I have trouble believing this, but I guess that’s why I’ll never understand science.
@kittehs
channeling troll: WHAT THEY ARE THE SAME EVEYWHERE! SOCIALIZATION DOES NOT EXIST! SYMMETRY! SCIENCE!
@looks law
umm…are we avoiding you, or disagreeing with you? Words have meanings, you know.
divine proportion? did god give us beauty? what does that even mean, I can’t even understand.
*praying* Thank you god, for giving me an asymetric face so looks law will never try to flirt with me.
Well clearly you care 😛
well, yeah I assume that, cuz they’re raging misogynists. Sheesh.
if this were true, the world would be a lot nicer, because there are not that many puahaters out there.
you really should get your social cues from real life, looks, and not tv.
Well, bad marie is commenting w/o finishing again, like I always do, but I had to
carefully dismantle troll boys argumentspoke the troll because I was bored and caffinated. Be right back when I finish 😀Damn you Bagelsan, I never saw you coming.
What is this shit? Look, if you’re not really Ross Jefferies, you need to change your fucking name. If you want to act like your baseline Tumblr SJW, knock yourself the fuck out.
There it is – the obsession with cheekbones.
Virgil’s still here?
Falconer, neither of us expected the MANDIBLES.
Cheekbones!
This is the HAWTTEST actor ever. it’s SCIENCE