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How to Hate and Envy Every Single Person in the World, PUAhate edition

Some guys get all the chicks
Some guys get all the chicks

The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.

As one PUAhater put it recently:

PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong

the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it

So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.

But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.

Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.

One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:

To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?

Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.

Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.

But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)

The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.

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Gillian
11 years ago

LOL! Delta of Venus would have made him utterly lose his shit. He thought D.H. Lawrence was “smutty”.

teiresias
teiresias
11 years ago

CassandraSays:

Well, Werner Erhard always said that no one actually needed what he did… still, i’m pretty sure inducing a manic state is not a good outcome for any form of *ahem* therapy.

Ross Jeffries
Ross Jeffries
11 years ago

“LOL! Delta of Venus would have made him utterly lose his shit. He thought D.H. Lawrence was “smutty”.”

You’re obviously not a very good teacher. Would it have been so hard to correct him?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

When I worked at the company where they made people do The Forum it was like they’d just done a shitload of coke right after suffering a major concussion. That shit is nasty, it really messes with people’s heads.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Some of the transphobia here is very disappointing.

Excuse you?

Look, it’s like baby’s first Social Justice Term Rodeo.

Ross Jeffries
Ross Jeffries
11 years ago

“Look, it’s like baby’s first Social Justice Term Rodeo.”

We’ve already talked about your prejudice and blind hate.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

I can’t believe I miss the fun troll and get stuck with this asshole. Also, I want a cat on my shoulder, if you’ve never seen a block quote in a book then you aren’t reading the really difficult stuff, I asked the boyfriend out first does this mean I got to choose him twice?, I don’t like the students who call every author by their first name and first name only.

I missed a lot of fun. 🙁 But I loved all the kitties and doggies and comics. 🙂

teiresias
teiresias
11 years ago

It makes me think of the article Martin Gardner wrote on EST years ago (it’s in “Science: Good, Bad and Bogus”). There was a quote from a session where an instructor gets a little old lady to sing a dirty song by saying that once they were done, the audience wouldn’t know the difference between “spaghetti” and “fuck”. (I may be misquoting, but “spaghetti” and “fuck” were definitely involved somehow.)

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Ross: dance harder, monkey!

cloudiah
11 years ago

I also had a student in one of my classes who would only ever refer to an author as “he” even when we were discussing people like Virginia Woolf and Jane Austen.

In high school Latin, for some reason we developed the habit of referring to Virgil as “they” which would cause our teacher to explode “The Aeneid was NOT written by a committee!”

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

My feeling is that any course that can produce a complete change in personality within 2 days is nasty, scary, dangerous stuff. And that’s before you even get to all the psychotic breaks it’s caused.

The Mystery-style stuff is bad enough, that’s basically just charging fools a bunch of money to teach them how to irritate and confuse as many women as possible in a single night at a club, but the Erhard stuff is dangerous, because it often leaves people genuinely unstable.

cloudiah
11 years ago

And I am both glad that I finally got a very good night’s sleep, and sad that I missed mocking Looksie.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

I’m sure Looksie will be back after he’s had a nice little nap and walked over to the campus coffee shop for a pick-me-up.

Gillian
11 years ago

@Some Gal Or deliberately mispronounce a name! I had a professor who insisted in Anglicizing all the ‘forn’ names that came up. Because it’s so hard to learn to say “valter benyameen” or “louwee altwosayr” whenever you see the names Walter Benjamin or Louis Althusser.

cloudiah
11 years ago

@CassandraSays, There used to be a small, far left group in the US that used some variant of (I think it was) EST to totally break down their recruits’ sense of self. I knew a woman who had been a member in her early 20s and a decade later she was still going to therapy to deal with the fallout.

pecunium
11 years ago

Abnoy: In the same way that a man will never be able to really understand what it means to get pregnant and give birth, women will never be able to really understand what it means to be sexually frustrated for a man, especially a young one, simply because they don’t have the male reproductive system. Imagine the time when you were most sexually frustrated yourself, CUBE it, and then keep it constant 24/7, and then you have the sexual frustration of the AVERAGE red-blooded human male upon hitting sexual puberty.

You moron. Since you are not a woman, you don’t know that women don’t have precisely the same levels of horny/frustrated.

You

Are

Not

Special.

Suck it up, and drive on.

pecunium
11 years ago

Looks_Low: Looks Theory is biology and observable fact.

We admire men who manage to defy science and ” date women”

Let’s look at some of that, “admiration”

Jabbathehut has one way to put all of uf to shame! He just has to lose his virginity. Prove us than mangina game is legit you fat turd.

It’s even worse than that. The guy is so Omega that he’s not even begging for pity sex he’s just looking for female approval by being the ultimate whiteknight. See how low incelness can drag you.

I just discovered this fat piece of politically correct shit. He is the ultimate mangina. This has to be fake, this is not conceivable.

because people with low standards( like you) were genetically impaired to begin with. People like you were destined to fight for scraps, that’s why you have a leftist (poor me) mind set. It’s must be nice knowing that you’ve already learned your place without much resentment.

Lot’s of “admiration”.

How about this: He’s a normalfag fatty fucker who overrates the women he gets

Yep, nothing there but support for dudes who managed to, “beat the system”.

Is a negative feedback loop from being treated badly throughout your life not a more plausible explanation for a non-positive outlook?

Than what?

Is it possible that a, different, postive feedback loop (which is actually what you are saying above; you don’t understand how negative/positive work in feedback loops) of someone being a jerk, and asshole, and getting the response that deserves, makes them even more of a jerk and asshole; as well as bitter?

Question 2. Do you deny , YES or NO, that people treat you differently depending on your Looks, Social status or wealth?

That’s a stupid question. Do you have some evidence to support your implied contention that “good looks” are the reason people are treating you badly? Not surmises and just so stories, but evidence?

pecunium
11 years ago

Looks Low: Yeah its your fault because you arent a nice person to be around. i mean wtf? You’ re Assuming that puahaters are idiots who go around being mean to people and expect positive behaviour?

Assuming? No. Accepting.

this is how it should be .. women should know their god damn place and submit like good little girls

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

@ cloudiah

Was she evangelical about it, or was she already past that stage when you met her? It’s just occurring to me that if one group of PUA gurus are using EST techniques that would totally explain why they’re so obnoxiously evangelical – it’s part of the training.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

@Gillian

That’s horrible. All that is going to result is his students sounding uneducated.

Fun fact: I know a professor who lost out on a tenure track position in part because she mispronounced the name of the author she was discussing every single time she said her name.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Reddit has a TV show.

Imagine if r/mensrights became a sitcom.

cloudiah
11 years ago

She was past that stage when I knew her, but was totally evangelical about it for the few years she spent with them.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

I could always tell who’d just done those trainings because of how weird their speech patterns and body language were, and how unlike themselves they seemed.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

@Gillian

I guess I shouldn’t say “his” as you didn’t. I assumed you had, Sorry about that.

“All that is going to result is his or her students sounding uneducated.”

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
11 years ago

An online course in remedial patronizing for trolls could make some serious money.
Better trolls plz?

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