The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
Seriously, Looksy is a trolling genius compared to this guy.
Relevant! http://xkcd.com/1178/
(xkcd is always relevant.)
“The dictionary?”
No, the dictionary doesn’t decide the emotional impact of words. Sorry to break it to you. It also doesn’t decide that anyone who uses a particular word or style of language must also share those beliefs. For then, verbal irony would be impossible.
Okay, Ross, the dictionary plus non-stupid people decided it. I just thought I’d leave that last bit out, on account of not making you ragesplode in confused indignation. (“Is she calling me stupid???”)
OMG this is totally making my day! I’ve been a bit stressed with a couple of big deadlines coming up, and being able to laugh this much is awesome!
More! Tell us more about how we’re doing punctuation totally wrong! I didn’t put quotes around your words up there, didja see?
Who was that troll, the “and that’s real” guy? We need a way to track, index and search comments by screen name so that I can go back and reread that stuff. It’s priceless!
Ross: You really are dumber than a bag of hair. Wow. It’s cute that you’re trying all, but it’s getting embarrassing. For you.
Verbal irony? LOL
Ooh, wanna know the mysterious feminine signals I used to force my boyfriend to ask me out? I name-dropped Starcraft! Then he asked my APM. It’s the nerd equivalent of steamy looks across the dance floor.
I’m trying to appreciate Ross’ point that the PUAHate stuff is ‘trolling’ and ‘non-serious.’
Pause.
Beat.
Thinking.
No, I don’t see it. In fact, it seems… dismissive. It’s as if he can’t engage with their ideas because the very idea that his toolbox doesn’t work causes his brain to explode.
There’s a disconnect there.
I guess this is what happens when you’re too sexist to pay attention to your English teachers.
Jeffries, how about we save a little time?
We don’t ascribe to the notion that the only relevant meaning of misogyny is hating women so much you want to kill them or whatever incredibly narrow definition you and other fuckwits believe absolves you and other “trolls” from the charge.
We mock misogyny. Our definition(s) are not so broad as to be useless (see your pathetic attempt to joke about a man being approached as a type of misogyny) but they are inevitably more inclusive than your own.
But, like I said, you’re a fuckwit so your opinion doesn’t really matter.
“I only say hateful things in an ironic manner. That this causes as much damage as those who say it non-ironically means nothing. My intent is FUCKING MAGIC.”
Thanks, Ross.
Off topic, but the same shit in Steubenville is now going down in Torrington, CT. This time it’s two 18 year old football players and a 13 year old girl. The town has rallied around the rapists and the girl is being harassed through social media.
http://www.registercitizen.com/articles/2013/03/20/news/doc51493e14b1a0a944806262.txt
What the fuck goes through people’s minds when they do this shit? Why the fuck would anyone identify with the rapist?!
I think the super secret lady signal I used on MR C was called “leaning in for a kiss”. Since I respect his masculine need for dignity and all, I did pause and wait for him to meet me halfway.
I actually asked a bag of hair about misogyny once, and its answer was more coherent than Ross’. True story.
Oh, look! He thinks we can’t tell the difference between sincerity and irony! He thinks that Teh Ebil Feminizm! makes it impossible to discern meaning from context, bless his heart!
“More! Tell us more about how we’re doing punctuation totally wrong! I didn’t put quotes around your words up there, didja see?”
That’s fine. I don’t care. It was just hilarious seeing how people got so butthurt over the fact I wasn’t using their blockquote system they felt it was important enough to point out. LOL.
In at least some cases I’m not sure you’re going to like the rather obvious answer to that question.
“Oh, look! He thinks we can’t tell the difference between sincerity and irony! ”
David can’t, LOL. Keep fighting the good fight though.
@blitzgal: Thanks, now you owe me a bottle of brain bleach. :/
You realize that the whole point of the blockquotes is not, strictly, an adherence to the rules of grammar but the ability to organize thoughts and clearly illustrate the difference between your own writing, and the comment you’re quoting, right?
Right? Please tell me you understand this?
In other news, I find it kind of adorable the way you type “lol” like a teenager. Truly.
Rossiekins: To troll a feminist site using misogynistic language is, in fact, misogynistic. If they weren’t misogynistic fuckwits, they wouldn’t be trolling a feminist site in the first place. In the unlikely event that you do not, in fact, understand why this is, I recommend the Jackson Professional Tools 18 lb crowbar. An associate with sufficient leverage should be able to use it to pry your head from where it currently lodged.
Also, you lying little twit, I can’t help but notice that you’ve failed to identify people from this blog who are trolling the PUAHate site. Thanks for the tacit admission that you are incapable of honesty.
You don’t actually understand what “irony” is, do you?
Rossy, the thing isn’t that we’re getting saddlesore over you not using the blockquotes.
It’s that this community has had many an errant troll amble their way through here, leaving trails of varying degrees of bizarro, hateful, incoherant shit, and I have seen a vast quantity. I do not recall seeing a single troll use blockquotes, even those who have wordpress blogs themselves and are likely to have knowledge of such things.
‘Tis an interesting observation, nothing more.
Definitely a portion of people identify with the rapist because they themselves are rapists, but most people are not rapists, and some of those non-rapists are identifying with the rapist. It boggles my mind. Rape culture, we’re soaking in it.
@Bagelson: Done! Kitties adorably falling, in gif format (no kitties are harmed).
http://www.buzzfeed.com/daniheckman/22-major-cat-fails-7w57