The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
I’ve been asked out by women at least twice. Perhaps more but I was too oblivious to realize.
I’ve been at a club and have a woman walk up to me and ask what I’m drinking.
No, my first kiss only happened because the woman asked if I’d like to.
I have never weighed less than 220 pounds in my adult life. I’m tall, but not tall enough for my weight.
Sweet baby Hay-sus, another fucking moron.
If this is what success looks like for you, I’d hate to see failure.
“Finding Nemo” skates blithely over the fact that that, in clownfish society, upon the death of the dominant female, the dominant male grows larger, changes sex and takes her place (with any secondary male assuming the place of the dominant male). By rights, Marlin and Dory’s journey should have been an epic lesbian love story, or at the very least a Thelma and Louise pastiche. I AM CONSTANTLY ANNOYED THAT THIS DID NOT HAPPEN.
“Yo, Ross, piss off.”
Why so butthurt?
“I’ve been at a club and have a woman walk up to me and ask what I’m drinking.”
And you took that as her hitting on you? You misogynist. Can’t a girl ask what someone is drinking without disgusting men assuming they want a piece of ass.
No wonder he’s impressed with Looksy’s trolling skills.
You know, as long as we’re discussing animal mating behaviors…
http://www.roxydrew.com/?p=155
Why are our trolls too stupid to figure out how to quote?
I took that as a woman approaching me. Not necessarily hitting on me but certainly interacting with me when not strictly required for her to do so.
@pillow Nope, Fibinachi nailed it. You roll a d20 attack against the ‘lucky lady’ standing there on the dance floor, add your bonus for Intelligence (giggle) or Wisdom (chortle) as applicable (must…stop…laughing…long enough…to finish…typing) and set the difficulty modifier as whatever the difference is between her attractiveness quotient and yours. Oh, and you need to roll an additional d6 for each girlfriend around her to determine how many hit points you’ll lose to female group giggling or the EWWWWW attack.
Then she gets to make a d20 saving throw. A natural 20 means she falls to her knees and blows you there on the dance floor, anything else is a fail due to the EVIL BITCHEZ!!!
See, if you deny the “principles” of LSM or PUA it’s because you don’t understand anything about how flirting, sexual attraction/chemistry, and dating work.
Their not mysterious idiots!
Signals such as Initiating conversation with you, maybe she meets you at a party and keeps making inviting eye contact and smiling, standing near you, positive inviting body language….things that show you that she’s attracted to you and open to conversation.
When a woman doesn’t want you, YOU’ll KNOW because she’ll seek to put up a wall between you and her.
Not making eye contact, not speaking to you, not noticing you exist at all. This should tell you that she DOESN’T WANT YOU.
PUA’s sell a myth that you should approach all women.
NO! You should know your League and only approach women that clearly want you to, if NO women signal an interest then You NEVER approach.
Works for everybody.
Women only get the men their attracted to, Nobody gets hurt from rejections because some doofus approaches a woman who has ZERO interest in him.
A question for those who believe members of PUAhate are incapable of attracting women they desire because of their ‘mental state’, ‘social problems’, ‘misogyny’ or ‘personality’.
How comes the most attractive members of PUAhate (Sugar, Macimate, Starcloud) all have pictures verifying they can get attractive women? While they least attractive members (Jsanza29) are mostly virgins?
Looks matter brah.
She was probably hitting on you. I’ve used the random-yet-venue-specfic apprach with men. It’s just a nice way to get a conversation going.
Yeah, in retrospect. At the time I was entirely oblivious and just thought she wanted to know what I was drinking.
Jeffiepoo, block quotes really aren’t that difficult. I’m sure you can manage it.
We recognize them, but what you can’t quite seem to recognize is that this is light. We like poking trolls, this is what we come here for. This is fun.
And he’s as welcome to comment as you are (since if you two aren’t the same person, you might as well be), but if you can’t take the poking, you can take your sock and go jerk off with it in your mommy’s basement. We won’t miss you. Another troll will come along to amuse us; you’re all pretty much interchangeable that way.
hellkell: These are quotes:” “. That’s how you quote correctly. Apparently the readers of this site depend more on having a stylesheet to distinguish the end of a quote rather than the correct closing quotation mark from the English language.
I suggest you read more books and newspapers, and less blog comments, and the correct form will become more natural to you.
Ross: how does it feel to fail so hard? I’ve always wondered.
Lookit, it tried to neg me.
I think it’s hilarious how upset everyone is getting because I won’t use their blockquote code to format quotes the way their illiterate minds are used to.
If you read more books than blog comments you’d all be used to the classical method, and it wouldn’t be so distressing for you.
Yeah, the only reason I never initiate relationships is because I have a history of assuming that my person of interest is not interested in me (I should probably re-evaluate that).
Once the relationship is initiated, though, we engage in mutual initiation and stuff.
Does Looksy have any dating knowledge outside of the most patriachal and heteronormative of narratives?
Did anyone even notice that your blockquote system does not have a closing quotation mark?
Come on now, be honest.
Gillian, LOL! That makes soOo much sense!
Also, hypergamy. When will evo cultists realize that men were every bit as hypergamous as women? In western (I’m not familiar enough with other cultures to comment and let’s face it, evo psych isn’t concerned with any other culture) culture, men married the wealthiest woman they could find. The woman with property and money as her dowry and likely a nice inheritance when her parents died. Since a monied family likely had good networking connections to money making opportunities, a husband stood to profit.
Canada and the US has a longstanding history of marriages made when newblood partnerships were forged with blueblood families. The newblood got the prestige and connections, the old blood got a much needed infusion of cash.
I think that even among the less monied classes, a womans dowery and her family connections were evaluated. Of course, among the truly poor (which was always a majority) lesser significance was placed on what was owned by either side and so it was possible to marry for love or compatability if you could find a partner at all.
Don’t stick your nose so far up in the air, Rossiepoo, a bird might shit down it.