The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
To be fair, CassandraSays, it might be because you’re in the wrong subgroup of horrible awful women. The incels seem to be all about the American beefcake, but the laydeez around these parts tend to go for gangly British types who travel through time and/or solve crimes.
And I tend to go for skinny, pretty Asian or Hispanic or occasionally Scandinavian men with striking eyes. I guess I’m messing up the theory again.
Fucksake Looks_Law, what the fuck do you want? A hand-written apology from every woman in the world? A government-mandated girlfriend?
Oh, that is what you want.
It’s almost like women are complicated individuals who act according to very different motivations. Who’d a thought.
Aww, someone dropped his binky.
and HellKat Im not saying its bad that women have negative traits. You cant be just to everyone. If I was in the position of sexual power women are in I’d seek to trade up too.
Its for their own benefit that they choose a good looking guy who is also rich over an average dude.
who would pass up a sexually attractive partner who can also provide status and security?
Its nature, its biology. This is how the cards are stacked, this is how it is. I personally am not bitter. I am simply against women treating men like crap.
No problem with a non-good looking girl wanting to date good looking guys( I know why she does it) but the problem arises when you are treated like a sub-human, because you dont fit a womans perfect profile!
Falconer: right? It’s way past somebody’s nap time.
I think anyone who’s currently dating a conventionally attractive man is supposed to break up with him too. Sorry, hot guys, I guess you’ll just have to deal with being dumped. What’s that you say? You have kids/you love your partner and will be sad without her/you don’t see why you should get dumped just because some other dude is having a hard time picking up women in clubs? Too bad – the Movement needs you to be willing to make some sacrifices.
Looks_law; It’s hellkell, and your line of shit has zero to do with biology. You can tell yourself that if it makes you feel better, but it’s still crap.
You are so bitter, it’s coming off the screen like cartoon stink lines.
I personally am not bitter.
I lol’d again.
(Do the rest of you want me to stop poking him? I’m finding his tantrums amusing, but I’ll stop if it’s bugging everyone else.)
Apparently you’re the one they all choose to focus on. I know this because it happened that one time, and that’s SCIENCE and you can’t argue with that!
(Seriously, it does seem like all the rage-o-holics fixate on you, and I’m sorry about that.)
Lol… Puahate simply vocalizes what everyone, deep down inside, knows is true about sex and attraction. Even the feminists and manginas know it..
Even futrelle knows that “shallow, self absorbed assholes” who are good looking have no problem with girls, while one look of his face betrays that he’s a complete failure no matter how nice he is
Oh and Falconer you’re a pasty ginger fuck who was crying about being a pasty ginger on other forums. Now you bring up billionaire rockstars as proof “looks don’t matter”. Better start working on those demo tapes bro 😀
we can even move on from Looks. The denial that women are inherently interested in attaining status is shocking too.
With all the evidence for this you deny it?!!!
womens obsession with royalty?
With being seen at trendy places, being amongst the right crowd? getting into the right car, the sugar-daddy culture? The mass amount of women in my own country specifically seeking out RICH MEN or popular men?
Women are hypergamous in every sense. they are fascinated by the high life, want it with everything in their sole.
A woman is always looking to trade up, whether in Looks, Money or Status
Look, you delusional fuckwit, no one here is saying/has said/belives that women are “perfect” and always right. No one. That’s your shit.
What I was doing with the nightclub hypothetical was offering an alternative and equally feasible reason why a woman might turn down one guy only to be with another. I’m trying, delicately because I don’t want to break your brain, to get you to understand that the world does not revolve around you. You may be rejected because you aren’t good looking but you may be rejected because the person you’re approaching is already interested in someone else.
I reject people quite a bit and many of them are perfectly attractive. I’m in love and I don’t want to be with anyone else. So other people, mostly men, who approach me end up rejected.
I think Looks needs to meet some women outside of Duran Duran videos.
Looks_law; It’s hellkell, and your line of shit has zero to do with biology.
^^^
Looks theory is not biology?
do you read anything other than books on 60’s feminism?
Do you know nothing about natural selection and how mating in the animal kingdom works?
Do you not read up on Physiognomy? a science explored by everyone from socrates to Darwin?
I bet you believe in christ too?
… I think I’ve just had it demonstrated to me that sexuality is a spectrum.
Woof
I like a good pair of shoes, but let’s not get carried away.
Cassandra: poke him till the bannhammer drops on his pointy little head.
He needs to cut his caffeine intake too, he seems a bit excitable.
It’s an incredibly slow work day for me, so I’m all for it.
What else are we supposed to do? It’s not like we’re going over to puahate and posting in their echo chamber. He came here and if he wants the attention, I’m perfectly happy to oblige. At least until I have to go my meetings.
I’m not sure that my soles want anything other than a good cobbler.
Huh, Well, y’all get the point.
I’m not sure that my soles want anything other than a good cobbler.
Apple’s not bad, but I prefer cherry.