The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
Try this.
Sorry!
In a nightclub environment when a man gets rejected by a woman and later in the night said woman is found snogging a tall masculine bull by the bathrooms, What part of his negative personality got him rejected?
In noisy areas like nightclubs men are rejected on sight. nightclubs are an example of a place where only Looks matter.
It boggles my mind that there are people who dont believe that whether someone finds you sexually attractive or not depends on how physically attractive you are.
Sex is a physical act?!!! What thing other than the physical matters in selecting a person to fucking mate with?
So, I’ve spent a little (read, way too much time) reading through a random sampling of the threads on puahate. A few thoughts:
1) It’s weird to see people talking so much about cheekbones. They talk about cheekbones a lot.
2) Most of the people posting seem young. Really young. I’m talking teenagers. It’s odd to think that a 19 year old has decided that they’re “incel”. You aren’t “incel,” you just haven’t had sex yet.
3) Soaking in a vituperative stew of delusion and self-hate will not make you more socially appealing to anyone.
4) Humans would cease to exist if the only people who could pair up were the exceptionally beautiful.
5) To the dudes who wrote about wanting to learn how to wipe their asses better as part of their new years’ resolutions (no, I’m serious) I have two suggestions: more fiber in your diets, and baby wipes. Hygiene is important.
See, this right here? This is painfully, painfully stupid. It’s sad and funny and delusional and almost makes me want to offer the writer some a snack and a nap.
Public service announcement! Please do not snog bulls when in a club. Most clubs frown on bestiality, and you may get arrested.
…What?
In order to understand puahate, you have to have an understanding of science.
I lol’d.
I love the way that both Abnoy and Looks_Law’s first posts can basically be summarised as: “No no no, you don’t understand. All we’re saying is that we hate women.”
The part where he decided to cold approach a woman in a night club without knowing anything about her including whether or not she already had a boyfriend who may, in fact, be the “…tall masculine bull…” she’s snogging by the bathrooms.
I notice that we’re not considering the fact that the “bull” might have been charming, funny, interesting, etc.
(Seriously, bull? The only way I can make sense of that is that he’s thinking of a player for a sports franchise with “bulls” in the name.)
According to this site David Futrelle could get more women than a Tall facially attractive male with low bodyfat because David Futrelle has a better personality?
I mean come off it.
What world are you people living in where Looks dont matter? We are bombarded with aesthetics everywhere!
The cosmetic industry is a multi-billion dollar industry
Damn near every hollywood male movie lead is ridiculously attractive. All these men possess the exact same facial proportions and indicators of attractiveness.
Christian Bale, Michael Fassbender, Clooney, Pitt, DiCaprio, Channing Tatum, Jason Statham, Henry Cavill, Chris Hemsworth, Depp, Ian somerhalder, Patterson…..and many many more. All male model looking.
All chosen to fill a market need. All chosen because people want to see good looking people on their screens, because society cares about LOOKS.
Aw, he left all of my favorites off the list of hot actors. I guess this means that preferences aren’t universal and determined by science after all?
(Also I have no idea who “Patterson” is. Anyone want to clue me in?)
The part where he decided to cold approach a woman in a night club without knowing anything about her including whether or not she already had a boyfriend who may, in fact, be the “…tall masculine bull…” she’s snogging by the bathrooms.
^^^
Oh yeah because women NEVER EVER EVER go to nightclubs and snog guys who arent their boyfriends right?
Just another example of this sites portrayal of women as perfect beings that are always right.
Looks_law is Virgil, I’m sure. Fuck off loser.
Abnoy, what’s half of “you must be fucking joking” again? You wankstains always talk about this like the average man is rich and that alimony is still really a thing today.
Looks_law/Virge, you’ve been told you’re not wanted here. You should be used to this. Stop whining and GO AWAY.
Give me a break. Oh Hi puahaters. Its you who cause all of this. If you just had a nicer personality, you could have plenty pf friends and a girlfriend. everyone out there is really nice, you’re just an asshole.
I wont tell you where you got your douchbag traits from because im a moron who is illogical but you’re ill fate is definitely because you are an asshole and everyone you’ve ever met and everyone on the planet is an angel that does no wrong( especially women)
Looks_law: dance monkey, dance!
what an idiot. At no point do you refute anything and use your head for once. All you do is shame me and throw insults.
Yeah keep believing women are perfect and vilifying men and puahaters.
How could you make a list of hot actors and forget this guy?
http://i2.listal.com/image/484502/936full-gael-garcia-bernal.jpg
Could it be because he’s kind of short and that fucks with the theory?
Seriously, I have learned more about hot male actors and models from ‘incel’ trolls in the past four or five days than I have in about a year of coming to this site, which is populated mostly by the women who are supposedly obsessed with them.
@Cassandra: I think Patterson is the male lead in the Twilight movies.
And, uh… I agree that people who are conventionally attractive, everything else being equal, have a much easier time getting dates and getting sex than people who are conventionally ugly. I don’t think anyone here denies that. It doesn’t follow though that it’s super-easy for EVERYONE who looks like a model, and above all it doesn’t follow that it’s IMPOSSIBLE for people who don’t look like models to hook up or find love.
And yeah, there are lots of assholes in the world, of both genders. I don’t think anyone here denies that either. But it doesn’t follow that EVERYONE is an asshole, or that the best explanation for “my life sucks” is “everyone but me is an asshole”.
Looks_law: I’m not sure what planet you’re beaming in from, but no one here has ever said women are perfect. I know, it’s tough when you’re drunk posting and the straw women around you act up. Hope you don’t smoke, they’re flammable.
We’re not vilifying men for the umpteenth time. However, we are vilifying misogynistic sock puppets with piss-poor boundaries and rage issues.
@ kiki
Sorry, didn’t mean to let the side down. Apparently I am the woman who PUAhaters believe is destroying the world.
Looks dont matter at all.
Every single thing around us is governed by Looks and an obsession with aesthetics but no guys Looks dont matter.
Girls dont go to clubs to find “hot guys” cmon puahaters, oviously they go to find nice guys who make good convo.
Girls are angels, they’ll give you a chance no matter who you are as long as you’re a nicer person to be around.
Girls have the right to make unprovoked jokes towards you.
Oh what that girl said EEWWW as she walked by you and gigled with her friends, You deserved it, you entitled batstard!!
Oh what? you greeted a girl enthusiastically and she gave you a lukewarm response and gave that other tall guy extreme excitement!!! Its your fault you idiot, clearly you were being a self-hating asshole!!!
Oh cmon? One girl, rejected your offer for a date and went out with the Tall jock from the Rich family? Cmon dude women arent shallow and status obsessed, its you!!! She could smell the self-hate from wthin you!!!
Do I get the impression that these oh-so-unattractive-woe-is-me men have no women friends at all? Surely the best way to find out about what potential women partners might or might not find appealing about you is to ask a non-sexual-interest woman who knows you reasonably well for guidance, or even advice.
Who knows? Perhaps they might tell you that you should re-check your manners, your jokes, your hygiene/ grooming/ dress sense in the company of some women who are known to be particular about certain things. They might also tell you that it doesn’t matter how handsome or otherwise physically attractive you are if you lack a sense of humour or your taste in music won’t get you any merit points with some women you are interested in or that you should sometimes be prepared to stop talking about your own favourite topics and find out what your potential woman friend’s interests are.
Without well-intentioned friends to inform or guide you, how do you develop the skills you need to initiate or maintain an intimate or sexual relationship?
But seriously, he’s a babe, right? We can agree that this person is conventionally attractive and popular with women?
http://images.ados.fr/divers/photo/4975275497/beaux-mecs-3/gael-garcia-bernal-83865753b.jpg
He’s 5ft6. If I was in the market for a guy I would definitely not kick his petite ass out of bed.