The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
“Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.”
What is this guy trying, exactly? To change the world through the power of bitterness?
Those are some fuuuuuuuuuucked up racial dynamics too. I was gonna say that “we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc” was kinda weird, and then I saw the rest of the quote.
Yeah, the racism really stuck out at me too. Asian girls don’t want to date you? I wonder why.
Yeah, at this point, the self-loathing inherent in much of the PUA movement has progressed to ouroboros levels, consuming their minds with their own hate. It’s… disturbing to even look at.
Huh…my husband is 5’6″, and the guy I was dating before him was actually 6’4″. Apparently I made the wrong choice there. Woe is me! I will never get another chance at a tall male model as I am rapidly approaching my twilight years (30).
Wait, you guys mean that Asian women don’t see white men as gods? /sarcasm
If there was a gene for “noxious, whining arsehole who hates the world and will do anything to deny it’s entirely his problem” then yeah, they’d have it. But since there isn’t …
Tough shit, fella.
Wow. Homophobia, misogyny, and puling schoolboy bitterness FTL. Therapy, indeed. No amount of plastic surgery can fix their mental defects.
Every time y’all suggest therapy a psychiatrist loses their wings… no one should have to put up with so much toxic bullshit. :p
I’m trying to picture my psych floating around on wings and failing …
It feels like I can reach out and touch the impotent rage.
Bagelsan — idk, mine might (dumping psych in T-2)
Seriously though, there’s no way that kind of hatred (of everyone but really yourself) is fucking healthy. Mind, if they have insurance like mine, apparently such things as talk therapy and CBT aren’t covered, gotta have charitable goals to justify the expenditure!
What strange theories they create to explain why the hot girls which they’re convinced that the world owes them aren’t dating them.
If it weren’t for the “what might one of these losers do eventually” element, I’d be all point and laugh. These guys really are the logical result of all the PUA and MRA hate.
Wait, so they hate the average guys who date hot girls, but also hate the average guys who date “ugly” girls. That… actually is not surprising in the least.
I don’t think the picture really works – if the person in it was female it would be a perfect visual parody of the MRA view of women, as the pictured individual is quite clearly drowning in cock.
quantumscale: Cognitive dissonance 101, yeah. They hate anything that undermines their view that looks are the only thing that will ever matter. Just as an average guy dating ‘up’ the scale means that there might be a reason attractive women aren’t into the PUAhaters that has nothing to do with the genetic lottery, so too does the average guy dating ‘down’ undermine their insistence that the only thing that matters in a woman is her appearance and rank on their 1-10 scale. (And, again, if they actually considered the full import of that, it might undermine their ability to deny personal failings outside of appearance play a role in ‘attractiveness’.)
As far as I can tell this is basically:
“Women I want to fuck don’t want to fuck me! Even women I don’t want to fuck because they’re ugly don’t want to fuck me! I’m a hideous monster! All those bitches are shallow, especially the ugly ones, because they don’t want to fuck me because I crack mirrors! I’m GHASTLY, JUST GHASTLY! Why wont the shallow landwhales want to have sex with me?!”
Seriously…
@quantumscale
But, of course, these “losers of the genetic lottery” think themselves ugly, but wouldn’t date an ugly woman. If you consider yourself ugly and then go and actually set up a system where hot gets hot and average gets average, you really shouldn’t be complaining about the looks of the women left for you, imo.
Well, will you look at that.
The whole, “females only date male models” thing always made me think these guys were some sort of shut-ins. Turns out they are actually, actively out in the world and observing the fact that men who are not models do in fact pair up with women.
Interesting.
@ Nobinayamu
Didn’t you get the memo from the World Feminist Hivemind? We’re to pair up with male turncoats who aren’t models to taunt the “real men”…. at least until the male model rota gets around to each of us.
What complete babies, it’s embarrassing.
Also I’m what would arguably be called incel, though it’s mainly because I don’t like using the nasty grody showers in the dorms which wouldn’t really make much of a difference anyway. 😛
(Having totally missed this in a previous thread) the problem with the male model rota is it is the SAME ten male models for everyone, and their schedule is busier than Santa’s? I hope they get a decent holiday entitlement.
On a different note, I have no idea why this poor guy who hates everyone is now not being spoken to by his ex-next-door neighbour (who he apparently hates too). NONE. It is a MYSTERY.
So they can’t get the hot girls and they won’t date the ugly ones. Are these dudes going their own way yet or are they just making pouty faces at each other? I’d go to the site and look but I have a weak stomach.