Here’s a suprisingly candid comment from an MRA in the Men’s Rights subreddit, challenging the misogyny within the movement:
Oh, wait, that’s not from the Men’s Rights subreddit. HalfysReddit did originally post this to the Men’s Rights subreddit, but the mods deleted it, and so now the only reason it’s still available is that there’s a bot that automatically reposts all self-posts to the Men’s Rights subreddit.
Before it was deleted, HalfysReddit’s post did inspire some discussion amongst the Men’s Rightsers. Well, it was “discussion” only insofar as a bunch of comments telling HalfysReddit to stuff it counts as discussion. Here’s one thoughtful comment:
Sorry, did I say “thoughtful?” I meant “delusional.”
Though I’m pretty sure he’s right that feminists aren’t going to fight for anonymity for rape defendents or the “right of paternal surrender.”
Oh, and here’s a guy comparing Men’s Rightsers to the Black Panthers.
The Men’s Rights subreddit, where the notion that MRAs should tone down the misogyny a bit is too radical to even debate.
Some Gal — yeah I sorta know what you mean about the love-hate relationship with depression, on one hand, hi, depressed. On the other, well, I’m sick of my psych’s bull, and don’t have the patience to give a shit, so yeah, there’s a perk!
I consider hypomania to be all round good (and am still pissed that lamictal killed that while barely touching the depression, after I specifically asked if it would and got told probably not…still depressed? Up the dose, still depressed? You just have to socialize!) — I flat out enjoy not needing any real sleep for days and the Must. Do. Art. Now. thing.
I’m getting way off topic though! (Also, lentil soup over iPad is a bad idea!)
SomeGal, I think you’re probably right that it has been part of the process shaping language and the way people view themselves.
I’ve honestly no clue though, I haven’t read any analysis or sociology on the subject.
It’s something I’ve noticed more though, that this terminology is used by most BME Brits, from my friends who are completely integrated and with next to no identification with their parents background to people who have very strong connections with their country of origin and for whom it forms a large part of their identity.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH killed ded by the blockquote monster
::hides in corner of shame::
@historophilia
I only guessed because I took a lit class that focused on post-colonial British identity and issues of (im)migration were a big part of that. Hooray real-world application of an English major!
Now to find a second one. /kidding
*tries to lure Kittehs’ out of corner of shame with leftover welcome basket goodies*
Meow?
::sniff sniff::
Purr?
Regarding hypomania: To me it’s mixed. It’s good that I become very productive. It’s worse that I feel like the most intelligent person on the planet. It’s a nice enough feeling, but it’s no good for doing philosophy. Several times I’ve presented a text on a seminar and then felt like everyone critiquing me was a COMPLETE IDIOT for not realizing that I was RIGHT about EVERYTHING and they just weren’t clever enough to SEE how right I was! Eventually I’ve learnt not to trust that “I’m the smartest person ever” feeling. But that means it’s still kind of mixed… all the energy makes writing philosophy articles easier – the fact that you constantly have to use logic and rationality in a very conscious, deliberate manner to double check everything you wrote for errors makes it more difficult.
Also, I almost always get a bit of schizo symptoms together with hypomania, and they also make it more difficult to write or do ANYTHING. They vary a lot, but often include such things as
– seeing creepy ghosts in the corner of your eye, but every time you turn your head they’re gone again. Creepy, period.
– having a very distinct feeling of alien machinery being placed inside your brain and producing alien thoughts that sort of compete with your own thoughts for attention. A bit mixed, since once in a blue moon the alien machinery produce an actual clever and original idea that I can use, but mostly it’s just disturbing. So, mostly bad. At the final stages of writing my dissertation I had this problem big time and had to take a shit load of dopamine blockers every day in order to subdue it.
– people I speak to suddenly turn into humanoid robots, you know, like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD1CdjlrTBM Creepy, period.
– Really strong feeling of someone standing behind me, occasionally poking the back of my head. Also creepy, period.
– all of reality cracking at the seems. Don’t get that much nowadays, but had it a lot when I was younger. Also creepy.
– auditory hallucinations, ranging from scary to just pointless and annoying.
– my mirror image having been replaced. Super creepy.
Um, actually, come to think of it, “alien machinery” is the only schizo symptom I have with a slight upside. Although I should still be grateful that all my schizo symptoms are of the positive kind; most down-right schizophrenic people I’ve talked to say the negative schizo symptoms are far worse, so good thing I’ve never had those then.
Writing this list I realize it must seem really fucking weird that I still say that it’s part of who I am… But it’s just that I have no idea what I’d be like if I were “normal”, I’d be so terribly different that I probably wouldn’t be me at all. And it’s also possible that these problems have had very indirect advantages. I’m actually in many ways a very non-neurotic person for instance, which MIGHT be because I’ve never really had time to worry about such things as normal people worry about, what with all the ghosts and robots and stuff.
@Argenti Aertheri, A health professional that is setting your teeth on edge is not helping. I have not additional advice because the manbooberz before me have already done so. well Good luck with this.
gabapentin – I had a clinical psych tell me the grapefruit issue was in the rind and therefore a juice problem because of the commercial method of juice extraction. I have not verified this. I avoided grapefruit when I was on gabapentin because it was just easier than worrying about it.
The random punctuation gremlin strikes again…
Grapefruit & drugs:
joanimal — my mother drives me (I don’t drive) and has been waiting because apparently the waiting area has good magazines, so I already informed her I may resort to calling in reinforcements. She isn’t thrilled, but will probably deal with it. T-3.5!
Dvärghundspossen — yeah I can see the smarter than everyone pretension being a problem with things that don’t have pretentious jerk built in. Artists are pretentious jerks who assume everyone else is a nitwit, yeah, that’s a stereotype, not really a problem! Philosophy…not so much (well, unless you’re Dawkins)
As for the schizo part (if you don’t mind me using that term, not sure what to say so I’m going with what you used, do correct me!) — I can understand why it still seems a part of you, even if purely negative. I’d be hard pressed to find someone good about my astigmatism, and it’s a shitty comparison but it’s all I’ve got, nonetheless, when asked about my glasses my answer is always just “I’m astigmatic”. Strangely enough though, “I have scoliosis” can’t explain that difference! (The later is actively painful? Idk)
kitteh — I was thinking more like “taking notes”, as in emailing or similar. But the whipping out “la la la la I can’t hear you” is quite amusing!
This thread seems to have wandered afield a bit, so it seems as good a place as any to mention that I’m one my way to my second day of MY FUCKING DREAM JOB and unless any of YOU work in an animal emergency room, you can all be jealous now 😉
*is jealous of emilygoddess*
Although I don’t know if I could handle not being able to help the ones beyond the reach of human endeavor.
emilygoddess, WOOT!
emilygoddess — congrats!
congrats, emily! save those animals!
Hell, you’ve read this site’s commenters; we’re fucking hilarious. 😀
Yay emilygoddess! *sends you a basket of puppies with runny noses*
Argenti, it’s cool to use “schizo”, I think it’s neutral since it’s merely short for “schizophrenic” which is a medical term.
And congrats Emily!
Dvärghundspossen — maybe it’s just the US, but other than here I’ve always heard it used as a slur basically — “what are you, schizo or something?”. But crazy’s used the same way and I use it for myself (and Some Gal, since she’s said she uses it too), so idk, maybe my wariness of it is a combination of culture and “at least I’m not that nuts”, which I really should get over, seeing how degrees of crazy is rather ableist. Sorry for that, I shall work on it!
In random things, is the plural of TARDIS tardises or tardī?
@emilygoddess
Hooray! Congratulations!
emilygoddess, congrats! That’s great news, and well done, you!
@Argenti
I think that schizo (like crazy) depends a bit on who is using it, why they are and who they are talking about, Calling me schizo because I’m bipolar would be really wrong,
Argenti, well, people over here use it a lot to mean that you’re conflicted or contradicting yourself or something like that. It’s because most people think schizophrenia means multiple personality disorder. It’s not really a general slur as “crazy” is, although it’s used as critique. I think that to some extent you gotta be prepared to use words to describe yourself even if other people use them as slurs, since otherwise we’re gonna run out of words eventually.
Speaking of terms which may/may not be out of line, does anyone still use demented? I tend to say the kitties are having a dement when they’re bouncing off the walls.