Over on Comics Should Be Good, glimpses of a terrifying misandrist future — and the man who set out to make things right again!
He does look cute in his little cleaning outfit, I have to admit.
Check the whole thing out. It’s pretty hilarious.
EDIT: I changed the link from Buzzfeed to Comics Should Be Good, which originally dug up the comic and shows more from it.
Marie: no one here likes Diogenes and can figure out why keeps coming back like herpes, unless his kink is being roundly mocked and disliked by strangers on the internet.
Though of course, as Fade says, if you refuse to define it you can’t go around whining about people using their agreed-upon meaning for a term instead of the one in your head.
@kittehs
yeah 😛 I was afraid I’d get redundant with facepalms though XD maybe I’ll use another gif/jpg when he comments.
It was even worse than that. If he’d said he couldn’t, that’d be one thing, but he made the typical Diogenes sweeping generalisation that it is impossible to do oral on a woman with hair. Not even generalising his own preference, but talking as if it’s something physically impossible for anyone.
@Marie, exactly. Sorry if I rambled and didn’t communicate that. At no point does anyone get to demand anything like that. Whoever said the comment that someone else’s preference about my body do not get to trump my right to bodily autonomy was spot on.
Did someone say moving goalposts?
I’ve been away cleaning and cooking a metric ton of kale, which somehow cooks down enough to fit into a small tupperware. Some kind of miracle, that.
@The Kittehs’ I remember. I have mentioned it to him twice on this thread, although for some reason he has yet to address it. He seems determined to pretend that didn’t happen, or that he meant it as a personal statement of preference, so I figured I could meet him halfway on that if it meant he might focus on my actual point instead.
@big momma
no, you communicated fine, I’m just like super rambly today XD So I ended up…rambling about it.
And for the record, I would feel as if my sex partner was telling me my body revolted him if they wanted me to shave. I would also start feeling as if they preferred a child-like look, which is disturbing.
I’m not a fan of pubes in my mouth but hey, you just pick them out. It takes a second. On the other hand, asking my sex partner to shave requires planning and maintenance on their part simply to avoid a nano-second of discomfort for me. And usually, at that point in proceedings, I’m usually just getting a massive kick out giving my partner a good time. And not overly concerned about pubic hair.
Marie – it’s academic for me, too, because apart from Mr K I’m effectively asexual, so no other person’s preferences are going to matter to me. But to me it says the guy’s either too caught up in pornography and taking it as a baseline, which sets off alarm bells, or (and plenty of people will disagree completely) it says something about infantilising women and having a creepily pedo slant to it. Either way I look on it with extreme suspicion.
There’s also the historical tendency to depict women with no body hair, and the broader cross-cultural notions of our body hair being unfeminine, dirty or even sinful, that makes me give the whole depilation business the side-eye. (NB this is not about shaming anyone who makes that decision herself: we are not doing a Feministe here! It’s entirely about men putting that expectation on women, for me.)
yes, that’s what I don’t like about it! I couldn’t phrase why though. But it seems to go w/ how lots of beauty standards are to make them look young, and there it’s even more young >:( I mean, possibly tmi time, but I think I started getting pubic hair when I was 9, so it is suspicious. :/ Though I’m sure there are some people out there who prefer it for different reasons, but that seems like a big one…idk I’m still rambly.
same here. I should have clarified that too.
“@The Kittehs’ I remember. I have mentioned it to him twice on this thread, although for some reason he has yet to address it. ”
I am shocked, shocked I say!
I was once being chatted up by a guy at a party, pretty low key not a full on pickup, and kind of out of nowhere he said, “If we were to start dating, I’d expect you to shave. Completely. No hair below the neck.” And I said, “I don’t think we should date.”
It was a little weird, but in hindsight I appreciated that he didn’t spring this on me after we’d been living together for a year or something.
gah I’m so incoherent today. I mean, I agree, I don’t have a problem with women shaving (heck I tried it once but it was so itchy). Just the expectation being imposed, especially by men, since they aren’t expected to. (I’d be annoyed if another woman told me to shave, but not as much so.)
@kittehs
and I agree it does seem very infintalizing to me.
@Kitteh and Marie, yup it’s about societal expectations around women’s hairlessness. If you wanna shave, go right ahead. It’s your body. Just don’t tell me I should shave, it’s my body.
You’re not being incoherent at all, Marie!
…*eyetwitch* gaaaaah. I mean yay that he’s upfront about his preferences, but wtf. He better do the same, the @hole. I mean…maybe that just pushed one of my buttons but grrrrrr. Does that include arms? tummy? Lots of these things are terribly hair on a good number of women (and tmi time but sometimes I find it sexy when they are hairish) but….bloo. I donot like that guy.
@cloudiah, I’m not sure whether to laugh or not.
Yes, thankfully he told you that but, wow, what an imposition during a low-key flirt!
exactly. QFT! 😀
@kittehs
yay that I am understandable today! I have to get up early though so I should go to bed but I’m so not tired. 😛
@emily
Thats a fair answer.
But, has it occurred to you that cunnilingus is kind of a bonus to the whole sex thing? Penis-into-vagina is the majority of sex acts, and everything else is an add-on. When I have an SO, I am committed to her happiness. So, if she wants me to give it to her, I think its perfectly reasonable to expect her to make it as pleasant for me as possible. Hair makes it less pleasant.
The exact same logic goes for blowjobs. They’re awesome to get, but more or less a favor your partner gives you. Its reasonable to expect a guy to shorten his pubic hair, and use a scentless soap to make it as pleasant as possible for his girlfriend to give them to him.
And everyones natural body is icky. Thats why we shower, shampoo, take hair out of every inch and corner of our bodies to make ourselves look better. You as a woman are not the only one getting it. I get it too. But I don’t resent spending time in front of the mirror fixing my beard, eyebrows, what-have-you. There is a whole industry whose sole purpose is to convince us that we’re disgusting troglodytes who should be ashamed to go out in public unless we use their products. Yes, you get more of that than I do, but it doesn’t mean I don’t get any of it. And I sure as hell am not upset about it.
My purpose being here is not to win friends, its to influence people.
cloudiah: How hilariously blunt of him. I mean, I guess it’s good that he’s flying his preference flag proudly, but presume much, dude?
Things That Are More Interesting Than Diogenes the Witless, Part 23,879:
I made burgers tonight with Peri Peri seasoning and sharp cheddar. 8/10, will cook again, but will make a mango chutney or something like it to counter the heat.
@Diogenes: Then leave, because no one is influenced by your annoyingness.
What’s Peri Peri seasoning?
/cooking stupid, but I might want to try it because me and my mom are in a trying out new recipies spree
funny how penis and vagina is the one that (normally) does more for the penis person. Also, you’re sex life sounds boring, and I’m a virgin.
um……actually I shower so I’m not dirty but whatever you do it for. Also, I shower to *clean* the hair, in areas with less/no hair (I shave my legs, ex) I still wash them BECAUSE THEY STILL GET DIRTY! ffs, dirt does not work that way :/ All my showering is either done to make me less dirty, or to wash the hair dye out 😛