I haven’t been paying much attention to the recent brouhaha over Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg’s new book. But I feel safe in saying that MRA lackwit Christian J.’s “Sheryl Sandberg, Your Usual “Modern” Crass, Arrogant, Sexist, Biased Female” may be the dumbest thing anyone has written, or ever will write, on the subject.
Mr J’s post on WMASAW – the blog that used to be called What Men Are Saying About Women – starts off with a puzzling description of Sandberg as an “arrogant Lindsay Lohan Look-a-like, [who] Promotes sexism, bias and hate.” (Um, what?) And it only gets worse from there:
It is amazing what these sexist and abusive, addled females get away with while they continually praise themselves and raise themselves as being the “Saviours” of the world with the “If Only Women ran the World” meme. Take Sandberg for example, the bastion of that left-wing mentality … .
Yes, that’s right. Mr. J is describing Sandberg as a “bastion” of left-wing thought. Mr. J and the English language are not good friends.
They make the claim that “Equality” is about the aim of making women level with men, erm! level suggests what? In every area possible, even if it means reducing standards and tests and lowering anything that women have problems with. …
Every time they make the same claim that (Lindsay Lohan Look-a-Like)Sandberg bloviates about here, like every other member of that same HATE movement, it was never about anything else but giving women a FREE ride to the top and don’t anyone every dare hold them back because there would be screaming and wailing and it would be introduce another excuse to cry that usual lie of “holding them back”, amazing.
In reality, it’s because job placement used to be based on merit and ability, even though that has been tossed out and replaced with quotas in favour of women. It has everything to do with sexism, v*gina and pro-female “Equal Opportunity” as Sandberg denies is the case. ….
What a sexist loathsome, despicable female.
Mr J. then quotes a couple of not-exactly earthshatteringly controversial comments of Sandberg’s:
“I think a world that was run where half our countries and half our companies were run by women, would be a better world.”
“I hope that . . . you have the ambition to run the world,” Sandberg told Barnard graduates, “because this world needs you to run it.”
As Mr. J figures it, Sandberg is promulgating female supremacy here, “saying that every females alive could out perform any male. Sickening, petty, self-congratulatory, back-slapping and wishful thinking or what !”
I choose “what.” (They speak English in What?)
Mr J, for his part, seems to believe that, in an inversion of the the man-hatred he attributes to feminists, every male alive could outperform any female:
As far as I can see so far, those countries that have women in charge, are not doing that crash hot at all. …
Yet this odious and tedious Sandberg has the temerity to state that the world would be a better place run by women. What a complete, compulsive liar that women really is, women these days have problems being genuine and real, let alone anything else. But it does demonstrate that standard egotistical side of these “New Women”, who have been granted the easy option and helped along the way, every way possible by compliant men. Do they get any thanks for it, forget that. They just get the knife in the back for their efforts and gloat, even after changing conditions, being sued, forced to comply to changes that women demand and then turn around and state “Look at me, I am so good” .
Was that last sentence even a sentence? If so, please diagram it for me. I dare ya!
What hypocrites they are. It is about time men stopped capitulating to these arrogant and narcissistic females, stopped giving them automatic promotions, a free ride and start giving them some competition and let’s see how well they go then.
It’s always funny when blithering idiots suggest that women’s brains are inferior to their own.
@Gillian-
“But I’m not a feminist!” kind of makes me eyeroll, but I also see where it comes from. I’m in a pretty male-dominated field, and a lot of men are pretty dismissive of women. I think there’s a combination of Stockholm syndrome and a need to fit in working there. When you’re in a position of seeing men as the competent people in your field, I think it’s not surprising to see women viewing men as competent and women as not. Combine that with needing to fit in with men who don’t particularly like women, and you’ve got the recipe for some special snowflake. It’s a weird dynamic that I see a lot of younger women in my field going through.
Our culture is sick in a lot of ways. Ignoring the underlying sickness won’t help men and women to thrive, but I think that if we address the underlying issues (a zero-sum mentality, the bootstraps myth, rampant individualism, and there’s other stuff too) it will lead to policies that are more intentional about seeking out a diversity of candidates for the halls of power, and creating life work balances that are indeed balanced.
@M Dubz
I think the bootstrap myth is part of what makes it possible for women who’ve made it to give the advice they give and for it to be so widely accepted, imo.
Well, this was like two pages ago, but screw it:
The interview totally had me yelling at the screen. My girlfriend came in to find out what I was yelling about and may have mocked me for it. Part of what made it so bad was they had several other semi-powerful women towing the patriarchal line. Bobbi Brown, the cosmetics lady: “I’ve never seen a glass ceiling.”
NO SHIT, THAT’S WHY THEY CALL IT GLASS!
This thread needs more cute.
Cat’s opinion of humans in the workplace:
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Cat working:
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Dog’s opinion of humans in the workplace:
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Job of a dog owner:
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@neuroticbeagle
The first one is my favorite (the boyfriend loved the third, but he’s a dog person).
I think I should defend my cat’s work ethic though. She cries for food every time it looks like we might be going near her food. She tries to get us to follow her to the kitchen if we are walking anywhere. She finds increasingly annoying things to get in to if it’s been too long since we’ve fed her. She works for her food and totally deserves her nap.
@Some Gal
Clearly you do not feed her enough if she actually has to work for it. 😉
@neuroticbeagle
She’ll be thrilled she has a supporter. 🙂
neuroticbeagle, those are adorbs!
I just had two pairs of eyes STARING at me when I came into the lounge. I have no idea why. Mum said they were trying to make me examine my conscience so I’d find something amiss (ie. something not done for kitties).
@Some Gal
My beagle (the furry garbage disposal) took over my computer for a minute. She supports all furry creatures- she loves other dogs and cats- getting their way 100% of the time especially when it comes to food.
@kittehs’
They are just practicing their mind controlling techniques. Those are skills one cannot let atrophy.
@neurotic beagle – you’re right, and those two
evil little monstersbenevolent nature spirits are notletting any control gofailing in their kind oversight at all.@Kittehs’
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Aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
It’s not the zombie apocalypse, it’s the kitty mind control! Catnet …
Zombie Kitties! We are dooooooooomed!
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Then again, better zombie kitties control the world than MRAs.
No question!
I wish the we could just give women everything they ask for already just so feminists would shut up .
Give women all presidential posts. All positions of power in private and public firms go to women.
All positions of power in Education institutions go to women.
Total authoritarian rule by women.
A world where an older male who expresses a desire for young women is a creep and an older women dating young guys is a cougar.
A place where Fat acceptance goes mainstream and obese women are said to represent reality.
Whereas overweight men are publicly mocked and ostracised.
Give it all to them.
Watch the world go to shit.
Virgil, stop shitting on all the threads. It’s clearly past your bedtime.
Also, drunk commenting is only encouraged if you’re like Argenti and can be funny while doing it.
No rebuttals.
Anyone who disagrees with you is either stupid, a troll even if they bring up observable facts.
+ there’s no irony in that last statement as the stuffs I’m saying is actual truth.
I say women are materialistic, entitled and demanding which is a pure FACT and I’m called a virgin loser who is shitting in all the threads.
Posters here are delusional feminists, enjoy getting plowed by your 10th male model this WEEK.
the owner of this shithole is a neckbeard. Fucking loser fighting for womens rights, hope this site is atleast getting you laid you fucking [homophobic slur].
Ugh, women are not a monolith, we are individuals and people too. What works for some may not work for others. I am so sick of hearing that women should be more assertive. I’m sick of anyone being told they should be more assertive. If its not your character and you’re not comfortable with it then don’t do it. I find much too much value is placed on assertiveness which by most peoples understanding is pushyness and aggressiveness. This doesn’t work for everyone and is just another box to shove people into. I think there needs to be, in terms of women and the workplace, more emphasizes on being realistic and confident in your own abilities and what you have to offer and setting boundaries for what you are comfortable with. Women and men don’t hear this enough I think. Being loud and out there makes me uncomfortable. Being quiet, listening, diligent and understanding my field well has worked for me. I have done fantastically, on my own scale of success, by using my abilities the best I can an not trying to be someone else. Introverts, and soft spoken people need to know there are other options. Too many get shoved into the “be assertive” box and hate it or fail at it. A bad analogy, but you may have to wait 15 minutes before the teacher sees you have your hand in the air but it finally gets noticed when you have the right answer every goddamn time.
Apparently I spent a decent chunk of my twenties not being real. Mind. Blown.
In feminist utopia, though, I would have been real. Yeah, Virgil, sounds like a world gone to shit to me.
Also, aren’t overweight men also ostracized and mocked (though not in the same ways or to the same degree as women)? This is one of the things that my (often horrible) mom and (mostly not horrible) grandfather suck at and I have heard them make fun of overweight and obese men and women roughly equally. How is Virgil’s world a change at all in this respect? So the shittiness of the world wouldn’t really change here. Virgil sucks at world-building.
@bad_dog
I don’t think it is bad. A teacher who didn’t notice would be a bad teacher. It would have no reflection on you as a student.
OMG! Bring on the zombie apocalypse if it’s all zombie kitties!!
My girls would want me to tell you that they are modern feminist kittehs who work hard for their upkeep, thankyouverymuch! They patrol the house regularly making absolutely sure that we’re all safe from an uprising of the evil, treacherous paper! They spend most of the day in my office (it’s one of the sunniest rooms in the house) and they put in 8 to 10 hours a day! It takes a lot of effort to make sure that every book or piece of paper gets laid on long enough to make sure that it doesn’t get ideas. Evie likes to drape herself across the hanging folders to make sure that even the filed paper knows its place and stays there. Every so often a sticky note or a crumpled piece of paper will escape and need to be fought bravely and mercilessly until it is in (soggy) bits across the rug, so they know they must remain ever vigilant!
Virgil reminds me of a joke that can be adapted for this situation:
One day an upper class man, a middle class man, a woman and an MRA are sitting around a table with 8 cookies. The upper class man grabs and eats 7 cookies. The MRA turns to the middle class guy and says “be wary of the woman, she wants your cookie”