I haven’t been paying much attention to the recent brouhaha over Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg’s new book. But I feel safe in saying that MRA lackwit Christian J.’s “Sheryl Sandberg, Your Usual “Modern” Crass, Arrogant, Sexist, Biased Female” may be the dumbest thing anyone has written, or ever will write, on the subject.
Mr J’s post on WMASAW – the blog that used to be called What Men Are Saying About Women – starts off with a puzzling description of Sandberg as an “arrogant Lindsay Lohan Look-a-like, [who] Promotes sexism, bias and hate.” (Um, what?) And it only gets worse from there:
It is amazing what these sexist and abusive, addled females get away with while they continually praise themselves and raise themselves as being the “Saviours” of the world with the “If Only Women ran the World” meme. Take Sandberg for example, the bastion of that left-wing mentality … .
Yes, that’s right. Mr. J is describing Sandberg as a “bastion” of left-wing thought. Mr. J and the English language are not good friends.
They make the claim that “Equality” is about the aim of making women level with men, erm! level suggests what? In every area possible, even if it means reducing standards and tests and lowering anything that women have problems with. …
Every time they make the same claim that (Lindsay Lohan Look-a-Like)Sandberg bloviates about here, like every other member of that same HATE movement, it was never about anything else but giving women a FREE ride to the top and don’t anyone every dare hold them back because there would be screaming and wailing and it would be introduce another excuse to cry that usual lie of “holding them back”, amazing.
In reality, it’s because job placement used to be based on merit and ability, even though that has been tossed out and replaced with quotas in favour of women. It has everything to do with sexism, v*gina and pro-female “Equal Opportunity” as Sandberg denies is the case. ….
What a sexist loathsome, despicable female.
Mr J. then quotes a couple of not-exactly earthshatteringly controversial comments of Sandberg’s:
“I think a world that was run where half our countries and half our companies were run by women, would be a better world.”
“I hope that . . . you have the ambition to run the world,” Sandberg told Barnard graduates, “because this world needs you to run it.”
As Mr. J figures it, Sandberg is promulgating female supremacy here, “saying that every females alive could out perform any male. Sickening, petty, self-congratulatory, back-slapping and wishful thinking or what !”
I choose “what.” (They speak English in What?)
Mr J, for his part, seems to believe that, in an inversion of the the man-hatred he attributes to feminists, every male alive could outperform any female:
As far as I can see so far, those countries that have women in charge, are not doing that crash hot at all. …
Yet this odious and tedious Sandberg has the temerity to state that the world would be a better place run by women. What a complete, compulsive liar that women really is, women these days have problems being genuine and real, let alone anything else. But it does demonstrate that standard egotistical side of these “New Women”, who have been granted the easy option and helped along the way, every way possible by compliant men. Do they get any thanks for it, forget that. They just get the knife in the back for their efforts and gloat, even after changing conditions, being sued, forced to comply to changes that women demand and then turn around and state “Look at me, I am so good” .
Was that last sentence even a sentence? If so, please diagram it for me. I dare ya!
What hypocrites they are. It is about time men stopped capitulating to these arrogant and narcissistic females, stopped giving them automatic promotions, a free ride and start giving them some competition and let’s see how well they go then.
It’s always funny when blithering idiots suggest that women’s brains are inferior to their own.
@ Gillian
20 weeks now 🙂 So far so good.
Some Gal: That article and study is awful. All of that could be filed under “well, no shit,” and how interesting that men who were adaptive had no success. Makes me wonder how this study was put together.
How does he jump from “If half the world’s countries and half the world’s corporations were run by females” to “if the world was run by females”?
Does he assume that if the world was run by females they would still assign half of all the leadership jobs to men?
@hellkell
Here is a NPR article discussing the different perceptions of men and women asking for a raise in exactly the same way and finding that women needed to ask in a differently, more traditionally feminine way to avoid being disliked.
Here is a Washington Post piece discussing how when women follow the advice for men, the strategies that work for men, they did worse than women who didn’t follow that advice.
Here is a CNN article discussing findings that men who did what they are supposed to did better than men who did not while women who did what men are supposed to didn’t do much better than women who didn’t.
@hellkell
Yeah. I think it was so bad it broke my browser. 🙂 I think the study was desperate to find out what worked and found that, surprise surprise, the successful women are human beings! Which tells us nothing really.
I think I’m working for an unusual place because our CEO is relatively evolved for a man in the C suite. I think a large part of that is because he has a daughter–who yes, is a VP, but she can actually do the job and do it well–so he’s OK with promoting women who do a good job, not just those who kiss his ass.
Our owner is a different story. He’s installed his asshole little brother, and holy shit is this guy walking insecurity, which to me makes him incredibly dangerous. Just what we need, some man child with an ego problem who needs constant coddling and validation.
For customer service jobs, I found a study (that I can re-find if anyone is interested) that showed it was the presence of a woman or POC that led to complaints. I don’t know what is in the actual study, but that makes me despair for humanity.
OK, um, I hate to break this to you, but that is an entirely correct use of the word “bastion”.
Some Gal: I bet that’s because assholes think they can complain and steamroll over a woman or POC to get their way.
@Some Gal I’d be interested, actually. Whenever I hear something like that, I tend to want to go to the study itself and see what it says. Then, when I need to rant about it, I have the details at hand!
@hellkell My sympathies!
@ some gal
whopsie. That last part was me *blushes*
Regarding the ND ban, they have also made it illegal to have an abortion due to genetic anomalies with the fetus. They’re yammering about preventing eugenics, but the reality is that any reasonable person imagines that having an abortion due to a genetic anomaly with the fetus is nothing but heart wrenching, regardless of the outcome, and is not a decision made out of a desire to cleanse the human race but, rather, to minimize suffering. There are no exceptions or loopholes in the law, so even in cases of inevitably terminal diseases which result in short, pain filled lives, women are prevented from being able to choose what to do. That’s horrible, in my opinion. Some people will think it is right to continue the pregnancy and comfort the resulting infant during its life, others will think that an abortion is the more merciful option (or, let it not be overlooked, the only option they can afford), but it is something that the woman should be able to decide with the support and guidance of her doctors, family, and friends.
The whole bill is a real ugly piece of work.
@hellkell
The problem with trying to change workplace culture only or primarily through women pushing their way up is the women who get promoted are probably going to be those who most adhere to the culture, which doesn’t change a lot. Women are fully capable of discriminating against other women just like men are.
Even without the studies, though, it just doesn’t seem like only telling women to change to fit workplace culture is a good long-term solution. It seems like rather than breaking down the gender binary and our assumptions about what good men and good women each are, we are sending the message that only stereotypically masculine qualities are valuable and stereotypically feminine ones are, if anything, just a little bonus that women bring to “male” jobs.
@Marie
The blockquote monster got ya. (I “gah”ed too though, so it works.)
I guess I should’ve known the blockquote monster would get me someday.
Okay, the comments on that CNN article are gag inducingly familiar.
That’s just about anyone in a corporate culture who gets promoted. And that last sentence was totally unecessary, IMHO.
Congratulations starskita!
Some Gal, helkell: I believe there is a difference between (1) encouraging women to be ambitious and telling them that those who discourage them from being ambitious are sexist and holding them back, and (2) telling women “it is all your fault for not being more ambitious”. Of course, there is a fine line here, and it might be easy to fall from “encouraging women to be more ambitious” to sounding like one is blaming them for not being more ambitious. But I don’t believe that it is impossible to do the former without doing the latter, just as I believe it is possible to do the former while also calling out and trying to work against the many external factors that discourage women from, and punish women for, being ambitious and assertive.
@starskita Congratulations and best wishes!!
@hellkell
I just mentioned it because a couple of the studies determined that women actually have a greater bias against assertive women than men do.* And, yes, it is true of most people who get promoted share the company culture, but that is why we should direct as much attention to forcing that to change as we do advising women to just be more assertive, and/or be more ambitious.
*If true, this could mean that more women in charge might actually hurt women in the lower levels of a company more.
@starskita
Congratulations! Yay for more mini Manboobzers. 🙂
@hellkell
Here is the race and gender study.
As with most things, it depends on the individual. But, hey, thanks for giving the sexists more ammo with that line.
Study needs a subscription to read, it looks like.