I haven’t been paying much attention to the recent brouhaha over Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg’s new book. But I feel safe in saying that MRA lackwit Christian J.’s “Sheryl Sandberg, Your Usual “Modern” Crass, Arrogant, Sexist, Biased Female” may be the dumbest thing anyone has written, or ever will write, on the subject.
Mr J’s post on WMASAW – the blog that used to be called What Men Are Saying About Women – starts off with a puzzling description of Sandberg as an “arrogant Lindsay Lohan Look-a-like, [who] Promotes sexism, bias and hate.” (Um, what?) And it only gets worse from there:
It is amazing what these sexist and abusive, addled females get away with while they continually praise themselves and raise themselves as being the “Saviours” of the world with the “If Only Women ran the World” meme. Take Sandberg for example, the bastion of that left-wing mentality … .
Yes, that’s right. Mr. J is describing Sandberg as a “bastion” of left-wing thought. Mr. J and the English language are not good friends.
They make the claim that “Equality” is about the aim of making women level with men, erm! level suggests what? In every area possible, even if it means reducing standards and tests and lowering anything that women have problems with. …
Every time they make the same claim that (Lindsay Lohan Look-a-Like)Sandberg bloviates about here, like every other member of that same HATE movement, it was never about anything else but giving women a FREE ride to the top and don’t anyone every dare hold them back because there would be screaming and wailing and it would be introduce another excuse to cry that usual lie of “holding them back”, amazing.
In reality, it’s because job placement used to be based on merit and ability, even though that has been tossed out and replaced with quotas in favour of women. It has everything to do with sexism, v*gina and pro-female “Equal Opportunity” as Sandberg denies is the case. ….
What a sexist loathsome, despicable female.
Mr J. then quotes a couple of not-exactly earthshatteringly controversial comments of Sandberg’s:
“I think a world that was run where half our countries and half our companies were run by women, would be a better world.”
“I hope that . . . you have the ambition to run the world,” Sandberg told Barnard graduates, “because this world needs you to run it.”
As Mr. J figures it, Sandberg is promulgating female supremacy here, “saying that every females alive could out perform any male. Sickening, petty, self-congratulatory, back-slapping and wishful thinking or what !”
I choose “what.” (They speak English in What?)
Mr J, for his part, seems to believe that, in an inversion of the the man-hatred he attributes to feminists, every male alive could outperform any female:
As far as I can see so far, those countries that have women in charge, are not doing that crash hot at all. …
Yet this odious and tedious Sandberg has the temerity to state that the world would be a better place run by women. What a complete, compulsive liar that women really is, women these days have problems being genuine and real, let alone anything else. But it does demonstrate that standard egotistical side of these “New Women”, who have been granted the easy option and helped along the way, every way possible by compliant men. Do they get any thanks for it, forget that. They just get the knife in the back for their efforts and gloat, even after changing conditions, being sued, forced to comply to changes that women demand and then turn around and state “Look at me, I am so good” .
Was that last sentence even a sentence? If so, please diagram it for me. I dare ya!
What hypocrites they are. It is about time men stopped capitulating to these arrogant and narcissistic females, stopped giving them automatic promotions, a free ride and start giving them some competition and let’s see how well they go then.
It’s always funny when blithering idiots suggest that women’s brains are inferior to their own.
The best Meller moment was when he decided that we must all be jealous of Hello Kitty because she was so much more sexually appealing to men than us.
What was the name of the poster who told us again and again about his ex-fiance who admitted she’d rather rapture to heaven then go on. Then she broke off the engagement suddenly. He kept insisting she had no to right to change her mind.
Responding to his posts was like a test of endurance. I could feel all of us dehydrating during that episode.
Shiraz: I’ve blocked his name. Normal dude name though.
*chokes laughing on Vegemite toast*
Somehow I don’t think I’d be interested in a guy who found Hello Kitty a turn-on anyway, so no problem there.
I dunno if the volume of F1 cars would be comparable to a plane. They’re absolutely loud enough that you’d get hearing damage if exposed to them for long, loud enough to be painful – earplugs are a must. But it’s a much higher-pitched sound than a plane. It’s easy to hear over traffic, too. I was in the CBD on Friday – lots of cars, trucks and trams, plus buskers – and the sound of one car in practice a few kms away was very clear over it all.
Shiraz – Ray? Bob? Something short like that.
Endurance test is right, he was really strange.
It was those random moments of sheer WTF that made Meller so entertaining.
I dunno, I think I have to give it to the Houses of Pleasure. The way he kept trying to better explain them so that we would understand how great an idea it was. “No no, you sluts wouldn’t just be forced to be sex workers against your wishes, that’s appalling! You would also be forced to throw tea parties against your will!”
@Wally
Wow. Are you being intentionally obtuse? Do you not understand the nature of brain bleach? Do you not understand that a new father “passing around” his babies might not want them compared to a zombie baby doll? Do you not understand that the audience squeezing over the babies would also be upset by the comparison? Do you not understand that what you did was, at best, clueless and misleading and, at worst, malicious? Do you know how to apologize?
Do you know what a special snowflake is? Do you understand why implying CassandraSays is one is offensives? Do you understand that “you are not like those other girls” is insulting? If not, how have you missed the numerous times when it has been explicitly stated at this site (most recently, during BlackBloc’s recent question about a dating site exchange)? Again, do you know how to apologize?
How long have you been reading Manboobz? Is it long enough to understand what we mean when we say “troll”? If not, do you think that reading more before delurking woild have been helpful in your case? Could you maybe start doing that now? Do you think you get to define “troll” or decide how we perceive you? Do you think that you should stick around or leave? What do you think, from the recent responses you’ve gotten, that the Manboobz community answer to the previous question is? Do you think you should respect that?
I don’t actually want you answers. I want you to shut up and think. Then, I think you should apologize and leave.
Meller’s comment to Ithilliana about her grad student who was murdered will live in the MBZ Hall of Shame for eternity.
Hmm. Yeah, I must of blocked his name from my memory too, hellkell. Whew, trauma.
The Hello Kitty thing…she has no discernible lady parts. I mean, sure, she wears pink and bows, but…
His reaction to the suggestion that women might want their own Houses was classic too. Why, that would be unnatural!
Rapture guy was Bob, I’m sure enough that I’d bet on it.
Show of hands who really wants Wally to stay? I’d be willing to give him another chance, but I am not raising my hand.
Given that Hello Kitty doesn’t have a mouth either I’m…confused as to what exactly Meller had in mind. OTOH, no mouth = no talking, so you can see why Meller would be a fan.
@Hellkell, yeah. That was one of the most despicable things I’ve ever seen someone say to anybody, never mind somebody mourning a loss.
Kitteh, Gal, I think you’re both right. That dude’s name was Bob.
Do I want Wally to stay? I dunno, he’s exciting as stale popcorn, so…
Eeesh, I forgot Hello Kitty doesn’t have a mouth, Cassandra.
Maybe it was something like Bob Smith for rapture dude.
It would be ideal if Wally were to fuck off of his own volition, but we all know the likelihood of that happening.
Dworkin has been rehabilitated. I thought everyone knew that. Someone smarter than I am pointed out if you substitute MRA or PUA for the word men in her books, it becomes difficult to fault her analysis.
I read only a few of her books when I was 20. I no longer remember the details, but I remember how I felt. For example, I could not fault the coitus as rape argument, even when I told women friends about her premise and they told me I was crazy. (FYI I’m a guy.) At the time I did not understand it because I hadn’t learned that I was the one with the unique childhood (dad was evil) and the women I met in college had come from families that actually loved their kids.
Even now, I don’t know that I would fault her logic, just her sampling method (she was a rape victim) and therefore her conclusions that she was describing all men. I would suggest that given the number of fuckwits that show up here to troll and their numbers on the MRA/PUA sites, that the number of men she was describing, while smaller than she thought, is a great deal larger than her critics have given her credit for.
Seconding what hellkell said. That aside, everytime I see porcelain dolls now my brain goes “my little lady lovelies” so thank you DKM, for making creepy things even creepier (anyone seen the Criminal Minds with the porcelain dolls? One of the ones were Reid gets to save the day with his psych degree. Those dolls did not need my brain quoting DKM.)
Yeah, rapture guy’s name was kind of Generic Generic.
Joanimal: that’s intersting about Dworkin, but around here, our trolls only know her and Valerie Solanas. So when they invoke the Zombie Feminists, they think they’ve won something.
They really do think they are our feminist leader. For real.
…what hellkell said about Ithilliana’s grad student. Damn you guys are fast!
Wally, I think you should take the advice Hellkell gave you:
I’m going to put you on moderation until you can be a bit less creepy.
“Little lady lovelies” makes me think of that shitty Black Eyed Peas song. Never has there been a less sexy metaphor than “my lovely lady lumps”.
That song is evil. It’s dumb AND gets in your head all day.
Yeah, joanimal.
There’s this, http://radgeek.com/gt/2005/01/10/andrea_dworkin/ which explains a lot. I read a better piece, but couldn’t find it.