Over on PUAhate.com, a fellow named Virgil challenges the widely held manosphere notion that women start losing their appeal once they hit their early 20s. According to him, the real turning point comes at the ripe old age of 25 or so. Why? Let’s let him explain — and in the process demonstrate how to use the word “c*ntathlon” in a sentence.
Behaviour has to count for something.
Any between ages 18-21 is in her Looks/reproductive Prime but The behaviour in these ages stinks.
Its like a competition to see who can out-cunt the other.
From simple things like skipping lines, to humiliating people in public, to ostracising people.
Its a damn cuntathlon.
We have to have some quality control here okes.
I fully agree that age 24-25 is the tip of the iceberg here folk.
Walk with me.
-she still looks attractive
-She’s starting work and therefore is in a controlled environment where validation is far less.Thus cooling the cunty behaviour
-she’s at the perfect equilibriu$ of grown up behaviour and youthful Looks.
Virgil gets some challenges from the regulars.
JackOfJokers argues that 25-year-olds are still as badly behaved as 18-21-year-olds, and not as good-looking:
Sounds nice in theory Virgil, but the truth is they still get validated fuckloads by desperate office guys, they’re super stuck up, and they definitely look much worse; fat, cellulite, wrinkles, shitty diet, etc.
Mechanical Animals agrees:
If you think girls act much different from 18-21 to 24-25 you are fucking deluded.
Life after high school is exactly that, a continuation after high school.
What does this mean is exactly that, the good looking people keeps living in a bubble of validation way past their academical period.
Life of the sub 8 is a dead end, a merciless damnation. Think about all these beautiful, fucking females. You will never touch them.
The “sub-8” bit is a reference to the notion, seemingly held by 90% of the denizens of PUAhate, that only “male models” ever get to have sex with women.
Genetically Inferior, meanwhile, makes the case for “jailbait.”
15-18 is prime for a female but nobody will admit it
This arouses much ire from the regulars, not so much because Genetically Inferior is being a crepy pedo, but because “at 15 most chicks barely even have any tits developed,” as the similarly named Genetics puts it. “Wake up to reality incel,” Genetics continues in a second comment,
stop comparing tumblr feeds and “jailbait” associated websites of the top percent of teens to the average titless whore. At fifteen you’re merely in grade 10, most chicks have little tits and ass to show for.
Doesn’t start getting good untill 17-18 then peak at 21
I gave up reading the thread at this point as it seemed to have degenerated into little more than a collection of “jailbait” pictures.
Just had a swim in the pool with kids, contemplating a glass of wine while Mr BigMomma whips up a veggie curry for dinner. Got a 4yr old’s birthday party tomorrow morning and a grown up birthday party in the arvo. The sun is shining, the floods have receded and life is pretty damn good. Wishing all manboobzers joy over their weekends.
@BigMomma
Thanks! Have a blast with those birthday parties! 🙂
This is Miss Maddie’s way of saying “You put something in my chair and I can’t sit there!”
http://youtu.be/NVS7dwsn–8
I had to reschedule an interview that was meant to happen last weekend because I was too sick then, so I have back to back interviews on Sunday. Normally I try not to do that, but there’s a deadline approaching. Other than that, hang out outside with Mr C if it’s sunny!
I think I crapped up my question…sorry about that. (I am not so gud at English.)
I meant using popular music as a metric. I look at jazz (and even big band) clubs where places young people went to have fun without people having a stink about it, as evidence of an era where young women felt freer to go have fun, which could imply they felt freer about their own sexuality as well (at least when backed by other sources such as M Dubz’ reading.) So how did a prudish era like the 50s modify U.S. middle class culture so quickly? Why did it occur at all?
The rock&roll remark was just to highlight the difference between an era where women felt free and independent to have fun on their own and an era only 10 years later where the same aged women were regard as needing protection from the evils of popular culture.
@joanimal
Oh. I actually don’t have to wildly guess then. That’s probably best for all of us.
Some of it is a change in what the middle-class was doing dating and sex-wise. Dating starts roughly around the turn of the century, which gradually spreads from the lower classes. This is a big deal because (while parents often gave couples courting their privacy anyway) young people are out unsupervised. Around the 50s, couples begin to “go steady” that is, practice serial monogamy. This is a huge deal because where before you might have premarital sex with someone you intended to marry, now you might have it with someone you didn’t. (This is a little oversimplified, but is the general trajectory.)
Additionally, around the 50s, you also see a lot of Freudian vaginal orgasm stuff which reinforces gender essentialism, etc. which puts a lot of worry about women being sexually “correct” front and center with worries of parenting/raising kids through the correct developmental stages. So, that probably played a part. If raising a kid wrong could make her a slut, you are going to care a lot more about how she turns out, imo.
Both if those trends are from Straight, btw.
I should note thay dating always involved some sex, and not necessarily with who you would eventually marry, but it was easier to pretend it didn’t when it wasn’t serious. Once it got serious with “going steady,” it was assumed that sex would come up and no one (except perhaps the people dating and going steady) wanted that.
I read (and have) Hanne Blank’s Virgin and now I am curious to check if she has anything about virginity in the 1950s. I can take a look tomorrow when I’m not heading toward bedtime and if it says anything, I’ll let you know.
The dating lots of people vs going steady thing was talked about in a History Today magazine some years ago; it mentions that the parents of the kids going steady (ie the ones who’d had lots of dates when they were young) were sometimes a bit baffled by the whole going steady thing, and saw it as the kids lacking ambition and settling for less. Which is a curious thing to think of in the 50s as I’d think of them.
Wasn’t there a deliberate push by the US government after the war to get women out of the workplace, to make room for the returning soldiers? Was the shift in attitude part of that, or was there (wild speculation here) a sort of nostalgia for the world before both wars kicking in?
I’m probably missing a comment you made before, Some Gal, but what did you think of Hanne Blank’s book? It sounds interesting.
The feminists. And white knights may disagree but Ill explain my point.
Point 1. “Rejecting men”.
There is nothing wrong with this and its totally understandable that a women in a position of sexual power would seek out the best mate she could
However, women will disqualify men on the slightest flaw but expect men to be forgiving.
You have the longest laundry list of the perfect prince charming. Won’t settle for anything less but YOU YOURSELVES ARE EXTREMELY FLAWED.
I see young girls who want rich, good looking, charming, tall, car-having, social, well-cultured guys from well-heeled families( social climbing).
What do these girls offer? Fake hair, Caked up faces full of make-up, High BMI’s, nuerosis, insecurity, bicthyness and an obsession with social climbing.
Any man who doesn’t fit your narrow lens of perfection Is treated like a rapist. I can’t even ask for directions without some uppity whore using the opportunity to humiliate a 3/10 male like myself.
Example: I’m looking for a bar in the CBD in my city, going to join my brothers for a few drinks, I try to stop a couple in front of me to ask for directions!
A) This typical western bitch damn near loses her shoes running away, to avoid me
B) Her boyfriend sticks around greets me laughing because of how stupid the situation looks while he tells me where the bar is.
2 completely different behaviours.
The man is nice and helps me.
The woman skips away because I don’t fit the mould of the type of person she wants to speak to.
Fucking slut.
cool story, bro
I now reject Virgil on the grounds that my laundry list includes things like “knows how to use basic punctuation” and “doesn’t call people sluts because they don’t want to talk to him because not only is he a raging misogynist, he does not understand the concept that words mean things”.
Since I have deduced from Virgil’s comments that he is EXTREMELY FLAWED*, this rejection is perfectly justified, as there is no reason why I should settle for someone so flawed (and with such a tendency to to deploy the caps of rage when feeling a bit pouty) when I can easily find much more interesting commenters to talk to.
* RAGE, WHY DO THOSE EVIL BITCHES KEEP SPITTING ON ME!!???!!!
Woman Comes from a middle class family, is overweight, short and works a shitty office job,
Instead of NOTING that she’s far from perfect and cooling off on the douchey behaviour and demands
She
Expects her mate to be a 27year old 6’ft tall beast from an OLD MONEY family and Ivy League Varsity, Well Built, Chris Hemworth look-alike Investment Banking Vice President with a high pay cheque to feed her Shoe habit and love of fine dining.
Fuck out of here.
I AM SO UPSET THAT PRETTY WOMEN WON’T FUCK ME, BEHOLD MY EPIC TANTRUM.
and STILL he keeps going with his cool stories. He should try to get them published. Not.
wait, wait, I can make shit up too!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh hang on, I can’t be arsed
Fantasies about a FemiNazi Dystopia, by Some Whiny Asshole.
(self-published, limited print run.)
Look @ Cassandra making fun of me.
You know I’m right. You probably expect nothing less than a Chris Hemworth look-alike who is rich and has a wide network of friends.
Oh god forbid he isn’t a BANKER, otherwise who will pay for your credit card debt and overdrafts accrued from most womens love of attention whoring?
Always wanna be seen, always gotta have the best, the new Berkin, The over the counter Louis Vuitton, Gotta have all eyes on you.
Gotta go to that Polo game to “network” with argentinian poloplayers and the wealthy.
Gotta go to the trendiest places with your GURRRRLFRIENDS to take vanity pics and post them on your shitty tumblr with TAGS and headings that say “OPULENCE”. “LE GOOD LIFE”
Fuck women are such losers.
vanity press?
Maybe Berkin is the name of his vanity press. He thought it sounded classy and might attract the ladies.
Virgil, do you get dizzy from spinning around in so much shit?
fucking LOL.
I know nothing about your looks or your income,Virgil, but you’re not for me, based solely on your atrocious personality.
I’m sure we are both happy about that.
BigMomma is either a feminist or a loser white knight.
I’m pissed because women won’t have sex with me? Bullshit.
I’m pissed for other reasons. Just don’t like how the modern woman behaves. Don’t like the double standards, the entitlement complex, the attitude, high expectations whilst offering ZERO etc.
I am a 3/10 male with nothing to offer women. I’m just not meant to mate. Which is why I Never approach or even talk to women, I don’t have anything they want physically.
Why would a woman want me when there are tall bankers with square jaws out there?
Random – the best soundtrack for mocking whiny losers is definitely Ministry (I just discovered this), despite the unlikelihood that it will attract polo players who want to buy you misspelled handbags.