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Men Who Hate Women Debate How Quickly Women Go Bad

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Over on PUAhate.com, a fellow named Virgil challenges the widely held manosphere notion that women start losing their appeal once they hit their early 20s. According to him, the real turning point comes at the ripe old age of 25 or so. Why? Let’s let him explain — and in the process demonstrate how to use the word “c*ntathlon” in a sentence.

Behaviour has to count for something.

Any between ages 18-21 is in her Looks/reproductive Prime but The behaviour in these ages stinks.

Its like a competition to see who can out-cunt the other.

From simple things like skipping lines, to humiliating people in public, to ostracising people.

Its a damn cuntathlon.

We have to have some quality control here okes.

I fully agree that age 24-25 is the tip of the iceberg here folk.

Walk with me.

-she still looks attractive

-She’s starting work and therefore is in a controlled environment where validation is far less.Thus cooling the cunty behaviour

-she’s at the perfect equilibriu$ of grown up behaviour and youthful Looks.

Virgil gets some challenges from the regulars.

JackOfJokers argues that 25-year-olds are still as badly behaved  as 18-21-year-olds, and not as good-looking:

Sounds nice in theory Virgil, but the truth is they still get validated fuckloads by desperate office guys, they’re super stuck up, and they definitely look much worse; fat, cellulite, wrinkles, shitty diet, etc.

Mechanical Animals agrees:

If you think girls act much different from 18-21 to 24-25 you are fucking deluded.

Life after high school is exactly that, a continuation after high school.

What does this mean is exactly that, the good looking people keeps living in a bubble of validation way past their academical period.

Life of the sub 8 is a dead end, a merciless damnation. Think about all these beautiful, fucking females. You will never touch them.

The “sub-8” bit is a reference to the notion, seemingly held by 90% of the denizens of PUAhate, that only “male models” ever get to have sex with women.

Genetically Inferior, meanwhile, makes the case for “jailbait.”

15-18 is prime for a female but nobody will admit it

This arouses much ire from the regulars, not so much because Genetically Inferior is being a crepy pedo, but because “at 15 most chicks barely even have any tits developed,” as the similarly named Genetics puts it. “Wake up to reality incel,” Genetics continues in a second comment,

stop comparing tumblr feeds and “jailbait” associated websites of the top percent of teens to the average titless whore. At fifteen you’re merely in grade 10, most chicks have little tits and ass to show for.

Doesn’t start getting good untill 17-18 then peak at 21

I gave up reading the thread at this point as it seemed to have degenerated into little more than a collection of “jailbait” pictures.

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Historophilia
Historophilia
11 years ago

@Freemage, the petition isn’t actually something I’ve asked for. All they technically want at this stage to appeal is a letter arguing against the reasons they’ve given.

This petition is basically to make it stand out, make them sit up a bit, and make it clear that we’re not going to just go away and leave them alone.

It’s pretty much to say “We are organised, we are passionate, we have support, we have imagination and innovation and we are not going away or giving up without making your life more difficult than it needs to be first”.

If they don’t ratify us after the letter and petition, I’ll run another petition, a much bigger one and aim for way more signatures, I’ll also start a social media campaign and run a campaign via our campus media. I’ve already got interest from the editor of the main newspaper and from several media outlets.

And our Union pays a lot of attention to the student media, so if I can get them onside and putting pressure on them they’ll probably cave at that point.

Oh and I’ll also have a letter writing campaign, getting people to write in to the Union in support and fill up their inboxes and desks.

There isn’t, as far as I’m aware, a set of steps that people usually go through to appeal, mainly because our Union isn’t used to being challenged.

Viscaria
Viscaria
11 years ago

An embarrassed asocial guy will be accused of being misogynist and rape-apologist and being a patriarchy supporter for having spewed some hateful things in an unknown website nobody’s never heard of.

What a truly impassioned speech defending the free speech rights of this poor man who has admitted to groping strangers, Brz. You’re right, in a truly free society he would face no consequences for confessing he committed a crime. Let me guess: you don’t think there should be legal ramifications for touching women in public without their permission?

I’m with Cloudiah re: US government controlling Internet speech, but you’re deliberately muddying the issue by pretending the only thing he could be punished for is saying misogynistic things. He routinely assaults people. There is no reason that confession shouldn’t be used against him if it can be traced to him.

Viscaria
Viscaria
11 years ago

Necro troll over here if anybody’s bored. Not sure if he’s coming back though.

M Dubz
11 years ago

@Viscaria- Exactly right. This dude isn’t being “accused of” anything. He IS all of those things, and (potentially, something about this reads as wank writing rather than confession) a dude who commits crimes.

Marie
11 years ago

@lolbeast

hello! welcome 😀

ps your avatar seems to be hypnotizing me O_o

-I will obey my feminist overlordddssss-

@brz

don’t think that guys gonna face a judge.* Do think he’s a misogynistic creep.

*ignoring the fact that he should, given the randomly groping strangers.

ostara321
ostara321
11 years ago

Yes, let’s all feel bad for the poor dude who admitted to sexually assaulting strangers. *plays world’s saddest song on world’s tiniest, most out of tune violin*

He would not be arrested for being a misogynist douchebag. He COULD be arrested for admitting to groping strangers IF (big ginormous if) cops could actually link him to a reported sexual assault. At least in the US, just saying “I did this one illegal thing once” isn’t even enough to actually warrant an arrest unless he takes himself to the cops and admits to perpetrating a specific crime.

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
11 years ago

Sorry, I misspoke–it’s even older, from at least the Regency period! So Jane Austen may have put ketchup on her food.

*imagines a bottle of Heinz being passed around in the Brighton Royal Pavillion dining room*

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Brz still isn’t French.

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
11 years ago

@Brz

Those are not “embarressed, asocial guys”. These are guys unable to see women outside the context of their dick. They’re creepy as hell.

Also he admitted to groping women in public and stealing underwear. I’m pretty sure those are both illegal.

Brz
Brz
11 years ago

I truly love you American liberals. An American liberal can never be completely bad because behind all the leftist crap, there’s always a little bit of American libertarianism that just wait to express himself and shout a call for liberty at the face of the world.

I’ve witnessed the cyber-war against reactionary blogs in France. That was both funny and terrific. These blogs were places where everyone was a troll : racist, misogynist, communist and libertarian insulting each other all the time. Since the blog owners were almost all right-wing anarchist dandies with a strong aversion for censorship, all kind of different trolls were keeping writing different kind of hateful commentaries and these blogs were regularly shut down : a blog was shut down because a troll wrote a negationist rant, it reappeared few days later somewhere else and was shut down again after a few weeks and reappeared again and was shut down again and on and on. That was globally inoffensive cat-and-mouse games but sometimes an anti-racist/sexist/homophobic association managed to bring someone in front of the judge and that was suddenly less funny.
People’s understood quickly that the best way to avoid these problems is to refuge themselves in the American side of Internet and where you can be protected by American Free-speech laws : use wordpress instead of a French blogging platform, WordPress will not shut down your blog each time a zealous activist report your blog and as long as you’re anonymous, you won’t face a judge because someone think what you’ve written is hateful.
Although, French officials have found the parade : force American websites to snitch. A few months ago, Jew associations asked Twitter to remove antisemitic jokes, Twitter responded “free-speech”, these associations filled a complain and now Twitter is forced by the French law to reveal the identity of French residents who’ve written a tweet which could be seen as hateful to the associations so they can put him on trial (Twitter is also forced to allow these associations to write kind of “trigger warnings” which will appear in top of the screen when you search a problematic hashtag, something saying “racism/antisemitism/sexism/homophobia is not an opinion it’s a crime” probably, they used to love to say that kind of things). It’s just a matter of time before these associations do the same thing for WordPress.

The actual tendency is to the globalisation of the (Western) world and we’ve already seen that this means destroying the good things in each country and let the bad ideas become the prevalent norm.
In this sense, all western countries will be ruled one day by a soviet-like social-democrat state which will use a synthesis of French Jacobin intellectual terrorism, English political correctness, Scandinavian progressive zeal and American stupid “privilege” concept in order to complete the Utopian multi-kulti gender-neutral, non-racist, non-ableist, non-agist where everybody is equal except the so-called privileged ones and where we tolerate everyone except the ones who’re suspected to be against equality.
France will have one day American campuses where every white hetero guy can be silenced if he dares to share an opinion which is not in conformity with the feminist/multi-kulti doxa by the only accusation of being “privilege-denying”. US will have an internet firewall to prevent men to perpetuate sexism while watching porn and leftist associations will put in trial every poor lad who dares to share non-egalitarian thoughts on an Internet forum and we will all gather in public manifestations to recite multi-kulti mantras like crazy Norwegians.

As regard to the sexual assaults this guy confessed to do, Foucault wrote interesting things about that in the first tome of his “history of sexuality”, he said that from an historical point of view, what really changed in the general attitude towards sexuality during the last three centuries isn’t that sexuality’s been less repressed but that we’ve transformed sex in a discourse, that every perversion, every sexual behavior have been classified, analyzed, pathologized by scientists, psychologists, judges.
Foucault gave the example of how were treated “village idiots” before the modern era : the mix of reprobation and indifference to the inappropriate sexual behaviors they can have, a ‘village idiot” could have shown his dick in public without ending in prison because… people used to think that it’s not so important. During the 19th century, scientifics have pathologized all kind of inappropriate sexual behavior, asylum institutions proposed to treat these sexually dysfunctional people, judiciary institutions enforced laws to prevent all these kinds of acts to happen.
The thesis of Foucault is that we’ve never come out of this, we’re still Victorian puritans, and more importantly the ones who propose to “liberate sexuality” share with the 19th puritans this tendency to over-analyze, classify and generally transform in discourse sex. They also refuse to accept any “grey zone” to exist , any ambiguity, any sexual behavior which don’t need to be named, put in a box, and legalized or forbidden depending on what recognized institutions said.
We can use Foucault’s thesis to make an interesting comparison between the “hysterization of women’s bodies” by scientists and psychologists during the 19th and the actual pathologization of masculinity and men’s sexuality. The so-called source of evil changed but the system and the methods are the same.
The fact that we consider that an asocial guy who grop a girl in the street isn’t just a little misconduct which probably don’t even need to be prosecuted, but a sexual assault that threatens the social order shows were our totalitarian tendencies come from : the modern over-suspicious attitude towards sex.

joanimal
joanimal
11 years ago

Brz,

Wut?

You nutballs must all smoke the same weed, because you are all so boringly long-winded about fantasies that only exist in your head, but also make you terribly unhappy.

You guys are a sad lot…

Marie
11 years ago

I got bored through brz’s rant. Is he mostly whining about people censoring hate speech? I couldn’t tell…

Bagelsan
11 years ago

Somewhere Foucault is rolling over in his grave…

cloudiah
11 years ago

Winnie-the on,” said: “And buzzing a began eat buzzing, he this funny he climbed, and in to climbed as honey? Buzz! Buzzing-noise mean?” as he oak-tree, a buzzing and said: “And bee the for between he name of the walking, he name only voice. He came ago now, about was he gold likes ‘under that I came’ means something time to himself. It meaning time, the climbed, and the walking-noise, somebody’s a buzzing, he was I know of is place in gold likes he name a because you’re climb the only reason forest

This makes about as much sense as Brz, and is less boring.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

I think I may have stubbed a toe on Brz’s wall o’ text. We need caution cones near that thing.

Bagelsan
11 years ago

The fact that we consider that an asocial guy who grop a girl in the street isn’t just a little misconduct which probably don’t even need to be prosecuted, but a sexual assault that threatens the social order shows were our totalitarian tendencies come from : the modern over-suspicious attitude towards sex.

FEMINISTS ARE JUST REPRESSED. OPEN SOURCE BOOB PROJECT! WHOO! *gropes all the people*

…at least, I think that’s what he’s getting at?

Some Gal Not Bored at All

@Bagelsan

That is hilariously horrifying.

Falconer
11 years ago

Brz fait me dormir.

Je peut parler francais plus bien qu’il peut parler l’anglais, et toujours savons qu’il est jamais francais.

Brz
Brz
11 years ago

Brz [me] fait dormir.

Je peu[x] parler fran[ç]ais bien [mieux] qu’il [ne] peut parler []anglais, et [nous] savons qu’il [n’]est [pas] fran[ç]ais.

Bagelsan
11 years ago

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ…

Some Gal Not Bored at All

Aww. How adorbs. He wants to teach.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Fade
11 years ago

BRZ: “The fact that we consider that an asocial guy who grop a girl in the street isn’t just a little misconduct which probably don’t even need to be prosecuted, but a sexual assault that threatens the social order shows were our totalitarian tendencies come from : the modern over-suspicious attitude towards sex”

Um… screw the guy. Who cares if he’s asocial? He’s still assaulting somebody. “He doesn’t need to be prosecuted” according to priveleged dickwads who know this thing will never happen to them.

Ugh. Apologies for that kind of shit make me sick.

Fade
11 years ago

@ cloudiah: That cute humming bird functioned as perfect brain bleach. 🙂 Unless it was just to point out the boringness of the troll. ;p

Falconer
11 years ago

qu’il [n’]est [pas] fran[ç]ais.

Wow, you’re square.

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