So there’s an old school type of Pickup Artistry called Speed Seduction in which, instead of simply trying to manipulate the ladies into bed, our would-be seducers try to literally hypnotize their prey by repeating prefabricated “patterns” that supposedly work on people’s subconscious minds without them realizing it. The whole thing is based on something called Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), which most scientists seem to think is quackery. Most of the pickup techniques inspired by NLP are beyond ridiculous.
One NLP-inspired PUA “pattern,” for example, involves using the phrase “below me” when talking to the Hot Babes. Since “below me” sounds vaguely like “blow me,” you see, the Hot Babe you’re talking to will be subconsciously primed to want to give you a blow job. And no, I’m not making this up.
The creepiest PUA “pattern” I’ve run across so far is something called the “Door Pattern,” invented by some dude named Alex Domnikov, and recently brought to my attention by Mike Booth, the guy behind the hilarious Some Grey Bloke videos on Youtube.
One PUA has described the Door Pattern as “the “bad boy” of all patterns. … evil and cruel, playing on the fears and deep insecurities of women.”
Essentially, the idea behind this little routine is to manipulate any Hot Babe you’ve somehow convinced to sleep with you into desperately worrying that you’ll abandon her. Why she would consider this a bad thing, I’m not sure, as PUAs are not known for being especially sensitive lovers. But we’ll just suspend our disbelief and continue.
[TRIGGER WARNING for emotional abuse in what follows]
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So how does this dastardly Door Pattern work? Well, after you’ve had sex with a woman, and she’s feeling all glowy, you point to the door and ask her “sweetheart, what’s that over there?”
And she’ll say, “well you know, that’s a door, silly.” And you say, “yeah, you know.. I’m a real positive person, but.. I mean, can you imagine.. I mean, you don’t know what can happen from day to day, when you think about it in your mind. I mean, what would happen if I walked out that door and the door closed and as the door closed, it slammed shut, and no matter what you did, you could not open the door and you knew that you would never be able to look into my eyes again and you’d never be able to hear my voice again and you’d never be able to feel my touch again.” Ok, right here is where she starts going, “I don’t like this door business at all.”
So you reassure her a little, and then it’s back to the “door business” again:
Have some more fun with her, bring her to another orgasm or whatever and say, “you know, a terrible thing happened the other day. My friend was hit by a truck. I mean, it was awful, by the time they got him to hospital he was dead. I can’t believe it, you know? It’s almost as if, it would be a horrible thing you know when you think about..” (point towards the door) “..that no matter even if you were to get that door opened and you were to search, that you could never find me again..” Then she starts freaking out. You calibrate more on that part of, “you will never be able to see me again, you’ll never be able to hear my voice again.”
Repeat as necessary, and pretty soon any time she starts to get uppity, all you have to do is point to a door, and – ta da! – no more “bullshit” from her!
Having anchored that sense of loss and pain to the door, you can trigger it whenever needed. Whatever negative behavior may come up that you want to stop, the first time you just get up and slam the door. Whether you walk out the door depends on the level of bullshit. On later occasions you can just indicate tbe door in some manner. The example Alex gives: If he’s talking on the phone and getting any crap from her, and he knows the relation of where the door is to her desk, he says, “sweetheart, could you please turn right and take a look at what’s over there..” and that was the end of the bullshit.”
Assuming the Hot Babe doesn’t either laugh in your face and/or throw you out the first time you pull this creepy shit with her, what we’ve got here is a template for ongoing emotional abuse.
Happily, one enterprising soul has turned the Door Pattern into an ExtraNormal video. I find that the robot voice in the video meshes well with the psychopathic creepiness of the content.
The Door Pattern is not to be confused with the Doors Pattern, in which you get drunk and babble on about Nietzsche and everyone around you tells you you’re a genius.
There’s a video for that one too:
Oh, and here’s a cat singing the theme song to Game of Thrones. For some reason this popped up on YouTube when I was looking for drunk Jim Morrison videos.
I can imagine the door thing leading to a subconscious uneasiness when he points to doors, but it wouldn’t be so much “oh no he’s going to leave me” as “oh god he’s going to go off on that weird monologue about doors again.”
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Tucker Max sounds like the type of guy you just can’t get rid of no matter what you do. You giving up and spending time with him is his victory and a sign of your weakness. I hate people like him.
Sorry, that might be a bit strong but I don’t like them much, I don’t actively wish harm on them just wish they’d go away.
So people, I’m wondering… Was I being the asshole here?
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Let’s just say I have a short fuse with older (+15 years) men contacting me with cryptic messages out of the blue when my profile mentions that I have trust issues due to having been manipulated into sex by older men in the past. (On the one hand I want to be up front with prospective gay or bi men partners, OTOH it seems to act as a magnet for people who figure I may repeat old patterns.)
I don’t think so, BlackBloc. “The heard [sic] of queer sheep” was disgusting. He didn’t improve matters afterward.
Guy was gay but the way he phrases it he comes off as a androphile, which is the gay MRA. As in “we love MEN, not feminized sissies, men lovers have been corrupted by feminism and turned into women, yada yada yada”.
@BlackBloc
Nope. If some guy told me I stood out among all the (something negative) women, I’d call it quits on the conversation right there. You were actually nice enough to explain and he decided to become a bigger asshole. (In my experience, anyone who complains about PC is probably an asshole anyway and there are tons of other red flags.)
I think you were nicer than we are to the trolls here and he doesn’t seem to be of much better quality than most of them.
flitting through… alas the merlot!
@BlackBloc No, he’d have gotten a big, merry fuck off from me much earlier in the conversation. I think you showed admirable restraint and he… used proper punctuation at least, if not capitalization…
@katz Seriously. Now I totally want someone to try this with me so that I can turn to them and say “You totally need to get some help; you have an unhealthy fixation with doors.”
Actually this makes me wonder if I’m unusually harsh with people who approach me in a directly hey baby way. If someone’s very first comment to me (back when I was on dating sites in an active way) was to do with sex and/or my appearance I usually responded with “Bye” and then blocked them – no engagement because no patience. Is that super mean? I just figured that it would be a waste of my time (and theirs, really) to continue.
BlackBloc: You were not the asshole in this situation. You were way nicer than I would have been after HEARD of queer sheep.
HEARD. Jesus fuck.
Shame that guy couldn’t rise above the herd via his use of proper spelling. If he had you might have heard out his request for further contact.
Cassandra – unusually harsh, maybe, but definitely not unduly harsh. Skeeves don’t deserve any better. (“Hey baby” HURL.)
“You were way nicer than I would have been after HEARD of queer sheep.”
My brain keeps trying to read that as “after I heard of queer sheep.”
Hey, at least he didn’t use the word “sheeple”. That word is a classic pretentious asswaffle red flag.
Gods yes.
I suppose telling Mr Blue Collar he couldn’t spell would have been classist!
Not to mention that it’s a FLOCK of sheep, not a herd, let alone a heard.
I know right? His summary said he had “recently come to grip” with his homosexuality. Like, fuck, I’ve got a disease! or something. If he hadn’t been an ass I would have probably passed anyway because I have very little interest in 47 year old men just starting to come out the closet, especially when their identity seems to be wrapped up in toxic masculinity bullshit (I’m into dudes, not queers!). Like, I would have been sympathetic but uninterested. The assholeness just made it worse.
You were not an asshole, you were exceptionally reasonable, screw that guy and his whole bit. Especially the part about how he thought you would be “cool and laid back.”
Sorry you had to deal with a jerkface. You deserve to talk to people as awesome as yourself!
Is it just me or does that kind of read like probably not all the way out of the closet, possibly still married and looking for a little “experiment”?
Also, referring to yourself as a Gen-X’er without being apologetic about it, insta-ban. Maybe in the USA it’s not the same, but around here Gen-X is basically the raunch culture coupled with libertarian/conservative ideas and opposing the social democrat security net because Boomers are old socialists, man! Also, it means you think South Park is hilarious and our equivalent of AM radio nutjobs are on Radio-X, where you can hear non-threatening hard rock all day in-between hate speech about the student movement and unions.
@CassandraSays: Like around 80% of the guys that contact me, and the dudes I slept with when in college. Yeah. I gave enough in the “sad married older men who just want to give young men a blowjob” department.
He thought you’d be “cool and laid back” about being his fun little social experiment/sex toy.
Nope!
In any case the irony here is that on OKC I’m very laid back because I have absolutely nothing to lose. I already have a poly relationship with one woman for the past year and one cute anarchist boy since recently, so I’m really not in the market for giving sex therapy.