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Mike Booth, the guy behind Some Grey Bloke, gave me a great idea for a post (which will be coming soon), so I’m using that as an excuse to post this video of his about the famous Red Pill, which is apparently quite popular outside the manosphere as well as within it. Apparently it comes from an old sci-film from a couple of decades ago called The Matrix?

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Myoo
Myoo
11 years ago

@karalora

The Speed Racer movie is…not brilliant, but very clever and fun. It helps to realize that it’s basically a love letter to the original anime series in all its goofy glory. The movie knows how silly it is…but the characters don’t know they’re in a silly movie, so it manages to walk that fine line between affectionate parody and cynical spoof.

Hm, I never watched the series, so maybe that’s why I didn’t like it?

Marie
11 years ago

@thenatfantastic

You’ve never seen starwars! *gapes* That makes sense I guess, I’m not going to go on a you don’t know what you’re missing, because I feel like part of my love for star wars is noglistalgia. I know I spelled that word wrong but have no idea how to, so I just hope it was clear what it was. I remember when I was 12 I got terribly obsessed with star wars (it was right before revenge of the sith came out) and during the next couple years bought a bunch of star wars books about the clone wars. Sadly I haven’t re read many of them. Though I still do like the knights of the old republic star wars games, if any of you guys game. /rambling, but we hit on star wars. Excited!

My dad and sister are making me go on a bond marathon with them, and now I can pinpoint exactly where the bond movies started sucking (imo) Goldfinger. It was horrible. Dr No and From Russia with Love were both okay, although they had some problems, but Goldfinger had the ridiculous gadgets, ridiculous car, creepy sexaul-assaulty bond, bad plot…god it was terrible. I do like the recent ones though, at least Casino Royale with Daniel Craig, it’s the only one w/ Daniel Craig I’ve seen recently enough to remember.

Haven’t seen Die Hard though.

Let me sum up every Bond movie ever for you. “Hi, I’m a secret agent. So I will drink ridiculously for no reason, sleep with every woman in the film, shoot everybody else. Oh, hey, a bad-guy with a wildly awful and improbable plan! Let us have an exciting and unique action sequence! Okay, are we good? Fine. Now I’ll blow something big up, and then it’s back to women and wine.”

most accurate description ever XD

Maybe I should check out Speed Racer, with what everyone’s got to say. Though I have this hilarious moment where I saw the matrix when I was young and never thought it was supposed to be deep. So for me it’s just still a fun movie. I know that may not be what they meant, but childhood memories, please don’t be ruined!

Some Gal Not Bored at All
Some Gal Not Bored at All
11 years ago

@melody

Titanic is fun enough. It is too long, but I am one of those people who will watch Titanic if it is airing on cable. I don’t think I’ve ever watched the whole thing on cable, but I’ve watched parts of it a lot.

I have seen all the Star Wars movies, all the Die Hard movies, all the Back to the Future…, but the only Bond movie I’ve seen is Casino Royale. (Though in searching for the title of that, the boyfriend realized I haven’t seen Goldeneye and now I think I will be seeing that one. 🙂 )

howardbann1ster
11 years ago

noglistalgia

That sounds like when you’re feeling nostalgia for something that glitters or glistens. Nostlagic for Twilight, maybe?

Some Gal Not Bored at All
Some Gal Not Bored at All
11 years ago

@melody

Argenti is also absolutely right about Titanic.

Marie
11 years ago

@howardbann1ster

*giggles* well, now that someone else has typed it, I shall try again

*nostlagia nostalgia I think it was that second one. I fail at spelling.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Some Gal — you’re missing the full effect if you just watch parts, there are plenty of decent scenes. The whole thing just adds to over the top romantic tragedy. Maybe small doses is the solution? Because I can’t deny that the costuming and set design are amazing.

Howard — noglistaglia for Emilie Autumn’s glittery concerts!

Some Gal Not Bored at All
Some Gal Not Bored at All
11 years ago

@Argenti

I always thought the small doses just countered the length. 🙂 You are probably right though. Of course, I think it would be hard to enjoy the small doses without having seen the whole thing first. (The endings of both the love story and the framing device are too contrived, and I almost never bother with the actual end of the movie.)

I think there is good chemistry between Jack and Rose even though their whole story sucks. So, yeah, loads of great scenes they just don’t add up to a great movie.

howardbann1ster
11 years ago

@Marie: definitely the second one. (definitely is a word that it took me a LONG time to learn to spell)

My brother is dyslexic–all our lives we’ve done the Spelling Thing together. So my first instinct is to make light of it, because that’s how we deal with it.

Marie
11 years ago

@howardbann1ster

normally when I’m typing I rely on spell check, but I spelled it too wrong to get a suggestion the first time XD

Falconer
11 years ago

I’m in the position of having been born the year ANH came out, so I spent the first few years of my life surrounded by Star Wars mania, but too young to really appreciate it myself. I’m left with an intellectual understanding that the franchise is extremely cool, but no emotional attachment to it.

I was about 18 months old when Empire was released, but somehow I worked up the emotional attachment. My mom wishes I hadn’t, and maybe now I do too, sometimes.

I remember when I was 12 I got terribly obsessed with star wars (it was right before revenge of the sith came out)

*quietly fixes tennis balls onto cane feet*

cloudiah
11 years ago

I tried watching The Matrix once but just could not get into it. But Star Wars… I was a kid when the original Star Wars came out, and had an 8-track (I am old) of the complete soundtrack — not just the music, but the dialogue. I used to have whole scenes memorized.

leftwingfox
11 years ago

@howardbann1ster: Don Bluth was the first name in animation which I latched onto. I loved all the strange darker films he did, and the amazing arcade games. He is probably the single individual most responsible for my interest in animation and my subsequent career.

Then I met and worked with some of his former employees. Moral of the story; hero worship is for chumps. 🙁

Secret of NIMH remains an obsession of mine. I’ve dissected and mined that movie for all sorts of lessons and practice in how and how NOT to do an adaptation. His work with Amblin is fantastic, his later work ranges from flawed to unwatchable.

howardbann1ster
11 years ago

Then I met and worked with some of his former employees. Moral of the story; hero worship is for chumps.

Ah, yes, I am familiar with this. Or ‘sometimes great artists are also jerks.’ Or ‘you don’t have to be a decent person to be a great painter.’

Been there.

howardbann1ster
11 years ago

@Falconer:

Tennis balls, eh? Sunday I was doing the Sports Thing, and this one guy goes, hey, you’re not that much older than me, dude.

I go, oh yeah? We compare real quick, and I turn out to be twice his age.

Heh. Whipper-snappers.

(I admit it; I felt great about being mistaken for half my age.)

Freemage
Freemage
11 years ago

Ooh! Movie rants away!

Matrix: Good up until the last five minutes, when suddenly Neo becomes out-of-Matrix Jesus (there’s no reason he should be able to affect the machines without being plugged in). Also, humans-as-Duracels idea is stupid and painful (even ignoring the horrible things it does to the laws of thermodynamics, it also doesn’t explain why the machines don’t just lobotomize everyone at birth); if they’d done humans-as-Pentium chips, it would’ve been much better (ie, human organic brains are actually needed for ‘true’ AI; each machine has a sleeper they’re tied to, and the Matrix is just there to keep the brain active and functioning).

Star Wars Prequels: Panels 2-5 say everything that needs to be said.

Titanic: Hey, Grandma Rose, glad you had such a great life and all. Good thing your grandkids will never want for money or anything, since, y’know, you just tossed an awesome inheritance into the ocean. Not even gonna go on the rant about how she apparently never really cared much for her eventual hubby (seriously, she almost comes across like the fictional women MRAs rant about).

leftwingfox
11 years ago

I thought The Matrix was a pretty clever sci-fi action film with (at the time) unique visuals. It’s also the same opinion I had of Inception; I thought all the mind-bending philosophical blah blah blah hype about it was way overblown, but it was still a fun flick.

Falconer
11 years ago

Never seen Titanic; I just looked it up on Wikipedia and the thing that bugs me is the frame story centers around someone finding the drawing DiCaprio does of his lover in the wreck of the Titanic under two miles of sea water after 84 years.

BAM. Total loss of suspension of disbelief.

Karalora
Karalora
11 years ago

@Myoo

That’s quite likely, about Speed Racer. If you never watched it, you won’t be able to see what the movie did right in terms of recreating that experience.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

I never saw The Matrix – yeah, I know, I’m one of maybe 10 people in the First World who didn’t – but I hate it for convincing so many Internet assholes that they were brilliant philosophers.

*fist bump from another person who’s never seen it*

howardbann1ster
11 years ago

@leftwingfox:

Apparently ANY amount of philosophy, no matter how small, makes an action movie ‘cerebral’? Sounds right.

@Freemage:

It hurts so much because that was the original idea, but the executives felt it was too complicated. One swap-out, and bam! Say goodbye to your thermodynamics!

And out-of-Matrix Jesus Neo clearly just means that he’s been in a Matrix within a Matrix the whole time, playing out a machine’s game to test whether humans will break free or not. That simulation keeps getting corrupted by the fake machines inside, though, because they are driven mad by the idea of being in a simulation within a simulation.

It can’t be interpreted any other way. So clear.

Creative Writing Student

Ugh, I’ve seen The Matrix so many times because it’s a stock filler for Religion & Philosophy classes on the whole perception of reality things – are you a real person or are you a brain in a jar LIVING IN A SIMULATION??? *dun dun dun* – it turned a moderately amusing film into another opportunity to plan out that night’s game of WC3 (story campaign).

I didn’t even like the brain in a jar theory, and I dislike it even more now my perception of reality has gone a bit… off. And Neo reminds me of my creepy French teacher.

On the plus side, I watched A New Hope and made churros and chocolate with my girlfriend this weekend so *squee*

Freemage
Freemage
11 years ago

Howard: My understanding is that was a favorite fan-theory until the sequels came out. (BTW, I did enjoy the Matrix anime-thing–it was fun and kinda goofy.)

Other fan theories that I’m fond of:

1: Bruce Almighty: Morgan Freeman’s character isn’t actually God; he’s a trickster-spirit of some sort (I usually pick the Hebrew dybbuk), conning Jim Carey’s character the entire time. (This explains why he lies so much about the abilities and powers he’s giving to Bruce–at no time does Bruce ever possess omniscience, for instance.)

2: Prior to the last book, there was an ongoing fan-theory that Neville Longbottom was actually the Chosen One, and Harry was simply being used by Dumbledore as bait/distraction for Voldie. I think I woulda liked that one better, almost.

katz
11 years ago

The same with the other ones really, I know the plots (and I’ve spent long enough on the internet that I know all the plot holes too!), so why bother.

Oh, you do, do you? XD

katz
11 years ago

For the record, I don’t care what movies anyone hasn’t seen. Most people seem to have that one (or more than one) movie that, if you confess you haven’t seen it, they’ll go “YOU HAVEN’T? OMG YOU NEED TO WATCH IT!!!!!” and they never seem to realize that everyone else has a different movie that you just have to see and that, seriously, you can’t be expected to see every movie that everyone has ever thought was good.