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Getting their PUAHate on

Early PUAs hold a "boot camp" on a beach.
Early PUAs hold a “boot camp” on a beach.

PUAHAte.com is an … interesting place. A site for debunking the ridiculous claims and shitty behavior of Pickup Artists? Sounds great – at least until you realize that the denizens are mostly dudes who hate PUAs for all the wrong reasons. That is, they hate PUAs not so much for being manipulative scumbags but for being ineffective manipulative scumbags — whose alleged magic formulas for bedding the hot babes don’t really work.

The other day I was introduced to a fledgling Twitter account, @puahate_txt, which reposts hilariously awful comments from PUAhate.com. This inspired me to take another look at the site and do a little poking around for awful quotes on my own. They weren’t hard to find. (It’s harder, really, to find comments that aren’t awful.)

Here’s one charming fellow, who calls himself ToadLookingMaggot, and who holds a grudge against the entire female gender because of a $3 loan gone awry.

After reading ” The manipulated man ” i saw women really for what they where, little selfish Moneysucking vampire Whores.

This rinsing stuff starts in high school if not earlier they try to leech money, food, free rides and basically anything that benefits them in some kind of form. I borrowed a female 3 dollars for meal a meal one time, for months she said that she was going to let me have it and in the end i never got them back.

It doesn’t matter if it’s 2 dollars or 2.000 dollars there freaks never pay you back. Only idiots buy drinks for women.

Men are ruining women because they let them get away with anything. Never in my life will i ever spend money on women unless we pay 5050 on a date.

Uh, obvious question here, but if you hate women, and think that they’re all “Moneysucking vampire Whores,” WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DATE THEM? I’m pretty sure that you’re not going to find many interested in you either, at least not after they get a whiff of your personality.

And that’s your PERSONALITY, not your looks. PUAhaters seem obsessed with the notion that women only date male models, and spend a lot of time bemoaning their own looks – I just quoted a guy who describes himself as a ToadLookingMaggot, after all. Yet whenever they post pictures of themselves they seem to be completely normal, average, not-actually-bad-looking-at-all guys. Guys, your problem isn’t your lack of beauty on the outside. What’s ugly is your attitudes.

Speaking of which, here’s RomanCitizen, a self-described Incel, lamenting that life is sad to all but the “top 10%” of men? Why? Because ladies walk around looking all pretty, yet for some reason they do not allow RomanCitizen to fuck them.

The life of man is a sad one

Excluding the top 10%.

Born into a world of plenty, of abundance, of denial.

See, smell, imagine.

Do not taste, touch, feel.

Like a caged animal in a harem, fed only occasionally fish heads (scraps in the game).

And when the caged animal gets the fish head (scrap), he is happy and rationalizes his pitiful existence, like many men …

But, the cage is still a cage. A fish head – still a fish head.

PROTIP: If you think of the women you don’t find sufficiently desirable as “fish heads,” and walk around in a perpetual boner-rage, you’re probably not going to seem especially charming to the women you do find desirable. Or to anyone else except perhaps the denizens of PUAHate.com. And not all of them, either.

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princessbonbon
11 years ago

Sorry Brz, I am too busy listening to Justice Sotomayor schooling a racist.

Ashley
11 years ago

I wonder what kind of psychiatric battles go on inside the minds of men who claim to hate women, yet still can’t resist the urge to try to date them.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

Yay, Brz! More like this:

I’ve never pretended to be French because pure Frenchness illuminates naturally every word I write. You’re just unable to see it because your Anglo-Saxon features prevent you from recognizing beauty where it stands.

please and fewer impenetrable walls of text.

Binjabreel
Binjabreel
11 years ago

@Brz:

I call bullshit. For one, all the times I was unemployed I recall getting laid more, because I had way damn more free time and spent it out, doing the things I liked, and thus would actually meet actual real people, nearly half of whom turned out to be women!

Maybe it’s because trendy clubs/lounges give me the damn hives (I make more now teaching than I ever have in my life at this point, and I’ll still be damned before I pay more than $5 at the door) but the women I met never seemed to care when I was between jobs. Most of them were more interested in whether or not I was fun to be around, and if you think that the money in my pocket affects that, then you need to seriously re-evaluate your life.

Parks are free. A city of decent size always has free/cheap live music. National monuments are $20 for the entire group and you get in for a week. Most museums just want a donation, give what you can (maybe you’ll impress her with the fact you were willing to donate 1/5th of your budget for the day!) Be damn honest, be fucking upfront, and maybe, just maybe, realize that there’re just as many terrible women out there as there are terrible men, and that it doesn’t mean shit about the rest of us, just the terrible ones.

Sorry to rant, y’all (usually just lurk cause I don’t always feel like I have anything to add that isn’t getting said already) but I fucking despise this, “waah I can’t get laid because I don’t have enough money to buy her dinner!” It’s like the perfect intersection of a lack of creativity and misogynistic stupidity. Get in-n-out and take her to the drive in, for fuck’s sake.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

Welcome, Binjabreel, and rant away! 🙂

cloudiah
11 years ago

Fish heads in photo #6! Caveat: Link goes to NY Times.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

See, Brz can try, but still doesn’t hold up to the sheer MAUVEness of Dragon Slayer’s prose.

Also, dude, I’m gay. Not all men have their self-worths constantly bound up in women noticing them.

kysokisaen
11 years ago

What’s wrong with fish heads? When you take them out to see a movie you don’t have to pay to get them in – doesn’t that make them the perfect date?

drashizu
11 years ago

the only thing that prevent these humiliated PUA followers who dream of being “Alpha males” and wank while watching 300 to turn fascist is tittytainment. porn, video games, the last barriers maintaining civilization in the western world.

Popping out of the Lurk dimension into the comments thread to say: Brz made my day with that one. (Are there three trolls in this thread at once? That’s something that hasn’t happened around here during the time I’ve been reading, although I’ve gathered from the older Manboobzers’ retellings that it was more common in the Troll Heyday.)

Some Gal Not Bored at All

Welcome, drashizu!

drashizu
11 years ago

Welp, I don’t think I lasted very long. This is my, what, 10th post? And the blockquotes monster just cleaned its plate with my last post. Maybe they don’t work on mobile devices?

Trae Dorn
11 years ago

What’s wrong with fish heads? When you take them out to see a movie you don’t have to pay to get them in – doesn’t that make them the perfect date?

But they don’t wear sweaters.

Never trust anyone who can’t wear a sweater…

drashizu
11 years ago

Thanks, Some Gal! 🙂

Brz
Brz
11 years ago

“Of course, I also treat women like PEOPLE (because, y’know, they ARE), which is where I suspect where these guys are ACTUALLY failing.”

What they’re doing is bitching on women, I see a lot of men doing this all the time, especially the ones who don’t get laid.
Treat women like people or not have absolutely nothing to do with success with women : the most misogynist guy I know is a womanizer who thinks women are just stupid dolls easy to manipulate and treat them that way and, well, there’s women who don’t care of being objectified. If they’re happy that way, good for them.

The thing is that in big cities, that’s easy to disappear, to lose sociability. People socialize in big cities by going into bars/clubs/gyms, places you need money to enter. Once you lose the money to enter in these places, once you lose money to pay for having social interactions in a certain way, you lose almost completely the possibility of socializing.
That’s an extreme situation, but I think it will not remain so uncommon in the future.

Concerning these guys, they appear to me like the losers of the sex competition. We’ve extended “the domain of the struggle”, the capitalistic competition to love affairs and, well, like in the economy, there’s few winners and a cohort of losers. They can whine, but they do the same (compare people they want to have sex with like they compare two shampoos in the supermarket). They’re not incel because they’re misogynist, but because of the natural asymmetry of the “sex market”, the fact that a cohort of losers for a few winners is a feature of our society.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

No, Brz. That is the wall of text again. Be funny!

MollyRen (@MollyRen)
11 years ago

I’m really confused by Brz’s strict “losing your job sucks… BECAUSE BONERZ” schtick because usually by the time you’re that deep in the hole, sex is the last thing on your mind. I went through a two-year stint of being more unemployed than not, and it can definitely make you feel isolated… but I was also more worried about, ya know, FOOD than getting laid.

Also what’s this shit about men not being able to get welfare? Men can get food stamps! In MD you can even get emergency money if they’re about to shut your heat off!

khantron
khantron
11 years ago

You know, Brz reminds me of a bartender at the place I work. He was complaining about “womens lib” because women were perfectly willing to have sex with him when he was unemployed, the subtext being that women should have to be reliant on men making a living because otherwise men wouldn’t have ambition and men wouldn’t work. Nevermind that this meant that women would be working and men would still need food and stuff, so it probably wouldn’t lead to the end of civilization even in the ridiculous hypothetical situation.

This seems like the polar opposite of Brz’s sentiment, because it is. My point is that they’re both provincials who don’t see woman as people and as such their models of reality are hopelessly skewed in different ways, since there are an infinite amount of ways to be wrong. That’s why you see MRAs so often being illogical.

Brz
Brz
11 years ago

@Binjabreel

Huh, Thanks for the advice dude, but I don’t need to date since I’ve already, well, found my soul mate.

“but the women I met never seemed to care when I was between jobs”

When I say unemployed, I don’t say between-two-jobs, I mean really with no job, no money and few hope for the future. I mean the guys whom it’s stamped on their front-heads that they’re broke. A lot of people are in this kind of situation in countries of mass unemployment (like France is since the 80’s) and since western countries seem to all go to the direction of mass unemployment, that’s beginning to be a major social reality.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Brz is losing his French again.

MollyRen (@MollyRen)
11 years ago

“When I say unemployed, I don’t say between-two-jobs, I mean really with no job, no money and few hope for the future.”

EVEN WHEN THESE MEN HAVE NOTHING, THEY STILL THINK OF NOTHING BUT THEIR BONERS!

nerdypants
nerdypants
11 years ago

It must really suck to believe that. Because then, even if you do get a partner who seems to love you, you’ll always wonder if she only loves you for your money. You’d always resent her for that.

MollyRen (@MollyRen)
11 years ago

Man, I was doing my stint of grinding poverty all wrong! Instead of learning how to code, applying for food stamps, and trying to improve my social skills, I should have said nasty things about how men wouldn’t bang me.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: Brz

People socialize in big cities by going into bars/clubs/gyms, places you need money to enter.

The hell you say. I’ve lived in big cities most of my life, and I socialize with friends, in groups of like-minded individuals (and comics creators are infamously poor), and I exercise outside.

I mean, I know nobody expects sense out of Brz, but just in case any wandering young reader thinks that poverty means instant social death–no. There are LOTS of poor people. And they want to hang out just like anyone else.

I have a very active, happy social life. If anything, a little TOO active for my taste.

MollyRen (@MollyRen)
11 years ago

@LBT I think, as a poor person who lived in an area with very little public transportation, things were most isolating because I couldn’t afford a car. (Having most of my friends disperse post-college didn’t help either.)

Some Gal Not Bored at All

@LBT

Dating actually originated among the poor in the cities according to Hanne Blank’s Straight. It was the middle and upper classes who adopted it later.