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Getting their PUAHate on

Early PUAs hold a "boot camp" on a beach.
Early PUAs hold a “boot camp” on a beach.

PUAHAte.com is an … interesting place. A site for debunking the ridiculous claims and shitty behavior of Pickup Artists? Sounds great – at least until you realize that the denizens are mostly dudes who hate PUAs for all the wrong reasons. That is, they hate PUAs not so much for being manipulative scumbags but for being ineffective manipulative scumbags — whose alleged magic formulas for bedding the hot babes don’t really work.

The other day I was introduced to a fledgling Twitter account, @puahate_txt, which reposts hilariously awful comments from PUAhate.com. This inspired me to take another look at the site and do a little poking around for awful quotes on my own. They weren’t hard to find. (It’s harder, really, to find comments that aren’t awful.)

Here’s one charming fellow, who calls himself ToadLookingMaggot, and who holds a grudge against the entire female gender because of a $3 loan gone awry.

After reading ” The manipulated man ” i saw women really for what they where, little selfish Moneysucking vampire Whores.

This rinsing stuff starts in high school if not earlier they try to leech money, food, free rides and basically anything that benefits them in some kind of form. I borrowed a female 3 dollars for meal a meal one time, for months she said that she was going to let me have it and in the end i never got them back.

It doesn’t matter if it’s 2 dollars or 2.000 dollars there freaks never pay you back. Only idiots buy drinks for women.

Men are ruining women because they let them get away with anything. Never in my life will i ever spend money on women unless we pay 5050 on a date.

Uh, obvious question here, but if you hate women, and think that they’re all “Moneysucking vampire Whores,” WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DATE THEM? I’m pretty sure that you’re not going to find many interested in you either, at least not after they get a whiff of your personality.

And that’s your PERSONALITY, not your looks. PUAhaters seem obsessed with the notion that women only date male models, and spend a lot of time bemoaning their own looks – I just quoted a guy who describes himself as a ToadLookingMaggot, after all. Yet whenever they post pictures of themselves they seem to be completely normal, average, not-actually-bad-looking-at-all guys. Guys, your problem isn’t your lack of beauty on the outside. What’s ugly is your attitudes.

Speaking of which, here’s RomanCitizen, a self-described Incel, lamenting that life is sad to all but the “top 10%” of men? Why? Because ladies walk around looking all pretty, yet for some reason they do not allow RomanCitizen to fuck them.

The life of man is a sad one

Excluding the top 10%.

Born into a world of plenty, of abundance, of denial.

See, smell, imagine.

Do not taste, touch, feel.

Like a caged animal in a harem, fed only occasionally fish heads (scraps in the game).

And when the caged animal gets the fish head (scrap), he is happy and rationalizes his pitiful existence, like many men …

But, the cage is still a cage. A fish head – still a fish head.

PROTIP: If you think of the women you don’t find sufficiently desirable as “fish heads,” and walk around in a perpetual boner-rage, you’re probably not going to seem especially charming to the women you do find desirable. Or to anyone else except perhaps the denizens of PUAHate.com. And not all of them, either.

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Freemage
Freemage
8 years ago

I’ve always loved a good scum-fight. Someone needs to link this collection of Nice Guys [TM] at a PUA site, and vice-versa, and let them rip on each other.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

Roman Citizen’s rage-poem is cracking me up.

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
8 years ago

1) Fish heads are great. /norwegian

2) You cannot borrow someone something! FFS.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Oh, god, we’ll be invaded by incel whiners.

Moneysucking Vampire Whores is my new band name.

Dvärghundspossen
8 years ago

Actually, Roman Citizen is way more realistic than lots of other MRA types we’ve seen here. At least he doesn’t claim that 10 or 20 % of the men fuck ALL the women, and the rest of the men are incels. He acknowledges that an average guy also can get laid, even if he calls the women who stoops to fuck him “fish heads”.

blitzgal
8 years ago

You LENT a woman $3 that she did not pay back. She’s the one who “borrowed.” Sorry, serious pet peeve of mine. Also, welcome to the human race. My friends and I routinely lend each other a few bucks here and there. And guess what? Because we’re FRIENDS who don’t assign sexual debts to every nickel and dime, we don’t sweat it. It all evens out in the long run.

Gillian
Gillian
8 years ago

Am I the only one who has this going around and around and around in their head now?

I can’t help but picture RomanCitizen sitting at a table in the forest surrounded by fish heads with lipstick and false eyelashes (and it’s an image that may haunt my dreams for a while…)

Maybe it’s a piece of avant-garde performance art? You know, it seems so regressive only because it is so far out in front of… something?

howardbann1ster
8 years ago

Seriously, if a person loaned me three dollars and obsessed about it, I might get annoyed. It’s three dollars, dude, you didn’t loan me a kidney.

jennydevildoll
8 years ago

Am I the only person who just remembered this?

http://youtu.be/cn73Wtem0No

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
8 years ago

@Nepenthe, Cornish also know how to cook fish heads, I give you stargazy pie.

Gillian
Gillian
8 years ago

…nah, it’s just fucked up…

Maude LL
Maude LL
8 years ago

“I borrowed a female 3 dollars for meal a meal one time, for months she said that she was going to let me have it and in the end i never got them back.” (I assume he meant “lent”… However, “borrowed” makes the statement intriguing)

Top this tragic story with my experience with men never paying me back money the thousands of $ they borrowed from me. I’d never thought about it as a representation of all men, but now it all makes sense.

All we need it someone who lent money to intersex people and didn’t get it back and then we can conclude that:

People are shitty sometimes.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

I like to imagine that the $3 were gendered. I have to ignore the rest of the sentence, but that is probably for the best.

Maude LL
Maude LL
8 years ago

@ Some Gal

I bet those 3 dollar bills are riding the alpha $100 bill cock carrousel

Shaenon
8 years ago

Even hot alpha males struggle with this oppression!

(For the record, I’m more of a Sayid girl, because he can kill a man with his feet. But I’m told some ladies find Sawyer easy on the eyes.)

NNY
NNY
8 years ago

Dudes like this make me cringe. Be a damn man, not a spineless whining jellyfish.

“Game” is stupid but these guys take the whole “Let’s be as unattractive to the girls I like and whine about not getting dates” to the damn extreme.

Dude, if you can’t get dates, you are behaving in an unattractive way. Try being more attractive.

TheKoiPolloi
TheKoiPolloi
8 years ago

“I WANT MY [THREE] DOLLARS!”

Anyone else having a Cusack moment…?

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

LOL @ KoiPolloi. I love that movie.

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
8 years ago

I know this is because I’m secretly a twelve year old boy, but do some of those gents look, uh, a bit over-excited about having their picture taken?

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Nepenthe: you mean the ones on the left? Yeah, I’m 12 too.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

@Nepenthe

I think you are right. Especially the second from the left. Although, maybe he just shows his…uh…excitement better.

cloudiah
8 years ago

I just assumed they were tucking their $3 micro-loans into their briefs.

cloudiah
8 years ago

I mean, is that a Moneysucking vampire Whore in your pants, or are you just happy to see me?

Some Gal Not Bored at All

.@cloudiah

They certainly seem happy to see this Moneysucking Vampire Whore. (Cameras do too work that way!)

Hey there fellas!

Freemage
Freemage
8 years ago

Shaenon: I stopped watching that show at the end of the second season, after I realized that the writers were never going to have Kate do something intelligent and rational, ever, and yet Jack and Sawyer were never going to eliminate the middlewoman, if you know what I mean.

(Seriously, the fact that no one ever seemed to figure out that the best option for getting off the island/dealing with the Others/coping with any other situation was “Step 0: Tie Kate up so she can’t get in the way” started to really grate on my nerves.)

starskita
starskita
8 years ago

I thought of this quote from Dr. Horrible’s singalong blog:

Penny: You’re not really interested in the homeless, are you?
Dr. Horrible: No, I am, but… it’s a symptom. You’re treating a symptom while the disease rages on, consumes the human race. The fish rots from the head, so they say. So I’m thinking, why not cut off the head?
Penny: [pause] Of the human race?
Dr. Horrible: It’s not a… perfect metaphor.

Behind the Orange Curtain
Behind the Orange Curtain
8 years ago

Long time lurker, de-lurking to say that some of these tweets are hilariously bad. The guys that brush their teeth every other day and complain because a supermodel won’t get with them must be the worst case of entitlement.

Trae Dorn
8 years ago

I’m told some ladies find Sawyer easy on the eyes

“You think you’re handsome, but you’re not. You’re just an average guy with a big chin”

Trae Dorn
8 years ago

Ugh… messed up a few words in the quote. I feel ashamed.

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
8 years ago

NNY,

Jellyfish don’t whine, lacking a nervous system, vocal cords, and much sensory apparatus. However, like MRAs shit comes out of their mouths.

We can forgive jellyfish because they don’t have anuses. What’s your excuse?

Some Gal Not Bored at All

@Nepenthe

Jellyfish are also pretty on the inside unlike MRAs.

Polliwog
8 years ago

Long time lurker, de-lurking to say that some of these tweets are hilariously bad. The guys that brush their teeth every other day and complain because a supermodel won’t get with them must be the worst case of entitlement.

My hand to god, I once encountered a guy on a web forum I used to frequent who whined for ages on end about how incredibly, horribly demanding women were of their potential partners, and how they all had ludicrously high standards that no man could be expected to meet – and then, in an unrelated thread, said that he brushed his teeth about twice a YEAR because “he didn’t see the point” in doing it more often.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

@Polliwog

That is the most incredible thing that I have ever heard. Hahahaha!

drst
drst
8 years ago

@Shaenon – Sayid all the way. Sawyer was an asshole.

@TheKoiPolloi – the first thing I said when I read the post was “TWO DOLLARS!” 🙂

Behind the Orange Curtain
Behind the Orange Curtain
8 years ago

@polliwog

Maybe that’s how we hunted the Mammoth back in the day, someone who brushes their teeth twice a year could kill a Columbian Mammoth with his breath, maybe not a Steppe Mammoth though. Seriously, I would think that brushing one’s teeth would be the bare minimum for any social interaction, such as a job interview let alone a date.

Shaenon
8 years ago

Shaenon: I stopped watching that show at the end of the second season, after I realized that the writers were never going to have Kate do something intelligent and rational, ever, and yet Jack and Sawyer were never going to eliminate the middlewoman, if you know what I mean.

I love how about every dozen episodes they’d suddenly remember that Kate was supposed to have tracking/survival/thief skills and have her do something, and then they’d forget and she’d screw up and need to be rescued again.

I’m rewatching episodes at random right now, and it’s an endlessly frustrating show, but every once in a while you get something like Sawyer winning a fish biscuit and it’s all worthwhile.

Abnoy
Abnoy
8 years ago

“Dudes like this make me cringe. Be a damn man, not a spineless whining jellyfish.”

Bah, how hypocritically sexist. I thought the feminists were always going on about how men need to get in touch with their “feelings” and that human beings shouldn’t be expected to be beholden to stereotypes, eh?

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
8 years ago

@Some Gal

How do you know? Have you ever looked inside an MRA? *quizzical, slightly frightened face*

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
8 years ago

Re: toothbrushing

I bet it depends on one’s mouth flora. Some people never get cavities, regardless of how poorly they brush, some people get tons of cavities, depending on the type of critters they have. Can’t see why it wouldn’t extend to bad breath (also caused mostly by bacteria).

Brz
Brz
8 years ago

“If you think of the women you don’t find sufficiently desirable as “fish heads,” and walk around in a perpetual boner-rage, you’re probably not going to seem especially charming to the women you do find desirable.”

I assume that this guy is a woman-hater because he can’t get laid and that not being a woman-hater wouldn’t increase his chances to get laid.
I think that that’s the fear of every man, to get to the point of not being unable anymore to get women’s attention.
Virtually, every man can live this, no matter how attractive/intelligent/kind he can be, if he’s unemployed. Once you lose your social status, you lose your ability to convince a woman to share her life with you. Once you don’t have enough money to invite someone in a restaurant/a bar, you no longer able to date. Acknowledging your incapacity to have an intimate relation with a woman is just the final step for acknowledging that you don’t exist anymore for the society (if you’ve reached that point, you’ve already lost the great part of your social life anyway), that you’ve become a ghost and since poverty is a vicious circle (the more you’re poor, the more expensive life gets, the more it’s difficult to get out of poverty and at one moment, you reaches the point of no return), well, you could have reasons to think that you’ll never manage to reintegrate yourself in the society. People usually deal with poverty better than with social exclusion, poverty could be seen as just, well, the vicissitudes of life, but social exclusion can lead to… Raskolnikov stuff.
The case of poor white dudes is particularly interesting : society makes them understand clearly that no matter what their condition is, they are privileged fucks who don’t deserve the help of the society, that since society has been supposedly set up for them, they’re excluded because they failed to adapt, to “man up”. No support, no welfare, no compassion for white hereto dudes, but we’ll police them to prevent them from being racist by complaining that welfare only goes to non-white or to be sexist by trying to pick up in the street creepily, to be sure that while being stuck in a shit hole they don’t be privilege-denying and perpetuate racism and sexism. These guys are ripe for fascism.
That may be sound whiny, but I think it’s important to realize that the only thing that prevent these humiliated PUA followers who dream of being “Alpha males” and wank while watching 300 to turn fascist is tittytainment. porn, video games, the last barriers maintaining civilization in the western world.

blitzgal
8 years ago

Saying you “borrowed someone something” instead of “lent someone something” is suprisingly common. I’m not sure if it’s a regional thing or what. I’ve definitely heard it before, though not in a long time.

I live in southern Wisconsin and I hear it constantly!

blitzgal
8 years ago

Bah, how hypocritically sexist. I thought the feminists were always going on about how men need to get in touch with their “feelings” and that human beings shouldn’t be expected to be beholden to stereotypes, eh?

And if you’d read the rest of the fucking thread you’d see that this person has already been told how inappropriate this comment was.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

Brz: Dudes like this make me cringe. Be a damn man, not a spineless whining jellyfish.

Abnoy: Bah, how hypocritically sexist. I thought the feminists were always going on about how men need to get in touch with their “feelings” and that human beings shouldn’t be expected to be beholden to stereotypes, eh?

Me: Popcorn time!

Some Gal Not Bored at All

Brz is tl;dr, but definitely not French.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Brz has stopped pretending to be French, I see.

Abnoy: if you could read, you’d understand that NNY is another troll just like you.

Wasn’t Abnoy banned for his views on pedophilia?

cloudiah
8 years ago

Ha ha, Abnoy thinks brandon/NNY is a feminist. Hi-Larious.

Trae Dorn
8 years ago

Brz wrote:

Virtually, every man can live this, no matter how attractive/intelligent/kind he can be, if he’s unemployed. Once you lose your social status, you lose your ability to convince a woman to share her life with you.

Yeah, this isn’t remotely true.

I’m happily married and employed now, true – but that wasn’t always the case. When I was younger, I was broke, had no car… but I had no problem getting women to go out with me. And my looks weren’t exactly that great either (I’m fairly average looking).

Of course, I also treat women like PEOPLE (because, y’know, they ARE), which is where I suspect where these guys are ACTUALLY failing.

Brz
Brz
8 years ago

I’ve never pretended to be French because pure Frenchness illuminates naturally every word I write. You’re just unable to see it because your Anglo-Saxon features prevent you from recognizing beauty where it stands.

You should listen more French Pop to familiarize your ears with Frenchness. There’s a new group, yet unknown, which plays Etienne Daho-like songs which are worth to listen.

isabeleve
isabeleve
8 years ago

Wooooo! Fight! Fight! Fight!

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