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Seth MacFarlane was the real boob on Oscar night

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I find the Oscars tedious, and only watched a few minutes last night — I bailed shortly after Captain Kirk made his appearance — but apparently I should have stuck around, if only to watch the insufferable Seth MacFarlane’s award-winning performance as Unfunny Misogynist Asshole Host.

What, you say, he didn’t actually win an award for that? Well, yes he did: Having read a number of accounts of the whole sorry spectacle, I’m awarding MacFarlane the non-coveted Man Boobz Boob of the Day Award (Oscar Edition). In the wake of MacFarlane’s performance at the Oscars, in which he devoted a whole song to actresses’ breasts, I should note that I am using the word “boob” to mean “nincompoop.” Which, to be honest, is an undeservedly mild epithet for a guy who punctuated his comments with repeated jokes about rape.

A few of the highlights of MacFarlane’s night:

That song-and-dance number about how great it is to see so many boobs in films  – including, specifically, in The Accused, and Monster, and Boys Don’t Cry. You know, during the rape scenes in those quie serious films.

MacFarlane’s animatronic teddy bear (from his movie Ted) joking about attending an orgy at Jack Nicholson’s house – you know, the place where Roman Polanski raped a 13-year old girl.

Oh, and then there was MacFarlane joking about how 9-year-old Quvenzhané Wallis would be too old to date George Clooney in about 16 years. (What, is Heartiste writing MacFarlane’s jokes?) And his bizarre domestic violence joke about Chris Brown and Rihanna. And on and on. (See here for many more examples.)

Getting into the spirit of the evening, whoever was doing The Onion’s twitter account decided it would be hilarious to refer to the aforementioned 9-year-old Quvenzhané Wallis as a “cunt.” The Onion later deleted the tweet and offered an apology for it.

Somehow I doubt we’re going to get an apology from MacFarlane.

Here are a couple more takes on the whole unfortunate evening.

Why Seth MacFarlane’s Misogyny Matters (Vulture)

Seth MacFarlane and the Oscars’ Hostile, Ugly, Sexist Night (The New Yorker)

Oscar Watch: Was That Awful or What? (NY Post)

EDITED TO ADD: Oh, joy! The Men’s Rights subreddit weighs in on the issue, in a thread sort-of-responding to that New Yorker piece.

EDITED TO ADD AGAIN: Actually, r/mensrights has two threads on the subject; here’s the other one.

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Some Gal Not Bored at All

Really, I’m less concerned with Seth’s response than with the Academy’s. With any luck, they’ll try to avoid this sort of thing in the future. Seth has already shown what he thinks of critics.

NNY
NNY
8 years ago

So he might not be the host of the Academy Awards again. I doubt he cares. He still has 3 major TV shows and just made a movie. How will he survive and have a way to voice his opinion?

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

So, Brandon, that said, why do YOU care if we complain? Other than that you hate when straight white guys are brought up short for asshole behavior.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

So he can voice his opinion, but we can’t voice ours, because he wouldn’t care? I don’t give a fuck if he cares or not.

NNY
NNY
8 years ago

hellkell, does he know you exist?

melody
8 years ago

I think all the trolls here and on other sites I visit are burning me out.
Or maybe I’m suffering from the high burn out rate from my job.
Just can’t right now.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

So because he doesn’t know we exist, our opinions are invalid? That is one of the dumbest of many dumb things you’ve said.

BrandonWorld is a strange fucking place.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

You just said it isn’t his opinion, he was talking shit. Make up your mind.

If this lameass bloke is so rich and powerful and blah blah blah, why do you feel the need to sneak back to this site and tell us how nasty we are for criticising him? You don’t seriously think we expect him to read our words, do you? What’s it to you, either way? How does this affect the all-important World of Brandon?

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Brandon cannot stand it when a man is being criticized for sexist behavior.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

So are sockpuppets not being re-banned any more? It’s not as if NNY is even trying to deny that he’s Brandon.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

melody, internet hugs!

Have some Golden Retriver puppies.

http://youtu.be/QZv70PG9eXM

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

I’d like to know how shitty you have to be at IT when it takes you the better part of a year to figure out how to cloak your IP.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

That thought occurred to me too, hellkell.

drst
drst
8 years ago

Boring troll still being boring, I see.

If there are any Avengers fans lurking, you gotta check this out. There’s a thing on Tumblr where people are taking Jack Frost, Merida, Rapunzel and Hiccup and putting together gifs of them with Avengers quotes. “Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons” (yes, it needs a catchier name, but wev.)

http://pandreaa.tumblr.com/post/43833149472/the-big-four-as-the-avengers-kind-of

http://pandreaa.tumblr.com/post/43848194238/the-big-four-as-the-avengers-kind-of

I need to watch “Rise of the Guardians” now.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

The Avengers will always be these two for me … 🙂

pecunium
8 years ago

Brandon: pecunium, There were plenty of people that found what he said funny or shocking.

That they are morally suspect, at best, is also true. Just because shitty people laughed doesn’t mean the jokes are worthwhile.

Lots of people approve of things which are wrong. The South thought so strongly enough to fight a war about one of them; as Seth was aware when he did the show last night.

My only “case” is that I find it funny that a bunch of people telling Seth what a shitty person he is and I bet his only response is “Oh well, can’t make everyone happy” or “Then don’t watch me or my shows”.

Got it. He does things which are actually offensive, which are bemeaning, and even degrading, and you think it’s funny people call him on it.

And you say it’s not because he did anything wrong, but because “haters gonna hate”. You, personally, dismiss them, out of hand, because… oh right, you don’t see anything wrong in degrading people, discounting their work, mocking their acheivements and generally kicking the underdog.

Hellkell, No. I don’t think Seth gives one rats ass about you, me or this site. He is going to do what he wants and no amount of you complaining is going to stop him.

Ah… we see the value you place on him. He is the walking embodiment of the Brandon Philosophy of Life: Fuck You Jack, I Got Mine.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I know how to hide my IP, ffs, and my involvement in IT never went beyond sales.

Could be that Brandon’s IT career is as imaginary as Ashley was.

pecunium
8 years ago

BTW: this is a reminder to the SF area boobzers that I’ll be in the bay for about a week, starting the day after tomorrow.

Shiraz
Shiraz
8 years ago

Wait, are we sure Brandon/NNY isn’t really Seth’s mother? Just read his posts (in which he argues Seth is the best thing ever) in Betty White’s voice then get back to me.

NNY
NNY
8 years ago

And why should I defend that I am not this so called Brandon? I know I am not, so why should I care if you think otherwise?

Shiraz, Anything in Betty White’s voice would kick ass.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

I’m just ignoring the stupid, but last page cloudiah suggested David put an HTML guide up, and that maybe I could write it? If he wants to post one, I’d be happy to write one up.

Pecunium — I directed a torture question at you on twitter, but idk if 140 characters is going to work.

Everyone else — that question was about this — http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/02/ending-forced-genital-normalizing-surgeries/273300/ — and whether forced gender “normalizing” surgery amounts to torture.

I’d say I don’t want to derail with that conversation, but fuck if it isn’t more interesting than the current crop of trolls.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Anyone else who’s not Brandon still around? Because he’s much too boring to talk to for any length of time.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Ok, I can’t ignore that!

“It’s so called Brandon”

Cuz it’s totally suspect that there was once a guy posting here under the nym of Brandon! Guys, guys! Are you lying about Brandon’s nym?!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Derail away!

I don’t know that I’d say it’s torture because torture has a more specific definition, but I would say that it’s unethical and that I don’t see any reason why any operation that is going to be done can’t wait till the kid is old enough to have some say in things.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Right, it’s just a coincidence that you have the same hobbyhorses–women having standards and men being criticized–and the same shitlord posting styles. Of course.

cloudiah
8 years ago

Hey Cassandra, I’m back. Made tacos. Pretty good. Should we talk about something more interesting than Brandon, like ear wax or mold?

NNY
NNY
8 years ago

So it is impossible for 2 people to have the same opinion on 2 separate topics? Crap that makes me every other person in the world.

But just for the sake of amusement (because I doubt it will change your mind). What would it take for you to think I wasn’t Brandon?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

@ hellkell

It’s a good thing that he didn’t choose acting as a career, huh?

@ cloudiah

Sure! I’m going to make a stir fry with chicken and kabocha once I catch up on my email. Also could use some advice on hair color if anyone else has hair that’s as delicate and easily damaged as mine. I found this new type of dye called INOA, trying to figure out if it’s worth doing. Normally I to to a place that uses very high end organic dyes, but I need to get my hair dyed ASAP for an event.

cloudiah
8 years ago

Argenti, genital “normalizing” surgery? What a horrible concept. What’s normal?

And I see that circumcision has taken over the comments… Not that it isn’t an important discussion, but they don’t have to make EVERY discussion about that. Like, go start your own discussion already.

cloudiah
8 years ago

I can’t help you on the hair dye front, since as we’ve established I trust my hair to Supercuts. (Le Supercuts, I call them.) 😉

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Also, has anyone ever had an ombre effect done on their hair? I’m curious about how it looks during the grow-out period and if it fades nicely or not.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Cassandra: yeah, acting’s not his forte. Neither is understanding the difference between “opinion” and “style.” Jesus.

Dunno what to tell you about the dye, my hair can take a ridiculous amount of dye abuse before I have to cut it all off.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

I did have ombre, and it faded quite nicely, since it already kind of looks like it’s growing out.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

My issue with dye is that I can’t use bleach at all, so only the really good dyes can take it a few shades lighter, and I need a pro to do it for me. I guess I could just dye it black, but I’m thinking that’s not very summery.

cloudiah
8 years ago

Speaking of acting (good segue, eh?), a friend of mine totally photobombed Emmanuelle Riva at the Oscars. XD

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Did you have bright colors like purple, red, etc, or more traditional colors? I’m thinking that since I have to dye my hair to cover the silver now anyway I may start to do more punky colors again soon.

cloudiah
8 years ago

Ombre hair sounds supercool.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

I did ombre with red and browns. I’m thinking of going back to pink or nuclear red streaks because of the silver invasion. I miss my blonde hair.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I’m thinking that depending on the work situation a few months from now I may go back to the wine color that I used to have, or black with wine highlights.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

I skipped the comments, I’ll go read them now. As for “normal” it’s a supposedly polite way of saying that intersex genitalia are not normal and need to be surgically turned into something “normal” — whether than means male or female is, afaik, done on a case by case basis.

And I’m leaning towards “cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment” but not torture. I’m also really miffed that the article brings up how calling it such might backfire and entrench the opinions of doctors and parents who feel it necessary (to preform surgery on the genitals of an infant for no reason other than “you aren’t normal dear”)

Just to make this more “interesting” — those surgeries tend to put appearance over sexual functioning. Can’t orgasm? Oh well, at least your dangly bits fit into one of the two “normal” boxes.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

“These surgeries that she’s naming are minor and in my personal view don’t even qualify as abuse”

*hulk smash* when half~ the related surgeries have “loss of sensation” as a risk, that isn’t fucking minor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex_surgery

katz
8 years ago

Yeah, “torture” seems a bit much, and I wouldn’t want to weaken the definition of torture by broadening it overly. But unethical and degrading treatment, certainly.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

The idea that loss of sensation isn’t a big issue seems to be fairly common among surgeons, which has always irked me. You see it a lot in discussions about breast implants too.

Since I’m of the no kids thanks tribe I tend to see “able to produce pleasant sensations” as what genitals are for, so the idea that sensation is less important than appearance baffles me.

pecunium
8 years ago

What I said in the tweet (since not everyone here follows my twitter) Abuse? Yes. Morally repugnant? Yes. Torture? No.

I have a pretty broad, but specific definition of torture, and part of that is that it’s a crime of intent. That this is horrific in its effects, and that those effects can be painful, for life, doesn’t change that the purpose isn’t to inflict pain, for the benefit of the person inflicting the pain.

So, for all I think them misguided, wrong and all the rest, it’s not torture.

pecunium
8 years ago
Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

I’m with Cassandra, pleasant feelings are all my genitals are for (that and the occasional “remind me why I have you?” complaints). And even appearance, that’s not exactly relevant until puberty, and the kid is able to express an opinion, if not consent, by then. Which just leaves surgeries to correct actual functional issues (eg urinary tract issues) — and those aren’t really “normalizing” any more than correcting, say, an imperforate vagina would be.

Pecunium — maybe I’m just reading you wrong, but I’m wary of limiting torture to cases where the intent’s to inflict pain for the pleasure of the torturer, ie sadism. I must be reading you wrong though, since I can’t imagine you excluding torture that’s ostensibly justified by a “need for information” (eg the ticking time bomb and I saw that string of tweets cross your timeline and ARGH)

Misandry emergency! That made my day, don’t know why I didn’t think to link it here, thanks for doing that!

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

End tags, they help >.<

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Re: definitions — I’m about halfway through the actual UN report, but this stands out as relevant “Medical care that causes severe suffering for no justifiable reason can be considered cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, and if there is State involvement and specific intent, it is torture.”

Also, I want the recent posts widget back, where did it go?!

pecunium
8 years ago

Argenti: Benefit, not pleasure. The “ticking bomb” is the classic case of the, “I don’t enjoy this, but it has to be done” rationale to, “justify” torture. I’ve spent a lot of the past 10 years talking about torture, and what’s wrong with it (on the moral, and the practical levels). It was an invitation to speak on the subject which has me staying as long in The Bay as I am (though motorcycling to Santa Cruz/Monterey is a strong temptation, and I am glad of the excuse to visit).

I care enough about it that this time I am forgoing the usual remuneration (I usually ask for at least my travel costs covered, and the fedora I’m most fond of wearing was a thank you). But this is the third, or fourth, cross country trip I’ve made to take part in a discussion/seminar/teach in, on the subject.

With the local events (ignoring the invitations to guest blog), it’s probably been about a dozen events I’ve spoken at (on this subject).

pecunium
8 years ago

I wonder what the, “specific intent” clause covers. I suspect it’s a term of art.