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Should men be allowed to vote?

alicemiller1915

Mocking misogyny: It’s not just for the present day. Here, from 1915, a pointed parody of misogynistic anti-Suffrage arguments by writer/poet Alice Duer Miller. (Note to extremely literal-minded MRAs: She was not actually advocating that men have the vote taken away from them. Nor are we.)

You can find many more examples of Miller’s sharp wit in her 1915 collection Are Women People? The whole thing is available online and in various ebook formats on Project Gutenberg.

Graphic via Roqayah Chamseddine (@iRevolt on Twitter).

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emilygoddess
emilygoddess
11 years ago

Its such a thin veneer. You acting out the way you do isn’t because of me. Its you projecting you.

Something happened that made you an angry little person.

Man, even your condescending sexism isn’t novel or interesting. You’d think someone so convinced of his intelligence and insight would occasionally bring something original to the table.

You’re like the poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Diogenes The Cynic
Diogenes The Cynic
11 years ago

I’m comfortable with myself. Maybe a person with self-esteem issues sees that as arrogance. Its just comfort. Being self-assured shouldn’t be mistaken for arrogance.

Lack of respect for others? lol
Dismissal of women? Seriously, what? Did you parrot someone else in saying that?

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Vile bile? Steelpole, is that you?

Diogenes The Cynic
Diogenes The Cynic
11 years ago

emily,

Why read condescending sexism into that phrase when condensation itself would suffice? Occams razor.

My my, it looks like someone learned how to use wikipedia to learn new phrases, but didn’t learn how to apply them. If anything, people here seem to think they’re in Lake Woebgone (where everyone is above average).

pecunium
11 years ago

Naïf: I have no idea if you are comfortable with yourself. That’s a personal issue, and not one which can be determined on the internet. Anyone who says they don’t need to look things up…that’s not being confident, that’s being overconfident, to the point of arrogance.

That you can’t see this, is the lack of both self-awareness, and lack of self-respect, which makes you so naive as to think it’s not your overt stupidity, disdain for women (and, no, it’s not parroting, it’s watching the difference in your treatment of those whom you think to be male, vs. those you think to be women, as well as your declamation on the subjects discussed in this blog).

As to others… you have been told, with vigor, that you aren’t welcome. You come to the table, again, with nothing more to offer the discussion than simple declarations you can’t support (viz the question of disdain Argenti thinks she might have gotten; you can’t know, and there are orthodox communities who express great disdain for people they think ought to be living to some standard: so you are either obtuse, or disingenuous), and banal insults.

If (a big if) you were clever in your attempts to lash out, if there was some hint of wit, you would be tolerable; despite the faults being discussed. Sadly, you aren’t. So what you are is dull, and irritating, as a small bit of hard bread crust inside one’s sock.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

What the fuck are you on about, you nasty little shit? Add Occam’s Razor to list of things you know fuckall about. But please, keep talking about condensation, you fool.

Seriously, take your butthurt elseweb, if they’ll have you.

howardbann1ster
11 years ago

Why read condescending sexism into that phrase when condensation itself would suffice? Occams razor.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Oh, god, it’s so good… let me try one!

Diogenes, why read UNENDING SCORN in my comments to you? Rain would totally explain it instead.

Q.E.D.Z.

cloudiah
11 years ago

And the mask slips, as we knew it would…

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Shorter meltdown time than usual.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

Condensation?

But yeah, the barber was full of crap. It’s not like I have a bizarre skull. But yeah, took up cutting my own hair; I have neurosis about it as is, and putting up with a barber who obviously didn’t want my business wasn’t worth the effort. Nowadays, I don’t have that problem, and can enjoy a proper haircut in peace and comfort.

RE: Cloudiah

Yeah, I always categorized in my mind: jeans = made of denim, slacks = not made of denim, nice enough to wear to work. It was a pretty common term of use where I was from, at least. What do they call those kinds of pants where you’re from?

pecunium
11 years ago

My my, it looks like someone learned how to use wikipedia to learn new phrases, but didn’t learn how to apply them. If anything, people here seem to think they’re in Lake Woebgone (where everyone is above average).

And we have stats fail. If this were a non-selective grouping, you’d have a better chance of this barb being on point.

But it’s not. This is a selective subset. One in which the criteria for becoming a member of the community (as opposed to a person like yourself, or Mr Varpole Butthorn SteeAle) is a sense of decorum, wit, and yes, and brains.

Does that mean everyone here is, “above average”? No. Does it mean the average here is higher than the mean? Probably. Keeping up with the subjects which are covered requires mental agility, because it’s wide ranging, and wants some understanding of stats, history, cooking, social sciences, feminism, literature, spinning, knitting, embroidery; it drifts to language (with lots of wordplay), anthropology, post-apocalyptic survival, booze, fashion, music, politics, economics and general snark.

I know I’ve not touched half of what gets discussed. I know I am not stupid. I know that I am frequently presented with new data, new information, new ways of looking at things I’d thought I was familiar with.

So yeah, I’d say the run of people here is above average (some notable exceptions being present at the moment).

kiki
kiki
11 years ago

If you take Cher out for Mexican food, she’ll insist on having Oaxacan in Memphis. This may seem a little high-maintenance, but you have to go a lot further to impress Sting.

Diogenes, remember, if someone calls you arrogant, you should only consider your own idea of ‘arrogant’ as valid, to the exclusion of all others. That’s how you know you’re not arrogant!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

I guess he was already having a bad day before he got here. We should really start charging him for our bitchy domme services.

katz
11 years ago

I also notice he’s using the last four characters of one’s handle as a last name. Wasn’t it Steele who did that?

cloudiah
11 years ago

LBT, I just call non-jeans pants. Alternately, “nice pants.”

Amused
11 years ago

He said something recently about violence against women not being a thing because in his whole life he’d never seen a woman out in public with even a hair out of place. SCIENCE!

One year a couple of days before Christmas, I was waiting in line for the register at a Brookstone’s when I saw a young Russian couple, in which the man was berating the woman in the most horrific terms. She was searching for her wallet in her handbag with shaking hands, and he was fuming about all the “useless ****” in her handbag. Specifically, he was telling her in great detail (in Russian, of course) how he was going to beat her once they are back home.

“You disgust me,” he said, jaw clenched, “I’m gonna fucking execute you. Do you hear? I. Will. Kill you. Fucking bitch, I’m gonna pound your face on the floor until it’s mush.”

Every time she would timidly ask him a question, he would explode:

“What?? Are you fucking retarded? How do you even live?”

At last, she found her wallet, and took out her credit card. I guess it was the wrong credit card or something, because just as she was handing it to the cashier, the guy snatched it, and swung at his wife as if he was about to punch her. She shrank away from him, but kept her arms down, which struck me as counter-intuitive. I’m guessing she had been pummeled quite a few times for raising her arms to shield her face.

Incidentally, she seemed to be missing quite a bit of hair. But whatever was left of it, all of it was in the right place.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Katz: yeah, Steele did that too. But so does Preggo Punchout, so who knows.

My bitch domme services are 200 an hour. Pay up, son.

cloudiah
11 years ago

kiki, Good one. XD

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Normally I’d charge $250, but boring subs have to pay extra.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
11 years ago

Why read condescending sexism into that phrase when condensation itself would suffice? Occams razor.

Because I guarantee you wouldn’t be telling a male poster he was just bitter and didn’t know what he was really upset about. Because attaching a woman’s emotional state instead of her argument is an ancient form of sexism.

Also, lol @ “condensation”.

My my, it looks like someone learned how to use wikipedia to learn new phrases, but didn’t learn how to apply them.

Dude, have you seen some of your posts here?

Do you mean the Dunning-Kruger thing? You’re a blithering idiot who thinks he’s a fucking genius; even if you don’t agree with the allegation, I’m pretty sure it’s a correct application of the concept.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
11 years ago

OTOH, he’s calling people by the second halves of their names, and he dropped a “vile” in there…

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

I have a longstanding theory that all of our boomerang trolls are the one, really obsessed guy.

thebewilderness
11 years ago

Dunning-Kruger always comes to mind when DtC comments.

melody
melody
11 years ago

Oh, my goodness.
I hate when trolls take up time.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

Mwahahaha! My handle is only three letters, so I have no last name! I am merely an acronym for a delicious sandwich!

RE: CassandraSays

If only. It’d be less of a pain that way if all the Emmas and the Driversuzs and the Als of the world were, in actually, all NWOslave surrounded by a bank of different computers.

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