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Should men be allowed to vote?

alicemiller1915

Mocking misogyny: It’s not just for the present day. Here, from 1915, a pointed parody of misogynistic anti-Suffrage arguments by writer/poet Alice Duer Miller. (Note to extremely literal-minded MRAs: She was not actually advocating that men have the vote taken away from them. Nor are we.)

You can find many more examples of Miller’s sharp wit in her 1915 collection Are Women People? The whole thing is available online and in various ebook formats on Project Gutenberg.

Graphic via Roqayah Chamseddine (@iRevolt on Twitter).

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hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Of course Diogenes the Dim thinks all opinions are valid. It’s all he’s got.

Unfortunately, all of his opinions are stunning unoriginal and not worth airing.

Diogenes The Cynic
Diogenes The Cynic
11 years ago

“Oh, god, is this the same Diogenes who got banned from the Straight Dope?”

-Random6x7

No. Thats a different Diogenes. I mostly post on fark, and the ftl bbs.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Cassandra: Assuming facts not in evidence is a lifestyle for this kid.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

So, anyway, bored with him already. What’s everyone up to this weekend?

pillow in hell
pillow in hell
11 years ago

There were white people in apartheid Africa who weren’t bitter about apartheid?

I wonder why that was? Could it be because every single social institution was set to advantage them over the black people who’s home it was?

Naahhh!

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

I need to clean out my closet and start a Goodwill bag, and the refrigerator/freezer needs a good cleaning. I also have to find a birthday present for my mom.

How’s that for a wild time?

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

What are you doing, Cassandra?

titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

And according to his Dullness, if the white South Africans he knows weren’t bitter about apartheid, then no white South Africans were concerned about the effect it had on non-whites. And so no one has ever complained about injustices faced by other people. Not ever ever ever. /fallacy

My Mum’s coming round for lunch tomorrow, we shall drink wine & watch Bollywood dvds.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

I have an interview to do on Sunday, dinner with Mr C (not sure where we’re going yet), and if it gets warmer I might finally be able to go ride my bike.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

What kind of band are you interviewing?

It’s been rainy and drizzly here today, I love it. Probaby because I know it won’t last six months like it did in Seattle.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Will email you.

It’s really wierd here right now, bright and sunny but about 50 degrees. Every time you look out the window and think that a walk would be nice it’s a trap.

Diogenes The Cynic
Diogenes The Cynic
11 years ago

s with his 1.Same thing with attractive women. My attractive friends don’t complain about how being pretty gets them further along in life (admit it, it does)
Nice try, but I don’t admit it. Tell you what, as you’ve made this affirmative statement, prove it, or accept that you are wrong.

2.Depends on what they complain of. Let’s look at your, “rich people are happy with things” idea. Warren Buffet. Bill Gates. Both of them (and Gates was born to well off parents. Yeah, he dropped out, but that was because he had a father willing to bankroll a hundred large in launching a company).
They are complaining about the way things are, and saying they ought to be different.

3.The Republican Party is complaining that they aren’t allowed to marginalise people. They are working to suppress the vote to make it possible for them to keep marginalising others.

4.Yeah, and who’s the one complaining about it? What drives a person to complain about something like that unless its a raw issue for them?

What is raw about it? Oh right, that juries treat them unfairly. That people discriminate against them. That shitheads like you insult people they don’t know with weight, as if that were some measure of moral worth, or personal merit.

5.The fuck you know about it. I get the flipside all right. I get told I don’t weigh enough. That I lack the manly physique. It’s not as pervasive, but having to cheat to get into the Army because I was below the minimum weight required does give one a certain sense of being discriminated against.

6.If you are able to come up with criteria, you probably have reasons for your beliefs. If you can’t, it probably means you hold your positions from a deeply emotive place, and not a logical one.

False dilemma, and a primary geek fallacy. Logic and emotion aren’t inseparable. One can have both. Pretending to an, “above emotions, all I do is look at the facts” is the geek fallacy. It’s bullshit.

1.See above where pillow in hell posts.
2.When Tolstoy thought “the system” was unfair, he changed himself. Began working the fields with his tenants. You seem to have missed the point entirely. Those 2 still wouldn’t trade wealth for poverty because they know they have it better.
3.Republicans, what? How did they get in here.
4.So, you agree with me?
5.My heart bleeds cold borscht for you.
6.Funny in how trying to show that my statement contains a logical fallacy, you commit one yourself. Emotion alone cannot be used as an argument. Thats called the pathetic fallacy.

cloudiah
11 years ago

It hailed here today! We normally don’t experience this phenomenon you know as “weather” so it sent us into a tizzy.

My wild weekend plans involve taking my depressed friend out for brunch (since that got canceled last weekend-from-hell) and doing a bunch of non-required reading. I should clean out the refrigerator too; something terribly sticky spilled in there. I can’t even figure out what it was. (But I blame the patriarchy, of course.)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

BTW I just found this old commercial for some really ugly jeans that symbolizes what it’s like to have Diogenes verbally wanking at you.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

@ cloudiah

That reminds me of the one time (in 6 years) that it rained while we were in Saudi. Everyone went out and played in it because wtf, water can just fall from the sky?

titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

Diogenes, go away and only come back when you can write a coherent comment.

We’re threatened with rain and sleet all weekend. Hence the dvd plans. I am test-driving a little petrol-driven cultivator on Sunday to see if I want it for the allotment. Ah, the excitement!

cloudiah
11 years ago

Those jeans are terrible, and I kind of want a pair.

hippodameia8527
hippodameia8527
11 years ago

Tomorrow I have dinner with some family members, and then my father’s persuaded me to watch “Das Boot (The Director’s Cut.)” Should be fun. Sunday is dogwalking and laundry.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

cloudiah: I don’t know how the freezer got so grody, but I’m sure the patriarchy had a hand in it. Maybe it’s bitter.

Is that mosquito still buzzing around here? I hear this high pitched whining.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Am I weird that test-driving a little petrol-driven cultivator sounds fun? (Don’t answer that question. I already know that I’m weird.)

Das Boot was the movie that reminded me that I have claustrophobia issues and should never watch movies that involve submarines, or people trapped in caves.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Those jeans! They scared Biscuit, who was transfixed for a minute, then went tear-assing around.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Das Boot was the movie that reminded me that I have claustrophobia issues and should never watch movies that involve submarines, or people trapped in caves.

This is why The Descent is so scary. Claustrophobia and scary monsters that want to chew on your leg.

hippodameia8527
hippodameia8527
11 years ago

I’m worried that it will make me feel claustrophobic, but he really wants to share it with me. He’s reading a new book about submarines and it’s got him all fired up.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

@Diogenes

I’m not some kind of friendless troglodyte.

These are my close friends.

Oh, I wasn’t disputing that they are your close friends. I was disputing that you are their close friend. You aren’t really qualified to comment on that.