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Betty Friedan: Communist homewrecker?

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Last week marked the 50th anniversary of the publication of Betty Friedan’s The Feminine Mystique, which inspired a flood of commemorative essays everywhere from Slate to the New York Times.

It also inspired what I think is one of the most hilariously dumb sentences I’ve ever read on The Spearhead. In a post talking about Friedan’s “youthful Bolshevik activism” – she spent a number of years as a labor journalist – Spearhead head boy W.F. Price offers this assessment of the book that jumpstarted feminism’s second wave:

Although I haven’t read the book, it apparently stresses the need for women to engage in work outside the home, which is a basic Communist tenet.

Yeah, that’s why most women work. Not to pay the bills, but because they are pawns of the worldwide communist conspiracy.

Weirdly, Price is well aware that he’s full of shit here, and that most women throughout history have worked, not because of Communism but because of economic necessity. Indeed, he even points this out in his post. But he follows this acknowledgement with more thoughts on Friedan’s evil commie ways:

[I]t looks as though Betty Friedan was one of the many dedicated Communists who caused so many problems immediately after WWII. I once looked up a list of known Communist front groups in the US, and noticed that quite a few of them were women’s groups. Combined with accounts I’ve read from former Cheka agents, it makes for pretty convincing evidence that feminism was deliberately fostered in the US by Soviet agents. It makes sense to use women in that manner, because authorities are not as suspicious of women, and they can operate under the radar far more easily than men. Women also make excellent spies.

Although I’m sure resurgent feminism would have emerged in one form or another with or without Betty Friedan, it is interesting to note second wave feminism’s Cold War origins in Marxist infiltration of US society. …

It turns out she was little more than a loyal Bolshevik pawn who suddenly stumbled onto success by writing a thinly-veiled Marxist critique of American capitalist society from a woman’s perspective.

In the comments, TheTruthishere enthusiastically agreed with Price’s feminism-was-a-Soviet-plot thesis:

You are right a read the same thing on another site …  feminism was thought up in a russian thinktank to basically destroy the family as the states smallest cell. Basically so communism could be introduced in the western world. Well, it worked, it just took them longer than expected. By the way the Rockafellas are involved in this as well

RockEfellers. Not RockAfellAs. Or even RockAfellERs.

Uncle Elmer gave us this weird socio-sexual fantasy:

Speaking of Freudian, all feminists have a major clit-boner for “1963”, though it was not technically part of the mythic “50s”. Based on their persistent mention of that era, it’s clear they would gladly trade in their Birkenstocks for a chance to be slapped and rogured by Ward Cleaver.

They didn’t call him “The Cleaver” for nothing.

And Towgunner, for some odd reason, used the opportunity to express his disdain for “female” – in quotes – music composers.

I have a lot of classical music as my pandora stations, Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Debussy, etc. So, guess what gets inter-mixed with the play sets from time to time…yep, the token “female” composer. I’m usually doing something else while listening and this never fails – I always know its a female composer because it, well, is bad music. Also, all of the female composers I’ve heard basically sound the same. All things aside, forget I’m an MRA, it has very little aesthetic value for anyone, except for those who think talent is the same thing as “social justice”. female composers create music that is akin to cold coffee left over from breakfast and now its 2:00 PM. And its not after a few minutes, I can tell a female composer in the first few seconds…that too never fails. Many of them painfully subject their listeners to simple scales and scattered and disagreeable harmonies…kind of like the background music for greys autonomy or any chick flick. Above all, it’s not, even in the slightest, original…frankly female composers are a perfect case study in that you can hear the innate female tendency towards conformity.

By the way, here are some songs by female composers – sorry, “female” composers. I’m not sensing a lot of conformity here.

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BlackBloc (@XBlackBlocX)

>>>Could you envision a male Paris Hilton? Right.

http://www.mtv.com/onair/jersey_shore/photos/cast/mike_0644.jpg

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

Actually Paris is smarter. Which of those two has made more money off of their ridiculous persona?

Jessay (@jessay)
7 years ago

Of course he didn’t read it. If MRAs held themselves up to the standards of having to research things before stating things as facts they’d never have any blog content!

@blackblock, I can’t help but laugh when I read, “I’m a Canadian anarcho-communist,” Because I’ve been watching the Canadian show from my teens Edgemont and one of the main characters laughably tries out communism and anarchy before finally settling on environmentalism (I’m not sure if he’ll have another shift, I’m not done with the series). So I’m just picturing you as that character right now.

drst
drst
7 years ago

@Kittehs – I don’t know about pecunium but I’ve been using a trackball of this type for over a decade and I LOVE it:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/H6714VC/A?afid=p219|GOUS&cid=AOS-US-KWG-PLA

Your thumb handles all of the movement and your fingers can just rest on the right and left mouse buttons. Coupled with a mousepad with a wristrest I’ve had no trouble with my carpal tunnel in years. (I have had trouble when I’m typing excessively but that’s not connected, obvs.) It can take a little getting used to, but it’s always fun to see someone else sit down at your computer and get all freaked out by it! 😉

pecunium
7 years ago

Kittehs: Sort of. trackball mouse

It has four buttons, which can be programmed. I have them set up to be left/right, and forward/back. The ball is large, which means it’s possible to make very small movements; and the wrist doesn’t need to be involved. It also be reversed for left-handed use.

With really regular use (esp. if one is playing a game, or doing things which require going back to the same part of the screen regularly), there can be some strain to the knuckles; but I find it takes a lot longer than with a standard mouse.

pecunium
7 years ago

Cassandra: Actually Paris is smarter. Which of those two has made more money off of their ridiculous persona?

On what scale? Paris was already ungodly rich, so for her to have the time to promote herself, etc; as well as the ability to lose money and not care, I’d say he’s managed to get more, all in all.

Doesn’t make him smarter, just means that Hilton started on third, so making money for her takes a lot less work.

which sort of touches on the comment aboutt the line in Lucifer’s Hammer about feminism.

I know both the authors. That line is almost pure Jerry, but I think (strongly) that the fortune of Larry’s birth is why he let it stay. Larry was born rich. He knows it, but he’s still got some significant blind spots as a result. When he turned 21, he got his disbursment from the family trust. It was about 1964, and he got $1,000,000. He dropped out of school and took to writing full time.

When he won his first Hugo (IIRC, I may have the details a bit off, but the basic story is true. I might have read it in N-Space, but I’d heard it before that), he thanked his grandfather; who made it possible because Larry was able to do nothing but write.

He grew up in a family (and class) where women didn’t have to worry about being second class citizens. His wife is a pretty strong-minded woman. His sisters too. He puts strong women in the stories he writes. He’s never really seen women who had to struggle, and so (I think) he fails to understand just how hard women had it (and still do), and so it wasn’t jarring to him.

Jerry, on the other hand, has no excuse (esp. because his daughter was in the Army). He’s just a reactionary; on women, on race (though he has the usual blind spots for black people he knows. They are ok, but as a group…), on class, on pretty much everything.

There was a time he hated me, mostly because I didn’t give him any more respect than he deserved; and he wanted more. He’s gotten a little more pleasant to be around now that’s sober, but to hear him talk politics is to be aware that he has a large hole in his moral center.

“Fuck you, I got mine” is pretty much where he sits.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

Actually most of the money Paris has now she made herself. Don’t get me wrong, she’s a symbol of a lot of the things that are wrong with pop culture, but dumb she isn’t. It’s an act. The only possible reason to assume that the Jersey Shore guys are smarter than her is sexism.

hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

Is someone seriously claiming a cast of member of Jersey Shore is smarter than anything?

I’m no Paris Hilton fan, but she’s dumb like Jessica Simpson. Both are making fucktons of money. It’s sad that they have to play dumb to do it.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

To be fair, they might be smarter than Diogenes…

pecunium
7 years ago

Cassandra: I don’t think she’s dumb. I don’t really think the Jersey Shore guy is smarter (odds are he’s a lot less smart) but while the money she has now is money she made, she was able to make it because of money she didn’t make.

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

I actually enjoyed pretending (knowing almost nothing about Paris Hilton) that she was pulling an elaborate performance on everyone. Like trolling, only way more lucrative.

Also, Kittehs, oh god, you know of Tom of Finland. God, now there is an artist that I wish hadn’t been as popular as he was; his art style is grotesque to me and it influenced so much gay male art, argh. I am haunted by gigantic dicks and inflated pectorals at night. *shudder*

cloudiah
7 years ago

I don’t like the Tom of Finland art much either, but he was a friend of mine’s neighbor for a while and she said he was a really nice guy. For what it’s worth.

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

RE: cloudiah

Huh, really? I’m glad he was a nice guy. Unfortunately, it doesn’t change that I have a visceral dislike of his art style. (Robert Crumb brings out the same response in me.) Then again, I’d much rather have a nice person who made art I dislike than a douchebag who made art I adore.

cloudiah
7 years ago

Yeah, I remember going to an art exhibit that had a whole room full of Tom of Finland stuff, back in the 80s. I think they were going for “edgy”. I just kind of backed slowly out of the room.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

I am haunted by gigantic dicks and inflated pectorals at night. *shudder*

Not to be mean, but if you meant this literally it would be hilarious, someone’s dreams being haunted by terrible artwork. I’m imagining you moaning “noooooo, the proportions are all wrong” in your sleep.

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

RE: cloudiah

Yeah, that’d be too much for me. It’d be like getting my brain pistol-whipped with a giant rubber dong.

RE: CassandraSays

That is pretty much EXACTLY how it goes.

“No… no… waist… waist too small… everything too… NO DON’T PUT YOUR PENIS THERE!”

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

LOL about Tom of Finland! His drawings certainly don’t do the “whoa, sexy” thing for me, either. They’re just … well, good for the occasional quick look at for something strange. Giant penises and grotesque pecs are not my idea of beautiful or sexy either. I do like the prettiness of some of the faces, but it’s all in a totally-not-for-me world of gay fantasy.

Totally with you about Robert Crumb. Can’t stand his stuff.

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

RE: Kittehs

Yeah, I can handle Robert Crumb’s art style… until I think around 1975? Then the visceral, “DO NOT WANT” reaction gets stronger. It’s nothing to do with quality of work, either, it’s just something about the style that hits some weird “NO” button in my brain. I get it with music too. (Can not ABIDE that song ‘Someone That I Used To Know,’ can’t even listen to it all the way through because the singer’s voice hits the same nerve.)

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

I’ve never heard more than a phrase from that song – I know about it, of course, the media here’s all over the bloke, but the couple of lines I heard left me very “meh” and not at all interested in hearing more. I’ll stick to Mr Springsteen. 😉

Crumb’s style leaves me cold and I loathe the content. He, or at least his art, just seem totally creepy.

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

RE: Kittehs

Yeah, Crumb is a sighmaker for me. Since I’m a comics creator and reader, he is of course a little tin god because he was at the head of the counter-culture comics movement, fighting the Big Two US comics publishers of DC and Marvel and making comics for adults, et cetera et cetera…

…but yeah, mega-creepiness. And no, I don’t think it’s just the art either. I was reading one of the counter-culture comics later down the line, done by a woman. They were fictionalized stories of child molestation, based on her own experiences, and Crumb was her idol, and so he wrote the preface for her book. All good, right?

Except THEN he pretty much uses the preface to be like, “Oh, she was a teenage girl, and she was molested which of course is totally terrible, but oh, woe, I am such a bad person because I wanted to have sex with her!” And it was just so fucking creepy and D: making for me. It’s like, dude, this preface is supposed to be you saying how awesome this book is, not flagellating yourself for wanting to bang her as a teenager!

He’s just one creator of a whole genre of comics I avoid that I call “Neurotic Men with Issues About Women.” I tend to avoid all of them.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

Neurotic M[a]n With Issues About Women seems to sum up everything I’ve read about Crumb. I apply brain bleach every time I read anything about him. Keep your skeevy porn fantasies to yourself, dude.

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

RE: Kittehs

Yeah, it’s weird, can’t say I’ve much encountered a gender-reversed trope of it. (Just as well. I don’t think I’d enjoy a comic all about a woman masturbating furiously to idealized visions of masculinity, all while also feeling dirty about it and flagellating herself over it.)

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

::bloork::

joanimal
joanimal
7 years ago

@pecunium

That you for that Larry Niven info. I had read everything he had written up to that time. Lucifer’s Hammer had more than one WTF MRA moment (don’t get me started on the Girl Scout troop….ARGGGH!) I never read crap like that in any book where Niven was the sole author, so I presumed it was Mr P’s contribution. It still left a bad taste in my mouth that a distinguished author like Niven would read that and think, yes that is ready to publish.

katz
7 years ago

Neurotic Man with Issues about Women sounds like the world’s second-worst superhero.

The worst is, of course, Florida Man.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

Reminds me of that old song about Irving, 142nd Fastest Gun in the West.

BlackBloc (@XBlackBlocX)

Well, I was going to say something about Paris Hilton being likely smarter than the guys from Jersey Shore, but I wanted to keep the post short and to the point.

cloudiah
7 years ago

Actually, I think Florida Man is my new favorite (anti) superhero, and more people should follow his exploits.

Jackson Ayres
Jackson Ayres
1 year ago

Did TheTruthishere write out his accent…?

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