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Hitting Women: Is it a Man’s Right?

Booster Gold: Woman Puncher, Men's Rights Hero
Booster Gold: Woman Puncher, Men’s Rights Hero

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Someone posted this picture in the Men’s Rights subreddit yesterday with the title “Equality.”

[Trigger Warning: Depiction of violence against women.]

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boosterhit

Yep, that’s right, equality is all about hitting women.  (Click the image for a larger version.)

The punchy superhero in question, Booster Gold,  is from the future, and “in the future he is from there is actual equality, or at least enough of it for the “you wouldn’t hit a girl” thing to not be any kind of issue,” as one Men’s Rightser explained in the comments,

Yep, in MRA-land, men hitting women – sorry, girls — is considered “progress.”

And a critical men’s rights issue. Responding to a Redditor who thought the picture was “fantastic” but wondered if it should be in the Men’s Rights subreddit, BlueOak offered this explanation:

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Making it socially acceptable for men to hit women, evidently a key plank on the Men’s Rights platform.

Wouldn’t it make a little more sense to work towards a world in which, you know, neither men nor women were getting punched on a regular basis?

 

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joanimal
joanimal
11 years ago

Reading the article reminded me of something…hmmm… I just could not put my finger on it.

Oh yeah, Evolutionary Psych:
1. Describe a behavior (it can be real or imaginary.)
2. Postulate a mechanism without proof but with a fuck-ton of verbage to appear scholarly.
3. Be surprised that it coincides with a preexisting point-of-view.

mxe354
mxe354
11 years ago

Oh, speaking of MRAs on Reddit, I was checking out r/Anarchism not too long ago, and I kept seeing this guy called “Sammysharks” (or something like that) trolling the anarcha-feminist threads to no end, asserting that rape culture doesn’t exist because “murder culture”, that women “cry rape” all the time after having sex they regret, that feminists have broadened the definition of rape too much, and that all the courts are biased against men.

And then I saw this other dude saying that he doesn’t call himself a feminist because there are some feminists out there who do, in fact, hate men and there is no “feminist manifesto” that separates misandric feminists from non-misandric feminists..

MRA anarchists are a strange breed indeed.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Curious coincidence how fixated MRAs are on being accused of rape, isn’t it … ?

BigMomma
BigMomma
11 years ago

Failing to return the favor, then, can make one look like a social cheater. This obviously puts the recipient in a bind: while they would certainly like to enjoy the benefits of the nice individual’s behavior (free meals, social support, and so on), they don’t want to have the obligation to repay it if it’s avoidable

Leaving aside his rather bizarre, transactional definition of altruism… again with this bullshit about men always paying for dinner.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Not to mention that he’s not suggesting women repay meals and social support with … meals and social support. No, he’s trotting out the old MRA/NiceGuy(TM) trope that women must repay anything a man does for them* with sex.

Yup, he’s just another creeper.

*except of course these guys aren’t doing it out of friendship or affection for the women, they’re putting kindness coins into the sex vending machine.

I just had a wonderful image from that … the sexbots DKM et al fantasise about being coin-operated and the coins getting stuck. The frustration would be a joy to watch.

BigMomma
BigMomma
11 years ago

For instance, to make that reframing (nice to “nice”) more successful, the person doing the reframing has to come off as having innocent motives themselves: if the woman in question was explicit about her desire to take advantage of men’s niceness towards her with no intentions of any repayment, she’s back to being the cheater in the situation (just as the “nice guy’s” behavior is back to just being plain old nice, if a bit naive).

SO.MUCH.FAIL.

eli
eli
11 years ago

“repayment”

sheesh!

BigMomma
BigMomma
11 years ago

Kitteh, exactly…it’s the ‘but, hey I spent time with you and bought you dinner and you only want to spend time with me and buy me dinner back? You entitled whore princess!’

Fuckity fuckity fuck fuck.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Yup. Blatant misogyny. He might as well be an MRA.

I was trying to think of the last time a man paid for my meal, or for anything. Only occasion I can think of at all (apart from when I was a little kid) is once at an office Christmas lunch. Mind you the same man paid for all our meals – we picked the priciest restaurant around and it all went on our CEO’s credit card. The choice of restaurant came from our section head, who was also a man.

BigMomma
BigMomma
11 years ago

And since when is altruism defined as ‘ I’ll do something for you in the expectation that you repay the favour in a manner of my choosing?’

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Since MRAs started writing dictionaries?

(No the Big Book of Learnin’ doesn’t count!)

Yoyo
Yoyo
11 years ago

My best friend became an escort for a while and it amazed me how man clients were there because they wanted an intimacy even a faux intimacy. The other thing that surprised me was how much my friend cared for some of them. Either way I thing men are really upset that they can’t do the same

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Upset that they can’t do the same what, Yoyo? That last sentence seems to have been eaten. Can’t be escorts, d’you mean, or can’t pay for escorts? I doubt the MRA whiners would want to pay an escort’s fees, and they sure as hell wouldn’t get any repeat bookings (plus prostitution being illegal in most of the USA where a lot of these jackasses seem to live, dunno how that would affect escorts though).

melody
melody
11 years ago

You know Matt the dude who wrote about how to rape women: he also did a video about why there is no such thing as a rape survivor (http://mattforney.com/2013/01/29/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-rape-survivor/). It is interesting because he claims that because rape isn’t inherently going to kill you that there is no such thing as a rape survivor. Then he writes and article saying that after you rape a woman you should kill her. ……………….

Then again he also has an article called: A Hippie Girl Tried to Rape Me at Pondamonium. This title worried me, but then I read it and he said ” hoooo boy was I consenting.”. And I was like then why use the word rape? You said you consented. He used rape because she aggressively came on to him. I feel like he really doesn’t understand the concept of rape.

I need to not browse websites that upset me.

pecunium
11 years ago

Melody: He does understand it. He chooses to abuse the term, because he has a an agenda.

drst
drst
11 years ago

I’m always baffled by how basic acts of friendship, which would be taken as nothing more than friendship by MRAs when they occur between people of the same gender, are somehow completely different when they occur between a man and a woman*.

Then I wonder, maybe the reason these guys spend all their time online, and frequently come here to troll, is that they have no friends? If the ONLY REASON EVER to do something decent for another person is to get sex, and not getting that expected reward for that decent act is misandry and the end of human civilization, that would make you a pretty shitty person to be around and a person who has almost no friends.

* – there are more genders than “man” and “woman” but I’m positive MRAs would never acknowledge that.

Podkayne
11 years ago

I just finished rereading the Matt Forney rape thing and I finally realize why he thinks this is satire he’s written! He is mocking the very concept of acquaintance rape. He -actually- thinks it’s completely unbelievable that he may know several survivors, he thinks anyone who claims an acquaintance raped them is lying because who would be stupid enough to rape someone who can identify them, he makes fun of women who drink and think they can still claim it was rape, etc. His main disbelief seems to be that there are rapists who don’t inflict severe physical violence apart from the actual sexual assault. Because who wouldn’t use the opportunity? God I feel slow. And sick.

pecunium
11 years ago

Podkayne: I think that’s it. Certainly part of his agenda is to make anything but “stranger rape” just, “sex she regrets”.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Christ, Forney’s from my hometown. That explains a lot.

pillow in hell
pillow in hell
11 years ago

Hellkell, my condolences.

You have a lot of dudes like that in your hometown?

pillow in hell
pillow in hell
11 years ago

And on psychology today, came this report about rapists being criminal and not mentally ill.

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/dsm5-in-distress/201302/dsm-5-confirms-rape-is-crime-not-mental-disorder

Which effectively means that rapists cannot be involuntarily commited after they have served their prison sentences.

The question now, is what will society do with extremely violent and persistant rapists?

mxe354
mxe354
11 years ago

It is interesting because he claims that because rape isn’t inherently going to kill you that there is no such thing as a rape survivor.

Funny how another meaning for “survivor” is “one who carries on despite hardships or trauma.”

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

You have a lot of dudes like that in your hometown?

There is a certain assbackwards mentality there that I don’t miss.

pecunium
11 years ago

pillow in hell: I don’t think I’m against that. If rape isn’t a mental disorder (and I don’t think it is) then using a claim that it is to create a non-judicial form of indefinite imprisonment seems dishonest.

I would say that violent, and persistent offenders, be given longer sentences, up front.

mxe354
mxe354
11 years ago

he thinks anyone who claims an acquaintance raped them is lying because who would be stupid enough to rape someone who can identify them

Yeah, it’s not like rapists use intimidation tactics to silence their victims. And we all know how ineffective those tactics are.

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