Over at The Spearhead, the boys are thinking about tomorrow – to be more specific, about the year 2020, the date at which an MRA calling himself The Fifth Horseman predicted in an eccentric online manifesto that a convergence of forces would lead to the popping of what he calls “the misandry bubble,” and that the ensuing gender apocalypse would put the uppity ladies of the world firmly in their place.
In a post, Spearhead head boy W.F. Price notes that “cliodynamicist” Peter Turchin is also predicting big changes around 2020 (though unlike The Fifth Horseman, Turchin doesn’t base any part of his theory on the development of super-hot Virtual Reality sexbots). This naturally inspires the assembled Spearheaders to start scratching their own crystal balls, enthralled with visions of a future Armageddon that forces the ladies to come crying to them for forgiveness.
Jay R, a sort of apocalyptic deficit hawk, blames the ladies for the US government’s big debts:
Government has acted as though economic principles don’t apply to it — borrowing can increase forever without significant consequence. Riiiiiiiiight. And let’s not forget that the bulk of government debt and spending is a transfer of resources from men to women. It is primarily women who owe this debt. Will they be able to repay it? Only with massive devaluation of the currency.
And then he imagines women owing men a whole other sort of debt, which he has simply made up, and predicts that this debt will come crashing down on women’s heads – a notion that seems to give him a bit of a rage-boner:
Similarly, women’s social debt to men — the incalculable damages resulting from women’s wholesale breach of the social contract — is unsustainable, and when the crash comes, women’s tears will be bitter indeed. This is justice — but still regretable, if one thinks how things might have turned out if radical feminist hatred had not comandeered the process of compromise between the sexes.
True equality for women is on the horizon. When they finally are accorded the same treatment as men, and realize how far they have fallen — how much they themselves have been devalued as a sex — they will think themselves in hell.
Rod Van Mechelen of Backlash.com has an even more elaborate apocalyptic fantasy – although he’s a bit less certain about its outcome being a good one for men. In this portion of a long comment, he speculates about a couple of possible (by which I mean completely and ludicrously impossible) outcomes:
Demographically, the relative value of fecund females is set to go hyperbolic by 2020, when insane policies in Asia and the Subcontinent will manifest a shortage of women of child bearing age. In the past, when war has created a shortage of men, peace and prosperity were the result. What will happen when we have a shortage of women? Will we see a rise in female power, with matriarchies like the ones in Robert Heinlein’s classic, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress? Will we see rampant homosexuality and mandatory sexual servitude for women, as in J. Neil Schulmann’s The Rainbow Cadenza?
Uh, I think I’m going to go with “none of the above.”
Prolific MRA commenter and regular A Voice for Men contributor Keyster predicts (surprise, surprise!) economic collapse and riots in the streets.
[W]hen the money runs out and California becomes Greece, the federal government will step in with “emergency funds” and National Guard troops…a federal government that continues to borrow abroad to sustain itself. Do you see the snake eating it’s tail yet? And we have to wonder why there’s a nationwide shortage of guns and ammo?
Naturally, the rioters will be black.
If you thought inner city blacks were angry over Rodney King, just wait until they become desperate for food. Asian shop owners will be over-run in days, further distribution to these war zones will cease – and they’ll branch out to the tony suburbs seeking sustinence and easy prey. Drones will be called in to contain the rovering marauding gangs.
Keyster predicts that all these scary riots will lead the (presumably non-black, non-rioting) ladies to start batting their eyelashes at big strong (presumably non-black, non-rioting) men.
Men will notice a decided shift in women’s once hostile attitude towards them. “Can I get you a sandwhich honey?” “Are you thirsty?” “Need a back rub?”
They will be actively engaged in seeking out male protectors and openly using sexual allure to attract them as mates. Men are so much better at defending themselves from bad guys, so you’ll want one with you if you’re a woman.
Greyghost, meanwhile, imagines that the anti-uppity-female effects of an economic collapse will be enhanced by … the development of a male birth control pill. (You may need to read this one slowly; Mr. Ghost is not what you’d call a great communicator.)
[L]et’s say a male birth control pills comes out before cold fusion or some other extender of government wealth. What happens when even a coward to stand up to the femine imperative knows this misandry is unsustainable and figures out a male pill will maybe cause a correction while he still can be a coward. A woman without child is a worker drone and not eligible for entitlements.The US may look like China with low wage factories full of female workers with male mechanics/technicians keeping the machines running.
What is really funny and would be interesting to check out. Knowing women from reading and discussing female nature with you all here in the manosphere in general with the male pill being a pleasant wife might be the herd status symbol of the future. Take civil unrest combined with poor economic opportunities with men having the finale say so on who gets pregnant or not and we have a new status symbol.
Like Keyster, who once boasted on The Spearhead of dating a 14-year-old when he was 25, Greyghost seems enamored of relatively weak and dependent gals:
Next to a dog female fear is a mans best friend. Fearful insecure women tend to be more polite and pleasant to those around her.
Dream on, guys. Dream on.
Ah yes, pharmaceuticals might be needed…I may have to kidnap the not-an-ex, ze’s a pharmacy grad student…
I hear grapes are fairly easy to grow, and if you’d settle for beer, I think Pecunium can help with that!
Kitteh — instant is better than nothing! And I’m handy with duct tape, I can help with the spider proofing, as long as I don’t have to deal with any in the process (zombies? Meh, it’s self-defense! Spiders? *screams and jumps on a chair*)
As for kitchen weapons, have the knives all gone missing or something? Looking for less “I will kill you” weapons? Because knives are kind of a traditional weapon…
Brain bleach —
Kitteh — http://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/303351633247621120/photo/1
Goofy doggie — http://twitter.com/CuteEmergency/status/303351734288396289/photo/1
Kitchen knives would be good for slicing but not so much for stabbing.
My knives have a mind of their own. They jump out and attack me at random moments during the cooking and washing-up processes.
Actually the greatest unsung weapon in most American kitchens, if you could get someone’s hand down it, would be a garbage disposal.
That scene from the first series of Heroes had a profound effect on both myself and my boyfriend. We’re staying here in Britain where we don’t have such vicious things down our plugholes.
Dynamos for sex bots might work creativeWS, but that implies an ability to keep the bott moving that is probably beyond most mras, as far as puas go I don’t think insulting a robot is a good idea or power source .
A bot that runs on insults! I could see this working for industrial applications in countries that are particularly talented at and fond of cursing.
My weapon of choice is a pack of male Rottweilers trained to attack on command only by my weak womanly voice (ie mangina Rottweilers)
Creative Writing Student: Garbage disposals would not do that to a hand. NBC actually was sued by American standard i think. Garbage disposals are more like high speed sandpaper. if they had blades, they would get clogged far more often.
My garbage disposal has (blunt) blades. I know this because I dropped a spoon down there and had to retrieve it.
Not standard in household kitchens, but industrial meat grinders *shudders*
Also, farm equipment, all of it, but hay balers might win…actually, that’d be an incredibly effective way to seriously reduce a zombie attack — drive right through it in goddamned farm equipment.
I never could really take the concept of the zombie apocalypse seriously.
I mean, I’m from Texas. The heat’ll kill you a lot faster. And shit, the roads are so pedestrian-unfriendly, INTELLIGENT people get run down there all the time. Something as dumb as a zombie wouldn’t have much of a chance.
So what you’re saying is that zombies would be less intelligent than armadillos, and there’s a reason Texans refer to those as speedbumps.
RE: Argenti
I dunno, I’ve driven a tractor. Fuckers’re SLOW.
(But then, I like to subscribe to the ‘zombies as mosquitos’ theory. They’re attracted to carbon dioxide and heat. Just leave a lawnmower running somewhere appropriately nasty and watch em go.)
(Also, this is semi-relevant because I’m brainstorming a postapocalyptic story where supernatural phenomenon are fueled by belief. A common problem is ‘plague zombies.’ Maybe one real extreme person believes, and so a plague zombie pops up. It eats somebody, more people believe, which makes more zombies, which ups the body count, repeat until the town is decimated. Then the plague zombies vanish, because of lack of living believers, leaving a ghost town behind. Some unscrupulous people try to control that to clean out land they want.)
RE: CassandraSays
Yup. (Shame, really. I like armadillos. Family of them used to live in the creekbed behind my house, and they were both completely unafraid of me and completely harmless. Cute little buggers.)
De-lurking to add that I was a teenager when I read The Rainbow Cadenza and it scarred me for life. It figures the MRAs would bring it up. And that’s real!
Can I join you all in the bunker too? I know how to can foods, and I’ve got a pantry full of pickled jalapenos and spiced pineapple as we speak. You supply fluffy kitties, I’ll keep you full of goodies.
These guys are so fucking stupid:
“Men will notice a decided shift in women’s once hostile attitude towards them. “Can I get you a sandwhich honey?” “Are you thirsty?” “Need a back rub?”
Oh please. We’d be too busy doing important shit. Not enough time to baby you, you freaking child. These guys are soooo gross.
“They will be actively engaged in seeking out male protectors and openly using sexual allure to attract them as mates. Men are so much better at defending themselves from bad guys, so you’ll want one with you if you’re a woman.”
No, no and no. And watch this and tremble, disgusting sexist dudes:
Slow sure, but you’re relatively well enclosed, and far enough off the ground that they’d have to work to get at you. And any attempts to get that close risk being pulled under.
Not as effective as full auto firearms, but far less need to reload XD
I’m screwed though if they hunt like mosquitoes, those fuckers think I’m delicious.
cloudiah: So what are the best tools/things to carry for self defense? I commute on foot, sometimes when it’s dark. My sister got me pepper spray, but I am convinced an ill-timed gust of wind would blow it back at me if I ever used it. I usually just rely on using my keys as a potential weapon.
Eyes and ears are the first. A good pepper spray is more of a stream, than it is a “spray”, so wind isn’t that sort of worry. The better versions for personal protection also include a dye, so the person one sprays can be more easily spotted if they run away.
For everyday carry… things which make sense. I am also fond of aikido as a defensive art, not least because it’s all about dealing with being attacked; which is the mindset which works best as a defensive way of looking at the world, to say nothing of making the reaction to being attacked more of “and now I do this,” rather than, “WTF!!!!”.
I once had someone who knew more “aggressive” arts doing a demo, and asking me what attack I’d like him to do. I told him to punch me in the gut. Tsuki koto gaish is a pretty simple move, and as usually done it leads to a slow pin. He came at me full-speed, full force. Instead of leading him to the ground I ended up flipping him through the air; and then did a much more aggressive pin.
That’s why I like aikido.
For the record, I like the blue-collar pragmatism of Tae Kwon Do. But that’s just me.
“He came at me full-speed, full force.”
Cue “well this is going to end well” reaction. Not being all “how do I punch now that I’m on my back” is useful too (you don’t, you kick)
Also, weapons you won’t be afraid to use = a plus. That was my question with kitchen knives, they’re a useless weapon if you want to stun and run and not risk killing your attacker.
And for show-off, looks cool purposes, definitely kung fu.
re kitchen knives: They aren’t great as weapons. The balance is wrong, they are, in the main, delicate to the purpose and they lack the guards which keep one’s hands from sliding up the blade if one hits something like bone when stabbing.
My preferred weapon, if I’m working in a kitchen, is whatever is boiling on the stove.
Same is true when I’m walking down the street, a cup of coffee is a great thing. Spit a mouthful on them, and then pour the rest over their head. Then run like hell.