Over at The Spearhead, the boys are thinking about tomorrow – to be more specific, about the year 2020, the date at which an MRA calling himself The Fifth Horseman predicted in an eccentric online manifesto that a convergence of forces would lead to the popping of what he calls “the misandry bubble,” and that the ensuing gender apocalypse would put the uppity ladies of the world firmly in their place.
In a post, Spearhead head boy W.F. Price notes that “cliodynamicist” Peter Turchin is also predicting big changes around 2020 (though unlike The Fifth Horseman, Turchin doesn’t base any part of his theory on the development of super-hot Virtual Reality sexbots). This naturally inspires the assembled Spearheaders to start scratching their own crystal balls, enthralled with visions of a future Armageddon that forces the ladies to come crying to them for forgiveness.
Jay R, a sort of apocalyptic deficit hawk, blames the ladies for the US government’s big debts:
Government has acted as though economic principles don’t apply to it — borrowing can increase forever without significant consequence. Riiiiiiiiight. And let’s not forget that the bulk of government debt and spending is a transfer of resources from men to women. It is primarily women who owe this debt. Will they be able to repay it? Only with massive devaluation of the currency.
And then he imagines women owing men a whole other sort of debt, which he has simply made up, and predicts that this debt will come crashing down on women’s heads – a notion that seems to give him a bit of a rage-boner:
Similarly, women’s social debt to men — the incalculable damages resulting from women’s wholesale breach of the social contract — is unsustainable, and when the crash comes, women’s tears will be bitter indeed. This is justice — but still regretable, if one thinks how things might have turned out if radical feminist hatred had not comandeered the process of compromise between the sexes.
True equality for women is on the horizon. When they finally are accorded the same treatment as men, and realize how far they have fallen — how much they themselves have been devalued as a sex — they will think themselves in hell.
Rod Van Mechelen of Backlash.com has an even more elaborate apocalyptic fantasy – although he’s a bit less certain about its outcome being a good one for men. In this portion of a long comment, he speculates about a couple of possible (by which I mean completely and ludicrously impossible) outcomes:
Demographically, the relative value of fecund females is set to go hyperbolic by 2020, when insane policies in Asia and the Subcontinent will manifest a shortage of women of child bearing age. In the past, when war has created a shortage of men, peace and prosperity were the result. What will happen when we have a shortage of women? Will we see a rise in female power, with matriarchies like the ones in Robert Heinlein’s classic, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress? Will we see rampant homosexuality and mandatory sexual servitude for women, as in J. Neil Schulmann’s The Rainbow Cadenza?
Uh, I think I’m going to go with “none of the above.”
Prolific MRA commenter and regular A Voice for Men contributor Keyster predicts (surprise, surprise!) economic collapse and riots in the streets.
[W]hen the money runs out and California becomes Greece, the federal government will step in with “emergency funds” and National Guard troops…a federal government that continues to borrow abroad to sustain itself. Do you see the snake eating it’s tail yet? And we have to wonder why there’s a nationwide shortage of guns and ammo?
Naturally, the rioters will be black.
If you thought inner city blacks were angry over Rodney King, just wait until they become desperate for food. Asian shop owners will be over-run in days, further distribution to these war zones will cease – and they’ll branch out to the tony suburbs seeking sustinence and easy prey. Drones will be called in to contain the rovering marauding gangs.
Keyster predicts that all these scary riots will lead the (presumably non-black, non-rioting) ladies to start batting their eyelashes at big strong (presumably non-black, non-rioting) men.
Men will notice a decided shift in women’s once hostile attitude towards them. “Can I get you a sandwhich honey?” “Are you thirsty?” “Need a back rub?”
They will be actively engaged in seeking out male protectors and openly using sexual allure to attract them as mates. Men are so much better at defending themselves from bad guys, so you’ll want one with you if you’re a woman.
Greyghost, meanwhile, imagines that the anti-uppity-female effects of an economic collapse will be enhanced by … the development of a male birth control pill. (You may need to read this one slowly; Mr. Ghost is not what you’d call a great communicator.)
[L]et’s say a male birth control pills comes out before cold fusion or some other extender of government wealth. What happens when even a coward to stand up to the femine imperative knows this misandry is unsustainable and figures out a male pill will maybe cause a correction while he still can be a coward. A woman without child is a worker drone and not eligible for entitlements.The US may look like China with low wage factories full of female workers with male mechanics/technicians keeping the machines running.
What is really funny and would be interesting to check out. Knowing women from reading and discussing female nature with you all here in the manosphere in general with the male pill being a pleasant wife might be the herd status symbol of the future. Take civil unrest combined with poor economic opportunities with men having the finale say so on who gets pregnant or not and we have a new status symbol.
Like Keyster, who once boasted on The Spearhead of dating a 14-year-old when he was 25, Greyghost seems enamored of relatively weak and dependent gals:
Next to a dog female fear is a mans best friend. Fearful insecure women tend to be more polite and pleasant to those around her.
Dream on, guys. Dream on.
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When they say “women” do they mean all women everywhere, or only the ones they’re attracted to?
As in, would you really need the bunker and weaponised cats if a single moist towelette could effectively render a woman invisible to them, simply by taking the makeup off?
Bingo. Faceless Assassins.
Everywhere.
One thing I always find fascinating about these people who engage in substantial wishful thinking about what is to come with massive societal collapse is the implicit assumption that they themselves will survive and somehow climb to the top of the post apocalyptic structure. Nobody who wishes for all this ever considers the possibility that they to will be eliminated in the after chaos. It is always the feminists and the blacks and the other whoevers who will finally get their due. Sure a few dedicated preppers will last longer than I will, but supplies run out, stronger Alphas appear. It is not like all these MRA/MGTOW types are going to have a loving respectful society together, they will also be killing one another off. They won’t have any mutual self interest or a desire to give one another free advice once that happens.
Possibly, but we like cats. 😛
Incorrect. “Creepy” is the guy who approvingly compares fearful women to dogs, and who fantasizes about the day that the world ends so he can have the harem that he’s entitled to.
You know what makes most MRAs creepy?
A lot of things, but you’ve already shown one of them: valuing/devaluing groups of people with respect to how they can be used.
Yeah.
I’ve been enjoying the site for a few weeks now. Thanks David and commentariat!
Delurking to say my father-in-law was in the Tattoo in the late seventies. It remains his proudest moment.
I personally don’t think Edinburgh is all that cold, although the lack of daylight in winter is deeply unpleasant. Scottish people need cute cat and dog videos to get them through the darkness. More cute vids!
Blitzgal, mxe354, wonderful responses.
If you guys could hold off on the zombie bunker for about… 2 years then I can contribute some sweet nursing skills! Can I come? *bounces up and down*
If I caught someone sniffing my underwear, I’d probably freak out (unless it was just a partner doing that because of some weird but harmless fetish). But by “freak out,” I mean “Oh dear what in the world this is so awkward and weird.”
“Creepy” for me would be “I feel very unsafe and uncomfortable these people because of their invasive and/or threatening behavior.” Which, I’ll have you know, is the first thought that comes to mind whenever I imagine myself being in the company of blatantly misogynistic and hostile MRAs.
As Granny Weatherwax says:
If you guys could hold off on the zombie bunker for about… 2 years then I can contribute some sweet nursing skills!
Same here! If I can find a way to stop pursuing this god-awful CS major my uncles and my dad pressured me to do and actually start working towards a BSN. And pay for my nursing education without the help of my family. v_v
I completely agree. I wrote something not too long ago that pertains to dehumanization: http://mellowness.dreamwidth.org/13558.html
Oh, I love Edinburgh! Me and husband went there for our honeymoon twelve years ago, and we’ve been back twice since then.
Gah, that person in your comments mxe354 :/
I know, right? He’s a troll who frequents Feministe, and he pretends to have really bad English for some reason (I suspect that he’s pretending because his mix of sophistication and poor grammar seems very contrived).
In the event of a zombie uprising, wouldn’t the best place to hole up be an island? I’m rather dubious zombies can swim, much less pilot a boat or a plane. I was thinking if there was some sort of zombie apocalypse I’d try to make it to one of the islands in the Great Lakes. Small enough to defend with a limited number of people, proximity to the mainland for resource scavenging, in a temperate enough zone to grow food and thanks to climate change our winters aren’t nearly as bad as they used to be.
I’d rather go out in the initial wave of an apocalypse but with my luck, I’ll be in the band of hardscrabble survivors. I can’t fight (that I know of) but I can cook and I know some first aid.
Horseshit. A prostrate member of the divine yoni’s cargo cult is much creepier than someone who doesn’t give a rat’s ass.
The real reason that women hate MRAs is because they don’t provide them with the groveling attention they have been trained to expect as their due from men. This is also the reason that women harbor a secret hatred for gay and bisexual men.
You know Dragon Slayer, you said like three days ago that any woman anywhere could literally get any cock she wanted and that was 100% true.
I asked for yours.
Did it get lost in the post or something?
Poe’s law, ladies and gentlemen.
@Drag: Implying that MRAs “don’t give a rat’s ass” about women is all of the information anyone should need to establish you as a non-player here. You are clueless, foolish, and wasting everyone’s time. You bring nothing to the table, and you’re not funny enough. Go away.
Everybody else:
I think we should build the bunker next to reddit island so that we can watch the shenanigans through a telescope.
Get a dictionary. The obsessive rants like the ones above are a clear illustration that MRAs are the opposite of indifferent.
You don’t get to tell us what we find creepy.
Actually we hate (most) MRAs because they happen to be extremely hateful and hostile.
As a general rule, the creepiest members of the human race tend to gather in obsessive fandoms, in an effort to escape their own sad lives by living vicariously through imaginary wish fulfillment. This is why Star Trek conventions reek of fromunda cheese and Twilight theaters are a nesting place for various classes of whale. It’s not much of a stretch to postulate that beta satellites and other sad sacks are in the fandom for women.