MRAs spend an awful lot of time getting worked up by hypothetical injustices. On the Men’s Rights subreddit, angry Men’s Rightsers regularly post links to stories of women behaving badly – or who may have been charged with or convicted of a crime – with indignant headlines suggesting that the women in question would be treated far worse if “she had been a man.”
The latest example of this outrage over imagined injustices? This post, found in r/mensrights today, with 87 net upvotes:
If you follow the link, it goes to a brief story about the alleged incident in The Huffington Post. I say “alleged” because the woman in question has not yet been convicted of anything. As the story reports, the police arrested her because
school staff told them the assembly was halted and the cafeteria cleared after Meaders began dancing onstage and took off some of her clothes.
She’s charged with seven counts of endangering the welfare of a child and one count of public lewdness.
An Albany City Court clerk says Meaders was arraigned Friday afternoon and ordered held on $3,000 bail. She doesn’t have a lawyer yet.
There is no mention of putting her on a sex offenders registry because, and let me be blunt here, YOU HAVE TO BE CONVICTED OF A CRIME TO GET PUT ON ONE. She’s merely been CHARGED.
There is no “pussy pass” for women that enables them to bypass the sex offenders registry ONCE THEY ARE CONVICTED of public lewdness. The relevant NY State law can be found here; as you can see, the gender of the convicted offender is not an issue. (It took all of 30 seconds on Google to dig that up.) Meaders isn’t getting special treatment because she’s a woman; she’s not on the offenders registry because an arrest is not the same as a conviction.
Enjoy your imagined oppression, fellas.
And don’t forget the plural of octopus – we talk about that a lot ….
As for the so called “pussy pass”, I was waiting for this to load while reading pecunium’s comments —
15-Year-Old Girl Raped, Police Dismiss the Case Because Victim and Attackers Have “Low IQs”
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/15-year-old-girl-raped-police-dismiss-case-because-victim-and-attackers-have-low
titanblue — nooooo! Not again! I’m going with octopuppies, because it’s funny 🙂
Allow me to sum up Brz for anyone who’s just coming in now. You are all terrible people who are being cruel to me! I am a proud misogynist! Also I am le French, not le Sock. At least when I’m not too upset to remember to put on my beret.
Yes, you are right. He is doing, 7.5 percent of his sentence. If they were throwing the book at him is was a (small) collection of Chick-Tracts.
I’m sorry for the formatting in that one with the excerpts. It upset me some.
Pussy pass? RMCP pass… http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/02/13/highway-of-tears-human-rights-watch-rcmp-rape_n_2675398.html
I, for one, forgive you for the formatting. Anyone not upset by such things needs to grow some empathy.
Pecunium wins ALL the internets. With bonbons.
TW for child abuse:
This must be an example of the “dick pass.”
And the dude still whines, via his lawyer, about how his life has been ruined beyond repair. Shades of the MRM in that one.
Also, I have just two words for the troll who thinks men are ALWAYS too harshly punished for rape. Roman Polanski. Ok fine, two more words. Mike Tyson.
Of course the biggest problem in any offender getting off the hook is not so much “pussy pass” as it is rape culture, which goes very much hand in hand with misogyny and actually generally assists men in getting off the hook, but keep telling yourself it’s just “pussy pass” and see where that actually gets you in terms of actually preventing future offenses.
Meanwhile, I’ll note that “pussy pass” or not, you don’t see feminist sites whining about how adult women’s inability to rape boys with impunity is destroying female sexuality, yet there is a lot of MRA bullshit out there that whines about how the age of legal consent is all a plot by evil, feminist hags over 25 to keep men from expressing their sexuality by not being able to rape young girls with impunity.
Also, note, which is not to say that this means feminists are saints for passing human decency 101 and not whining about not being able to rape people. It just means MRAs can’t even pass human decency 101.
Even if the rest of his screeds weren’t packed full of examples, fauxfrenchfarts’s use of the term “pussy pass” screams misogynist.
I remember pretty well the story of Fontenay-sous-Bois, French feminists, Clémentine Autain at their head, dared to accused “the machismo of the society” as being responsible for the verdict which is… incredibly dishonest coming from her. She’s a socialist, they are the ones who say all the time that if people from the “banlieues” shoot at cops with Kalashnikovs, that’s “a call for help”, they are the ones who had always blamed the racism of the society when there’s riots in these “banlieues”, they were the majors actors in transforming the judiciary system (in part with the “syndicat de la magistrature”) into a politicized institution which promotes actively laxation. What did they said when the police stop venturing into theses “banlieues” because they were systematically attacked and afraid of doing something that will provoke riots again? What did they said when even the fire-workers and the doctors begin to be attacked in these neighborhoods?
They said “we must not “stigmatize” the banlieues. Things aren’t so bad”.
What did they said when an association(IPJ) took a video of the father of Jeremy Censier crying because all the assassins of his sons who lynched him to death just because he was the (white) son of the cop were preventively released before their trial and only one of was charged for homicide, many were not even charged and the others were charged for “violence in group which had led to an incapacity of work superior to 8 days”.
They said that the association was using this case for politic propaganda, that this call for more “repression” was populist and dangerous.
What did they said when thugs shooted at cops with kalashnikovs in “Fontenay-sous-Bois”? They said they “understand their anger” and some of them (Les indivisibles) said the police was “a force of occupation”.
And after that they complain when our justice give lower sentences to rapists from the banlieues? They created this situation where the justice always give lower sentences both by ideology and in order to avoid riots. Thugs can do almost whatever they want in these neighborhoods : when a girl is raped every week in a caves by a dozen of her neighbors, the police says “sorry we can do anything, move to another place”. There’s even had been a story where a girl who dared to go to the police had been raped by her offenders in the toilets of the tribunal, to show her how much they care about justice. The ones who dared to spoke about the situation in this neighborhoods have been labeled racist and far-right, left intellectuals have said that speaking about this produce more racism, so everyone have to shut the fuck up.
And these socialist feminists dare to blame “machismo”(i.e. white people making sexist jokes) for this sentence.
They are part of the problem, not the solution.
Part of the solution is the right-wing IPJ who call for ALL crimes committed to be judged equitably.
And in what concerns the “rape pass” the problem is at the bottom and at the top of societies, in the banlieues and in the elites : people are sentenced lightly or not sentenced at all in the banlieues because of “anti-racism”, at the top because powerful politicians are always protected by their friends. And guess what? Everyone knew in France that Dominique Strauss-Kahn had an habit to harass women and no feminist ever raised a finger to do something about it. Even when he was charged of rape in New York and all the nasty stories that emerged after, no feminist organization made a campaign against him, no, they made a campaign “against the sexism that appeared with this story in the commentaries made about it…”. One never forgets where the money comes from, huh? DSK was a socialist, so, yeah, they back off.
French socialists have made me learn that evil always hide behind these days the mask of “the good cause”.
Brz, add “brazen, undisguised derailing/goalpost shifting” to the list of your skills by which I am impressed.
“Also, I have just two words for the troll who thinks men are ALWAYS too harshly punished for rape. Roman Polanski. Ok fine, two more words. Mike Tyson.”
Didn’t said that men were always too harshly punished for rape, I’ve found a case where a woman spared jail with odds judge’s motivations I don’t think he could or another judge will ever used for a man, which makes a “pussy pass”.
I don’t understand why you oppose rights of men and rights of women, rights of victims and rights of offenders oppose themselves, but rights of men an women aren’t necessarily opposed.
In a society, a woman can have a “pussy pass”, I don’t think that know a man can have a “dick pass” (be given a lower sentence because he’s a man), but Men can have a “rape pass”.
The goal is that no one have any kind of pass when committing a rape.
As for Polanski, I will aggravate my case, but I have to say it : Polanski was supported in France because he was Jew, he was supported by Jews (BHL, Elisabeth Levy,…) who are used to always support other Jews despite logic and morality.
Shorter Brz – I have nothing of any value to say. Please feel free to ignore my pointless, rambling grudge-wank.
I’m so glad you cleared that up, Neo.
Ah, so he’s a racist anti-semite too. Good to know.
rights of victims and rights of offenders oppose themselves
what?
no they don’t.
Both those accused of a crime and those doing the accusing have rights, and they are not opposed. You are making stupid shit up. Also, your cutesy ‘pass’ lingo is fucked up and you are horrible. Go away.
Funny, isn’t it. One moment we’re toothless, next moment he’s a great hero for standing up to the beast. Anything to make his wanky little pretend self a big man.
Know what makes someone a big man, sonny? Being a decent human being. So far, you’re not doing at all well.
I love how he’s trying to make his English shittier because we aren’t buying the French act. Hey, Brz? No matter where you’re from, you’re a piece of shit.
“One moment we’re toothless, next moment he’s a great hero for standing up to the beast.”
Mhm, no that was at the same moment that I said that.
You know, only Americans use ‘thug’ to mean ‘man of colour’.
When a woman gets a ‘pass’ that couldn’t* be extended to a man, that’s a ‘pussy pass’, when it happens to a man, it’s *mumblemumblenothingtoseeherenothesegoalpostswerealwaysheredon’tknowwhatyou’retalkingabout*.
(*Except it could, and is.)
Sorry, should read “only American racists”, not “only Americans”.