MRAs spend an awful lot of time getting worked up by hypothetical injustices. On the Men’s Rights subreddit, angry Men’s Rightsers regularly post links to stories of women behaving badly – or who may have been charged with or convicted of a crime – with indignant headlines suggesting that the women in question would be treated far worse if “she had been a man.”
The latest example of this outrage over imagined injustices? This post, found in r/mensrights today, with 87 net upvotes:
If you follow the link, it goes to a brief story about the alleged incident in The Huffington Post. I say “alleged” because the woman in question has not yet been convicted of anything. As the story reports, the police arrested her because
school staff told them the assembly was halted and the cafeteria cleared after Meaders began dancing onstage and took off some of her clothes.
She’s charged with seven counts of endangering the welfare of a child and one count of public lewdness.
An Albany City Court clerk says Meaders was arraigned Friday afternoon and ordered held on $3,000 bail. She doesn’t have a lawyer yet.
There is no mention of putting her on a sex offenders registry because, and let me be blunt here, YOU HAVE TO BE CONVICTED OF A CRIME TO GET PUT ON ONE. She’s merely been CHARGED.
There is no “pussy pass” for women that enables them to bypass the sex offenders registry ONCE THEY ARE CONVICTED of public lewdness. The relevant NY State law can be found here; as you can see, the gender of the convicted offender is not an issue. (It took all of 30 seconds on Google to dig that up.) Meaders isn’t getting special treatment because she’s a woman; she’s not on the offenders registry because an arrest is not the same as a conviction.
Enjoy your imagined oppression, fellas.
Boerboels for Argenti!
D’AWWWW who’s a cute little puppy?
For those who missed the incel who sparked the boerboel thing, someone, katz maybe, compared coming here and demanding we discuss the horrors of being incel with going to an incel forum/blog and demanding info on boerboels. Amazingly, that wasn’t GGG but some drive by incel who caused a 6 page All About Me show.
@thebewilderness
Mhm? I knew from the beginning that whatever I say, you would never agree with me, not even with one single argument. I knew that you will use everything, each mean, even the ugly ones (attacks on private life) to destroy what you think I represent. You don’t argue, you attack. You don’t debate, you lynch. Just look at how you behaved on the other thread with the guy who made his best to prove that he’s a feminist : you didn’t tried to discuss with him, you insulted him and you finished by saying “your very presence is an offense for us”.
I’m not here to change you, I’m here to stand calmly in front of the beast. The behavior of your gang here is a virtual representation of what happens outside : you toothless virtual little cops who defines yourselves arbitrarily what is sexist/racist and insult, call to ban everyone you dislike are just doing the same things that happen outside. You know that such accusations can destroy the university career of any man. I know it.
You’re the ones in the side of the police sticks, you’re the ones who participates into the witch-hunts. You’re the face of intolerance of our times.
I’m here to watch you, to watch the ugliness of what you do. The way you always act in gang and always close to the point of becoming a delator. I’m here to measure the threat that people like you is for people like me and because I find the contrasts and situations of total incomprehension aesthetic.
Yawn. No one wants to witch-hunt you, Brz. We’re just not that into you.
Brz, you’re just here for us to chew on and mock. Don’t get it twisted, you’re not that important.
Oh yeah, ‘cos making fun of sexists on the internet is just like a lynching! Dude, get a grip.
Yeah maybe, we have a expression “the ones who bark with the wolves”, you’re at least one of those.
“Barks with the wolves” was a terrible movie.
Not doing too well at that whole being calm thing, is he?
You don’t make fun of sexist, otherwise, we would have better interactions, you’re judging everything to put the mark of sexism/racism on the things you don’t like. The same thing the witch-hunters do, you do it virtually. that’s not dangerous, that’s just ugly.
Brz, I have genuine awe for your ability to construct a narrative.
“Not doing too well at that whole being calm thing, is he?”
Mhm, in contrast with all the insults, insinuations and accusations you’ve gratified me, I think that I’ve remained globally very polite and courteous.
Aw, look, it thinks it’s important.
He keeps forgetting to be French.
And then I remind him and he throws another tantrum. I have to say, this is all beginning to seem awfully familiar.
Re-runs usually suck.
Manboobz 2 : The Grudge. Wasn’t a very good movie the first round either.
@CassandraSays
I dunno, I rather enjoyed the philosophical, academic, media-analytical and feline-appreciation subplots. 😛
Brz was the one pleased I was playing a ballad for him, right?
Well this is next up on my music stand —
I prefer Bch suddenly, at least he doesn’t act like he has slenderman fingers!
The angry whining was a real drag, though.
Hey, Brz should look on the bright side – he’s in very little danger of ever being taken seriously by anyone.
Brz: You want examples, have a ton
Some excerpts from the links on that page, the first from your beloved France:
Fourteen men were accused of participating in repeated rapes of two teenage girls in the housing projects of Fontenay-sous-Bois, outside Paris, from 1999 to 2001. The victims, now 29, reported being surrounded and raped by as many as two dozen aggressors at once.
Ten of the 14 defendants, all minors at the time the crimes were said to have occurred, were acquitted Wednesday. More worrisome to critics, however, were the relatively light sentences for the four men who were convicted of gang rapes: two were given a year in prison; the third, six months; and the fourth, a suspended sentence. Under French law, minors convicted of gang rape can receive terms as long as 10 years in prison.
To make that one more perplexing, One of the convicted defendants, identified in the French news media as Mahamadou Doucouré, is awaiting trial in the killing of his wife and is said to have confessed to her 2010 stabbing death.
Saying that “people in Missoula need to know that if you rape an acquaintance, it is a serious crime,” Missoula County Attorney Fred Van Valkenburg sought – and got – a 30-year-prison sentence, with 20 suspended, for Beau Donaldson on Friday.
Donaldson, a former University of Montana running back, pleaded guilty in September to raping a childhood friend two years earlier as she slept on his sofa.
Donaldson began to cry as Missoula County District Court Judge Karen Townsend pronounced the sentence. He’ll be eligible for parole if he serves a quarter – 2 1/2 years – of his 10 years in prison without incident.
So there you go, a 30 year sentence, cut down to 2 1/2.
Here is some of the testimony that case had:
Her mother awoke at 5 a.m. to a phone call, “one that haunts me. … Sheer terror was radiating through the phone.”
It was her daughter, screaming. “She said, ‘Save me, Mom. Help me, Mom. Save me, he’s chasing me down an alley.’ ”
The victim said that Donaldson caught up with her at one point, grabbing her arm. “Honestly, I thought he was going to kill me. I thought I was dead. He has guns and I was running away with the knowledge that he had just raped me,” she said.
He will serve less than one percent of the sentence. He was sober. Did he get a “prick pass”?
How about this: Tony Simmons, a juvenile court counselor, pleaded guilty to raping Ashley and sexually assaulting two other teenage girls, but he was only expected to receive 10 years probation.
He raped a teenager, no prison. More of that “horrific sentencing men get” when they are convicted of rape.
In Canada we have this one: Manitoba Justice Robert Dewar is under attack for his sentencing of Kenneth Rhodes, 40, for sexual assault. Dewar gave Rhodes just a two-year conditional sentence to be served at home for raping a 26-year-old woman. Dewar appeared to blame the victim in part for the attack.
Dewar noted that “sex [was]in the air” and made note of her dress as part of the context leading to the rape. Dewar noted “[t]his is a different case than one where there is no perceived invitation. This is a case of misunderstood signals and inconsiderate behaviour.”
However, victim rights advocates noted that Rhodes made repeated passes at the victim who was intoxicated and that she was so traumatized by the assault that she fled virtually naked into the woods.
So he got a “pussy pass”, because the judge blamed her for him choosing to rape her.
Two years, to be served at home. Tough life that one. It being a conditional sentence, he’s basically on good behavior, I particularly like the part I’ve bolded: What is a conditional sentence? A conditional sentence is a jail sentence that you serve in the community, instead of in jail. Judges will use a conditional sentence only if they are satisfied that you won’t be a danger to the community and you don’t have a history of failing to obey court orders.A conditional sentence usually has strict conditions, including a curfew. If you disobey the conditions, a judge can send you to jail for the rest of the time left on your sentence.
So engaging in rape = not a danger to the community, certainly not something of sufficient merit to mandate the more stringent rules of probation (which this is not).
In Victoria, British Columbia, only one in five men convicted of rape in 2009 were sentenced to more than six years, and the average was five. Some got as little as 18 months. The maximum penalty is 25 years. Throwing the book at them they are in Victoria.
How about this one: Lama al-Ghamdi, 5, died this past October from injuries relating to a crushed skull, broken ribs, a broken arm, a broken back and severe burns. On top of being brutally beaten, medical reports say that Lama had also been raped repeatedly.
Lama was killed by her father, prominent Islamic preacher Fayhan al-Ghamdi, who served only three months in prison and was released after paying $50,000 as ‘blood money.’
I guess the court understood how much he was captivated by her, “entrance of graciousness.§” What’s a little rape and murder compared to a fine and three months in jail.
I’d go on, but you won’t care, because you think a woman wasn’t punished enough, so all of these are as nothing to you.
§ that’s mocking you son, in case it was too subtle.
Yeah, that’s the same old tune from the beginning “you’re not special/you’re boring/you’re wrong/you’re an asshole” but you keep searching for the hidden misogyny in everything I say and you keep responding to me.
Hidden? When have you bothered to hide your misogyny?
We respond to you because it amuses us. When it stops amusing is, so to will the responses cease.
You don’t mock anything, I’ve never read a single joke on this website : you’re here to repeat mantras in group, to unite against a common foe and strengthen your beliefs.
That, son, points to a lack of awareness on your part.
BUt I can help, at 5:19, CST, Kitteh’s said “I’m seeing him as failing an audition to play Clouseau, now. There a piece of mocking humor.
Here is one not directed at you: RE: Dragon Slayer
But please, pray tell, what are your opinions on yaoi?
That was at 10:41, CST.
Again, scrolling up (these are all on this thread, on this very page [#2, in case the thread moved on while I was out], so it’s not as if was secreted away on some thread you weren’t taking part in), at 7:31, Would anyone venture to guess what would happen if one did “pull alpha dick”
I think they would scream and cry. I had a Bobbit moment there when I read that.
Mockery, it happens here.
It feels like you’re members of a dying sect that doesn’t have the strength to confront their beliefs to others beliefs but who try to convince themselves that they are still in the truth by refuging in a fortress and convince each other by repeating the gospel.
I’m the one whom you use to recite the gospel.
Nope. You came in here to, “tell us how it is”, and we refute you. In your absence we talk recipes, poetry, cats, puppies, language, weather, knitting, spinning, beer, whisk(e)y, cocktails, music, literature, gardening, history, blacksmithing, playing music, woodworking, insects, philosophy, law, civil rights, and a host of other things.
You, being a bit of a monomaniac, ignore them all.
But, on the upside, when you are upset your English gets a lot better, almost as if you weren’t contriving to make it look like something you didn’t speak well.
Pecunium — <3 years is <10% of 30 years, not <1% — you shifted the decimal at some point. Still a fucking travesty of justice though.
And Lama…I haven’t music sad enough for what happened to her…